That may be in some incidents but the availability of guns and the types are much more relevant factors.

Most non hunting rifles (usually assault style weapons) and all hand guns are classified as restricted which means you need to take additional training and acquire a different license to obtain them and those guns are registered. Additionally the magazine capacity for semi automatic centre fire rifles is capped at 5 rounds and handguns at 10. All fully automatic firearms are entirely prohibited.
- BlueBallz

Yep..My brother has one..5 shot semi auto assault rifle..Police know where it's stored in his home, can come to his home and request inspection at any time.. He has to get a permit to take it to the range + notify them when it's returned to home..Restrictions make it almost not worth owning..

That said criminals dont follow rules/restrictions..Big diff in Canada is that there are not a whole lot of these types of guns in country..

No.
- daeth

Right, there was a single shooter which was confirmed. There is even a video of him shooting into a shop. Well find out more today im sure. At least he didnt have an automatic weapon. Im interested to know if his firearm was illegally obtained.

Right, there was a single shooter which was confirmed. There is even a video of him shooting into a shop. Well find out more today im sure. At least he didnt have an automatic weapon. Im interested to know if his firearm was illegally obtained.
- Archaic

Guaranteed.

Bullpoop - this has all of the hallmarks of a gang related shooting. There were also minimum 14 shots, which indicates to me multiple shooters.

The investigators aren't telling us anything, so we don't know what they're thinking.
- TrashPanda

What’s the point of speculating?

What’s the point of speculating?
- ClarksonDavid

We do that here, all day every day. It's almost as if that's what HB is for.

We do that here, all day every day. It's almost as if that's what HB is for.
- TrashPanda

pretty much...

We do that here, all day every day. It's almost as if that's what HB is for.
- TrashPanda

Why not just wait til things are confirmed before assuming what happened, makes no sense to speculate on things like that.

Bullpoop - this has all of the hallmarks of a gang related shooting. There were also minimum 14 shots, which indicates to me multiple shooters.

The investigators aren't telling us anything, so we don't know what they're thinking.
- TrashPanda

Firing into restaurants is definitely not the hallmark of a gang shooting. I can fire 14 rounds in less than 10 seconds easily using a semi automatic pistol including a reload if I'm not taking the time to really line up my sights. That is most definitely not an indication of multiple shooters and in fact it has already been confirmed by police that it was a single shooter.

Sorry man, but you're way out of your element here making these assumptions. Take it from a guy that has put literally thousands of rounds down range with a range of firearms as a former army reservist and tactical officer as well as a new hunter.

Bullpoop - this has all of the hallmarks of a gang related shooting. There were also minimum 14 shots, which indicates to me multiple shooters.

The investigators aren't telling us anything, so we don't know what they're thinking.
- TrashPanda

yet you think its gang related and multiple shooters....

Firing into restaurants is definitely not the hallmark of a gang shooting. I can fire 14 rounds in less than 10 seconds easily using a semi automatic pistol including a reload if I'm not taking the time to really line up my sights. That is most definitely not an indication of multiple shooters and in fact it has already been confirmed by police that it was a single shooter.

Sorry man, but you're way out of your element here making these assumptions. Take it from a guy that has put literally thousands of rounds down range with a range of firearms as a former army reservist and tactical officer as well as a new hunter.
- BlueBallz

If you knew more about me you wouldn't say that, but some things I'm not going to share on a public forum.

yet you think its gang related and multiple shooters....
- drexel

I might be wrong, but I don't think so.

If you knew more about me you wouldn't say that, but some things I'm not going to share on a public forum.
- TrashPanda

you have no (frank)ing clue what you're talking about.

I might be wrong, but I don't think so.
- TrashPanda

Thanks Eklund.

you see there's this mat with a bunch of conclusions on it...that you jump to

That may be in some incidents but the availability of guns and the types are much more relevant factors.

Most non hunting rifles (usually assault style weapons) and all hand guns are classified as restricted which means you need to take additional training and acquire a different license to obtain them and those guns are registered. Additionally the magazine capacity for semi automatic centre fire rifles is capped at 5 rounds and handguns at 10. All fully automatic firearms are entirely prohibited.
- BlueBallz

I am not really familiar with gun laws, but I believe automatic weapons are prohibited as well as most semi-automatic assault weapons.

We do have guns here, but just, in general, I would guess we have far less guns per capita.
- Aetherial

Interesting. I know gun control is a touchy subject in the US, as I own many myself even automatic. Although I still believe the biggest issue here is not the gun itself, but the person using it. I remember writing a paper based off patterns I noticed at the time in most of the cases. I predicted that even with a full out right ban or even restrictions on certain types, that explosives would play a bigger part in the future. I personally feel it is a lot easier to manufacture explosives then it is to obtain a restrictive firearm and still have devastating affects.

Even if you look around the world the same patterns are there. Take London, England for example. I believe sometime in 2017 they surpassed NYC in violent crimes where most murders took place using knives.

My question has always been why and what would lead a person to commit these planned and horrific acts? I kind of blame the media because they don't talk about the facts of the case which causes others to use simple reasoning like "they are just losers or a piece of poop". Which can be a valid reason, but no one discusses and releases the exact reason why the act was done and it causes speculation. One of the most common factors in all serial killings in schools in the US is caused by bullying of some sort. I am not referring to name calling or just making fun, but physical abuse, out casting and actions that drastically dictates another persons life. Another common factor in all cases, the instigators always become the victims and those people never take accountability for their actions. I don't think it's a gun issue, I think it's a respect issue for another life.

Actually, we do. The AR-15 as commonly sold in the US is a 'prohibited' weapon here.
- TrashPanda

If what you mean by commonly sold means equipped with a fire selector that includes fully auto (and that would vary state by state) then you are correct. But the AR-15 with only semi automatic capability is restricted not prohibited and because it uses centre fire cartridges the magazine capacity is limited to 5 rounds.

http://www.firearms-safet...d-and-prohibited-firearms

Guaranteed.
- TrashPanda

Not guaranteed.

Without making assumptions, it is entirely possible that this guy was able to get all the background checks he needed to get his PAL (posession acquisition license) years and years ago, had the gun for any length of time leading up to yesterday then for whatever reason went off last night.

We do that here, all day every day. It's almost as if that's what HB is for.
- TrashPanda

I'll agree on this, but only related to hockey stuff like Tavares and Matthews totally not being able to get along because of egos and that we'll have to ship out Gardiner for a conditional 7th through a sign and trade.

I'll agree on this, but only related to hockey stuff like Tavares and Matthews totally not being able to get along because of egos and that we'll have to ship out Gardiner for a conditional 7th through a sign and trade.
- BlueBallz

Except those are not speculations.

They're the truth.

I am not really familiar with gun laws, but I believe automatic weapons are prohibited as well as most semi-automatic assault weapons.

We do have guns here, but just, in general, I would guess we have far less guns per capita.
- Aetherial

Semi-Auto assault rifles purchased pre-regulations were grandfathered in with a magazine pin for 3 bullets which is mandatory. Any unpinned magazines can be seized and your gun license revoked. Handguns were also grandfathered in with similar pinned magazines.

As a person with both it essentially makes them useless. Every now and again I take the FN out for a hunt, but it's more a prop than useful when you have a .22 or similar for hunting.

Bullpoop - this has all of the hallmarks of a gang related shooting. There were also minimum 14 shots, which indicates to me multiple shooters.

The investigators aren't telling us anything, so we don't know what they're thinking.
- TrashPanda

Delete your account vinegar tits

Except those are not speculations.

They're the truth.
- Scabeh

How stupid do you think Tavares feels that he signed here without even considering he might not be top Banana with Matthews also in Toronto? What an idiot.

Not guaranteed.

Without making assumptions, it is entirely possible that this guy was able to get all the background checks he needed to get his PAL (posession acquisition license) years and years ago, had the gun for any length of time leading up to yesterday then for whatever reason went off last night.
- BlueBallz

Agreed and another factor overlooked a lot. Limiting people with a criminal past can only be so helpful when you realize a lot of shootings are done by people with zero history to flag them.

How stupid do you think Tavares feels that he signed here without even considering he might not be top Banana with Matthews also in Toronto? What and idiot.
- ClarksonDavid

fixed

Except those are not speculations.

They're the truth.
- Scabeh