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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 3:50 PM ET
This makes me hope Hexy goes for it. I don’t want to see EK end up long term with a EC contender. Okay okay if he goes to Dallas or Vegas. I just don’t want EK to make our competitors better.

No matter when you think our cup window opens, 1-5 years, Tampa would be a competitor for the East.

- NC Flyers Fan


Remember, Karlsson has a list of teams he will go to. Hextall could give a Lindros package for EK, but if Philadelphia wasn't on his list doesn't matter what he offers.

Notice a pattern of teams mentioned so far...warm weather.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 23 @ 3:58 PM ET
Remember, Karlsson has a list of teams he will go to. Hextall could give a Lindros package for EK, but if Philadelphia wasn't on his list doesn't matter what he offers.

Notice a pattern of teams mentioned so far...warm weather.

- Glak18

he has a 10 team no trade list
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 23 @ 4:01 PM ET
Remember, Karlsson has a list of teams he will go to. Hextall could give a Lindros package for EK, but if Philadelphia wasn't on his list doesn't matter what he offers.

Notice a pattern of teams mentioned so far...warm weather.

- Glak18


Well Philly is warmer than Ottawa!.?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 4:03 PM ET
he has a 10 team no trade list
- YuenglingJagr


Ok...I got you now. So only 10 teams he WOULDN'T go to are submitted.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 4:08 PM ET
Well Philly is warmer than Ottawa!.?
- NC Flyers Fan


True, but another chip EK has besides eliminating 10 teams is his extension. Teams that are making offers want to know if EK will re-sign with them and how much. So if he or his agent really want to block something they could always state they have no interest in signing there after the year. So the team offers less for 1 year service of EK and Ottawa wants more value.

Everything in this situation favors EK, he will play where HE wants to play.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 23 @ 4:10 PM ET
True, but another chip EK has besides eliminating 10 teams is his extension. Teams that are making offers want to know if EK will re-sign with them and how much. So if he or his agent really want to block something they could always state they have no interest in signing there after the year. So the team offers less for 1 year service of EK and Ottawa wants more value.

Everything in this situation favors EK, he will play where HE wants to play.

- Glak18


So you don’t think he would want to play in Philly?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 23 @ 4:11 PM ET
True, but another chip EK has besides eliminating 10 teams is his extension. Teams that are making offers want to know if EK will re-sign with them and how much. So if he or his agent really want to block something they could always state they have no interest in signing there after the year. So the team offers less for 1 year service of EK and Ottawa wants more value.

Everything in this situation favors EK, he will play where HE wants to play.

- Glak18


If he really wanted to, he could come out publicly and name the only team or teams that he plans on signing with, which would really cripple Ottawa's return.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 23 @ 4:11 PM ET
So you don’t think he would want to play in Philly?
- NC Flyers Fan


If they'll pay him $13M for 7 years (8, if they trade for his rights), I'm sure he would.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 4:15 PM ET
So you don’t think he would want to play in Philly?
- NC Flyers Fan


I'm not EK, but if you are asking Glak...put me in coach I'm ready.

Getting EK on the Flyers sounds great, but to think about how much the Flyers would have to give up I don't think I would. If it was only about the cap hit then it might be a different story.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Jul 23 @ 4:23 PM ET
8 year olds dude.
- hereticpride
they got my dirty laundry...The Whites!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 4:25 PM ET
If he really wanted to, he could come out publicly and name the only team or teams that he plans on signing with, which would really cripple Ottawa's return.
- jmatchett383


Only thing I can 125% guarantee is Ron Hextall called Dorian to ask what he wanted for him, like the 29 other teams. I guess if Hextall liked it, a deal would of happened.

How awkward would it be if the Panthers were not on the no-trade list and they offered the best package?
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 23 @ 4:29 PM ET
Draft picks since 2014 that are looking at good upsides:

2014:
1st Sanheim
2nd NAK
3rd Friedman - depth
5th Lindblom

2015:
1st Provy
1st TK
3rd Sandstrom
4th Vorobuov
5th Kase - showing some promise

2016:
1st Rubstov
2nd Laberge - jury still out
2nd Hart
2nd Allison
3rd Twarynski - depth
4th Bunnaman - depth
5th Logberg
6th Laczynski - depth

2017
1st Patrick
1st Frost
2nd Ratcliffe
3rd Kirill U
4th Strome
4th Sushko
5th Cates

Plus this last year adding more to the pool. Lots going on since 2014 on adding to the Flyer's depth.

NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 23 @ 4:34 PM ET
I'm not EK, but if you are asking Glak...put me in coach I'm ready.

Getting EK on the Flyers sounds great, but to think about how much the Flyers would have to give up I don't think I would. If it was only about the cap hit then it might be a different story.

- Glak18


If EK would come play for the Flyers, the only roster players that would be on my no trade list would be G, Provorov and Ghost. The reason being that losing any of them, creates another hard to fill hole. Yes, I like/love many of the other players and prospects but they aren’t EK. The enormous depth in the forward line up can be compensated for with others. Some of the prospects might be great someday, but EK is a great fit now. With the farm system Hexy has built, I think he could also part with 2 first round picks.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 23 @ 4:36 PM ET
Draft picks since 2014 that are looking at good upsides:

2014:
1st Sanheim
2nd NAK
3rd Friedman - depth
5th Lindblom

2015:
1st Provy
1st TK
3rd Sandstrom
4th Vorobuov
5th Kase - showing some promise

2016:
1st Rubstov
2nd Laberge - jury still out
2nd Hart
2nd Allison
3rd Twarynski - depth
4th Bunnaman - depth
5th Logberg
6th Laczynski - depth

2017
1st Patrick
1st Frost
2nd Ratcliffe
3rd Kirill U
4th Strome
4th Sushko
5th Cates

Plus this last year adding more to the pool. Lots going on since 2014 on adding to the Flyer's depth.

- peesinwind

fwiw they drafted Cooper Marody too and he will probably make it to the NHL with Edmonton
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 4:40 PM ET
If EK would come play for the Flyers, the only roster players that would be on my no trade list would be G, Provorov and Ghost. The reason being that losing any of them, creates another hard to fill hole. Yes, I like/love many of the other players and prospects but they aren’t EK. The enormous depth in the forward line up can be compensated for with others. Some of the prospects might be great someday, but EK is a great fit now. With the farm system Hexy has built, I think he could also part with 2 first round picks.
- NC Flyers Fan


Well it's not really about who would be available, the question would be how many of the available would it take?

If I was Ottawa I want more than just 1 of the available, added junk and 2 1st. I want Patrick, Sanheim, a prospect and 2 1st. If I am Hextall I tell Ottawa to go suck a balloon and try to sign him next year.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 23 @ 4:49 PM ET
The Big Bang Theory is funnier than Seinfeld....GO!






- Glak18

The big bang theory is an atrocity
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 4:51 PM ET
Everyone...I just traded Jordan Weal to Toronto for Nikita Zaitsev. I need a second so I can work on a deal with Gudas and Lehtera.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 23 @ 4:51 PM ET
Fine! I will take my 30 minute punishment listening to JoeG tell the story about when they invented the puck.
- Glak18

And you deserve every second of it
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 23 @ 4:51 PM ET
Well it's not really about who would be available, the question would be how many of the available would it take?

If I was Ottawa I want more than just 1 of the available, added junk and 2 1st. I want Patrick, Sanheim, a prospect and 2 1st. If I am Hextall I tell Ottawa to go suck a balloon and try to sign him next year.

- Glak18


Your scenario is the perfect example: yes, I’d be sad to lose Patrick (I think he is going to be great), but move G back to center and the hole is plugged until the next prospect arrives. Think just how great EK would make the D an the PP.

Of course, I would be even more excited if we signed him next year without having to give up anyone.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 4:53 PM ET
Your scenario is the perfect example: yes, I’d be sad to lose Patrick (I think he is going to be great), but move G back to center and the hole is plugged until the next prospect arrives. Think just how great EK would make the D an the PP.

Of course, I would be even more excited if we signed him next year without having to give up anyone.

- NC Flyers Fan


Well I didn't like my trade proposal, I even punched myself in the belly for typing it.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 23 @ 5:11 PM ET
Everyone...I just traded Jordan Weal to Toronto for Nikita Zaitsev. I need a second so I can work on a deal with Gudas and Lehtera.
- Glak18


Did Toronto retain salary?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 23 @ 5:32 PM ET
Your scenario is the perfect example: yes, I’d be sad to lose Patrick (I think he is going to be great), but move G back to center and the hole is plugged until the next prospect arrives. Think just how great EK would make the D an the PP.

Of course, I would be even more excited if we signed him next year without having to give up anyone.

- NC Flyers Fan


I'd pass. I'd rather bank the future on Patrick becoming a #1 center and defense prospects such as Sanheim and Myers becoming top quality defenseman.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 23 @ 5:41 PM ET
I think it's quiet because talks are in a stalemate. People know EK wants out and can choose his destination, Ottawa wants the moon for him especially within the conference.

EK wants Tampa, his wife wants Tampa and he has pirate facial hair. EK will be in Tampa either this season or at the latest next. Other teams mentioned in "rumors" is just Ottawa trying to push EK because they are not getting what they want from Yzerman.

- Glak18



dude you have been on a comic roll.....
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 5:44 PM ET
Did Toronto retain salary?
- Just5


Noooooooooo

I got too excited when he said yes to Weal so fast. Don't worry I will flip him Gudas because they need a RHD now.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 23 @ 5:50 PM ET
dude you have been on a comic roll.....
- MBFlyerfan


At least 1 person appreciates my jokes because Leaf Nation does not.
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