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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 24 @ 3:01 AM ET
Anime and Ryan Gosling.

#14yearoldgirlbuzz.

- Unholy_Goalie



It's 3am. Youve been at this since 530 pm yesterday.

You're one sad (frank).
13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 24 @ 3:21 AM ET
They're significantly more proven options who at the same age as Sparks and Pickard were already starters in the NHL. As bad as they may seem, they've proven to be better than who the Leafs have.

They're likely just looking for a contract, period. 1 year deal at 1 or 2 million would hardly be a risk financially and Pickard would likely clear waivers and could be the Marlies starter if all else failed.

But again, Sparks being good in the AHL doesn't prove he's good for 25-30 solid starts in the NHL. If he was really that good, wouldn't he have stolen the back-up job last year? How much did he really improve?

- Unholy_Goalie

1 year is a pretty long time in terms of development. Especially considering they won the championship. Kapanen and Johnsson weren't ready at the beginning of last year but they will be this year, Sparks is in the same boat. Sure they got some games in but I'd imagine if Andersen and Mac got injured or faltered, Sparks would have been able to come in and do a decent job.

Eventually they have to give him a legit chance to grab the job, this is the year. If he yet again can't grab the job, he'll either get sent down or get a chance with another team, probably the latter. The main thing is, they obviously have a plan in place and they know the players better than anyone else, including us. If getting an older seasoned vet who is better than Mac was a priority, they would have done it by now.

Personally I wouldn't mind if they got Lehtonen or whoever for insurance, but in the end I don't think it really would affect the season in a significant way. There wouldn't be much of a difference between him and any other goalie currently in the system IMO.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Jul 24 @ 5:43 AM ET
As your NHL goalie expert, I have to weigh in on this discussion, so we can close this stupid thread, and get back to laughing about Ottawa Senators future

1. Sparks does indeed not look like a good candidate for the NHL backup job. He's a good AHL goalie, but his rebound control is awful.

2. You cannot suggest that it would be wise to get a proven NHL goalie as a backup, and at the same time advocate to bring in KHL mediocre goalies for that exact same job --> these guys have 0 NHL experience. [please try and think before you make an argument, mr x].

3. The Leafs have a guy that has proven NHL backup goalie experience. McElhinney will be part of the team's roster at start of the season.

4. What will probably happen, is that Leafs will put 3 or 4 of the goalies on the NHL 23man roster at start of season. Leafs have alot of options with players that won't have to go through waivers - so they definitely have this option. 2nd week of the season, they can then put Sparks / Pickard through waivers - less likely that any team will pick them up by then. What might happen as well, is an injury in preseason, with the 'conditioning stint' at AHL team for a few games.

At the end of the day, it is what it is - Leafs goaltending isn't great (both starter's position and backup options), but definitely good enough to challenge for a Stanley Cup.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 24 @ 6:36 AM ET
Same reason why just because you name drop Tim Thomas, doesn't mean Sparks will be that good either.

Point is, the Leafs need a reliable, proven back-up much more than they need to roll the dice on Sparks or Pickard. They have much more to lose than to gain.

- Unholy_Goalie

Holy (frank)

It's a ducking backup...they have 3 possible solutions to battle at camp. There's a very good chance one of them will turn out.

If not? Get one at the deadline for a 4th round pick. This is ridiculous
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 24 @ 6:37 AM ET
1 year is a pretty long time in terms of development. Especially considering they won the championship. Kapanen and Johnsson weren't ready at the beginning of last year but they will be this year, Sparks is in the same boat. Sure they got some games in but I'd imagine if Andersen and Mac got injured or faltered, Sparks would have been able to come in and do a decent job.

Eventually they have to give him a legit chance to grab the job, this is the year. If he yet again can't grab the job, he'll either get sent down or get a chance with another team, probably the latter. The main thing is, they obviously have a plan in place and they know the players better than anyone else, including us. If getting an older seasoned vet who is better than Mac was a priority, they would have done it by now.

Sp
Personally I wouldn't mind if they got Lehtonen or whoever for insurance, but in the end I don't think it really would affect the season in a significant way. There wouldn't be much of a difference between him and any other goalie currently in the system IMO.

- 13sundin13


Spend the money on D depth. If there are significant injury on D the Leafs have nothing that's guaranteed.

It's pretty simple to see where the Leafs will spend their money next
.OHOH.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.30.2017

Jul 24 @ 7:05 AM ET
I haven't back read yet, but I'm going to guess UGTARD went full "female genitaliay" about backup goalies?

I'll go skim though his POOP now.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 24 @ 7:16 AM ET
I haven't back read yet, but I'm going to guess UGTARD went full "female genitaliay" about backup goalies?

I'll go skim though his POOP now.

- .OHOH.

Dont its exhausting
.OHOH.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.30.2017

Jul 24 @ 7:37 AM ET
Dont its exhausting
- nbboy


(frank)ing waste of time.
Every single thing that ass hat posts.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 24 @ 7:47 AM ET
I haven't back read yet, but I'm going to guess UGTARD went full "female genitaliay" about backup goalies?

I'll go skim though his POOP now.

- .OHOH.


It was some of his best work.

.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 24 @ 7:49 AM ET
It was some of his best work the same poop he posts day in and day out, over and over and over, that nobody gives a flying (frank) about.
- Aetherial


Fixed!
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 24 @ 7:58 AM ET
Fixed!

- .HOHO.


I usually come in to work and backread every morning. This morning I started on page 8 or 9 or wherever it was and then just went to page 16.

Judging by the comments, the period in between was every bit as bad as I thought it might be.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Jul 24 @ 8:01 AM ET
I usually come in to work and backread every morning. This morning I started on page 8 or 9 or wherever it was and then just went to page 16.

Judging by the comments, the period in between was every bit as bad as I thought it might be.

- Aetherial


how did you fill the rest of the time?
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 24 @ 8:17 AM ET
how did you fill the rest of the time?
- plantheparade





Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 24 @ 8:33 AM ET
Holy (frank)

It's a ducking backup...they have 3 possible solutions to battle at camp. There's a very good chance one of them will turn out.

If not? Get one at the deadline for a 4th round pick. This is ridiculous

- Santo_44

Dont the leafs already have a proven backup? One that had great stats last year.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 24 @ 8:35 AM ET
So i see ug went fishing using old material and got a lot of bites.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 24 @ 8:39 AM ET
So i see ug went fishing using old material and got a lot of bites.
- Fakepartofme


bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 8:56 AM ET
(frank)ing waste of time.
Every single thing that ass hat posts.


- .OHOH.

Oh. high?
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jul 24 @ 8:57 AM ET
It's 3am. Youve been at this since 530 pm yesterday.

You're one sad (frank).

- systemtool


Night shift.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 8:57 AM ET
how did you fill the rest of the time?
- plantheparade

He spent the 2 minutes and masterbated...
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 24 @ 8:59 AM ET
Night shift.
- TrashPanda

so still gang related and multiple shooters?
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:01 AM ET
so still gang related and multiple shooters?
- drexel

UG will show you multiple shooters....
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 24 @ 9:13 AM ET
GUYS!

THEY FOUND BIXLL!



(We miss you bud!)
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:18 AM ET
15 page poopfest on a backup goalie...only UG.
Unholy_Troalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.04.2018

Jul 24 @ 9:21 AM ET
My starting lineup:

Earl-Vermette-Duclair

Karlsson-?

Lehtonen
(Mason)

Please add if I missed anyone.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 24 @ 9:22 AM ET
Went to pick up my puppy after two weeks away.

She has a lung infection (coughing sounds like my daughter playing the french horn). Needs to stay at the vet at least one more day.

Word of warning: don't even think about franking with me today. I am in a bad mood.
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