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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 23 @ 6:37 PM ET
Gerbe...

Also it's been reported that the Canadiens won't even offer him a contract

http://www.sportingnews.c...m9436upec0iw1mi37rhpml6p8

So where is this $8 million coming from?

- Stripes77


actually it was Bob McKenzie number 1 reason why he wasn't moved because of contract negotiations
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 23 @ 6:38 PM ET
I wasn’t trolling at all
U just took it that way

If i was taking a shot at you,
I’d have been much more of a d!ck

Sorry... i guess i can’t joke with you
Great talk
Have a good day

- jdfitz77


It was 100% a troll, otherwise, why say it?

You're a much worse troll than Beady, he at least admits it.

Vaya con dios.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 23 @ 6:38 PM ET
This is probably a crazy idea, but hear me out.

Idk what the Wild value Parise at, but:

Rather than Sign Pacioretty for let's call it 7x7 (his rumored price), would you move Okposo, Bailey/Girgensons and maybe a 3rd for Parise? Parise is at 7.5

The wild need to clear cap space if they want Zucker. Rather than adding a +30 player to Okposo in Pacioretty, you're swapping one for one. I know Parise has 2 more years than Okposo, but at 5 or 7 years, it's not a huge difference imo, especially considering Parise has a higher goal scoring ceiling still. Parise adds speed and a needed LW, and also adds some character.


Parise-Eichel-Reinhart
Sheary-Mitts-Thompson
Erod-Berglund-Baptiste
Wilson-Sobotka-Pominville

Not bad. If there are amnesty buyouts in the next CBA, you're probably buying out Okposo anyway, and the short-term benefit of Parise is higher imo

- jcragcrumple


Interesting
But why is Parise waiving his NTC?
And why does Minny move out his salary, just to take Okposo back?
Doesn’t save them much Cap space
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 23 @ 6:39 PM ET
It was 100% a troll, otherwise, why say it?

You're a much worse troll than Beady, he at least admits it.

Vaya con dios.

- Wetbandit1


Bc i didn’t think you’d be so sensitive about it

Last time

IM SORRY I MADE A JOKE
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 23 @ 6:41 PM ET
Gerbe...

Also it's been reported that the Canadiens won't even offer him a contract

http://www.sportingnews.c...m9436upec0iw1mi37rhpml6p8

So where is this $8 million coming from?

- Stripes77


But if they're going to trade him why would they bother with extension negotiations? It's stupid to put that out there, because you lose leverage that way. Kind of like how Ottawa is totally fine hanging on to Karlsson, but no one ever accused Bergevin of being a genius.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 23 @ 6:42 PM ET
Interesting
But why is Parise waiving his NTC?
And why does Minny move out his salary, just to take Okposo back?
Doesn’t save them much Cap space

- jdfitz77


No answer to why he would waive other than a change of scenery, but as to the second question, saving $1.5 against the cap for 7 years would help, especially in the short term with Zucker.

In the long term, it would be easier for them to retain $1.5 on Okposo and move him (4.5m in cap savings there), in addition to the $1.5 savings over Parise. If Okposo has a decent year, they could retain a modest amount of cash and free up $6m fairly easily
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 23 @ 6:43 PM ET
It was 100% a troll, otherwise, why say it?

You're a much worse troll than Beady, he at least admits it.

Vaya con dios.

- Wetbandit1


Why you all grumpy today ...

Just watch the Aquaman trailer and all will be good
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 23 @ 6:44 PM ET
Candy Free
- SABRES 89

HOOKERS AND BLOW
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 23 @ 6:44 PM ET
Why you all grumpy today ...

Just watch the new Godzilla trailer and all will be good

- gerbe75pts

fixed
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 23 @ 6:45 PM ET
Again you're the one proposing these maybe questions

What if he likes it here?

What if he likes playing with Jack?

What if the Sabres plan is something he gets behind?

What if he likes the city like almost every other player that has played here and wants to stay here?

Just because a player could wait to see what else is out there doesn't mean he will.

- Stripes77


A buddy of mine was hanging out with O’Reilly a week or so ago
ROR said he’s not gonna sell his house here
At least not now
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 23 @ 6:47 PM ET
No answer to why he would waive other than a change of scenery, but as to the second question, saving $1.5 against the cap for 7 years would help, especially in the short term with Zucker.

In the long term, it would be easier for them to retain $1.5 on Okposo and move him (4.5m in cap savings there), in addition to the $1.5 savings over Parise. If Okposo has a decent year, they could retain a modest amount of cash and free up $6m fairly easily

- jcragcrumple


I’d think they’d at least try to make more of a savings than the 1.5mil though
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 23 @ 6:49 PM ET
fixed
- homiedclown


Sorry Aquaman is going to be the best movie of the year

And will make more money than infinity war
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 23 @ 6:49 PM ET
I’d think they’d at least try to make more of a savings than the 1.5mil though
- jdfitz77


It's an incremental savings plan for them. Moving on from Parise with no salary retained would be a huge win (if they want to move him). Phaneuf had salary retained, and Gaborik went along with it.

No one is going to take on Parise without shedding salary in the process
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 23 @ 6:50 PM ET
HOOKERS AND BLOW
- homiedclown

More Cowbell
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 23 @ 6:54 PM ET
You're a moron.
- Wetbandit1

and you say I'm froggy
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 23 @ 6:54 PM ET
It's an incremental savings plan for them. Moving on from Parise with no salary retained would be a huge win (if they want to move him). Phaneuf had salary retained, and Gaborik went along with it.

No one is going to take on Parise without shedding salary in the process

- jcragcrumple


Probably true
But maybe they just move a lesser contract to get Cap room
1.5 now, and maybe more at some point is risky
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 23 @ 6:56 PM ET
This is probably a crazy idea, but hear me out.

Idk what the Wild value Parise at, but:

Rather than Sign Pacioretty for let's call it 7x7 (his rumored price), would you move Okposo, Bailey/Girgensons and maybe a 3rd for Parise? Parise is at 7.5

The wild need to clear cap space if they want Zucker. Rather than adding a +30 player to Okposo in Pacioretty, you're swapping one for one. I know Parise has 2 more years than Okposo, but at 5 or 7 years, it's not a huge difference imo, especially considering Parise has a higher goal scoring ceiling still. Parise adds speed and a needed LW, and also adds some character.


Parise-Eichel-Reinhart
Sheary-Mitts-Thompson
Erod-Berglund-Baptiste
Wilson-Sobotka-Pominville

Not bad. If there are amnesty buyouts in the next CBA, you're probably buying out Okposo anyway, and the short-term benefit of Parise is higher imo

- jcragcrumple

This is the best proposal I have seen in months
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 23 @ 6:56 PM ET
Sorry Aquaman is going to be the best movie of the year

And will make more money than infinity war

- gerbe75pts



it's always the opposite of what you think when it comes to movies


wonder woman is going to beat batman vs superman


justice league is going to be so good

suicide squad is going to be so good




stick to hockey prospects padawan
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 23 @ 6:58 PM ET
More Cowbell
- SABRES 89

not sure if you saw this gem

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=153916&page=28
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 23 @ 6:59 PM ET
Sorry Aquaman is going to be the best movie of the year

And will make more money than infinity war

- gerbe75pts



SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 23 @ 6:59 PM ET
not sure if you saw this gem

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=153916&page=28

- homiedclown

Yea I seen it
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 23 @ 7:00 PM ET
Yea I seen it
- SABRES 89

nothing?


SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 23 @ 7:01 PM ET
nothing?



- homiedclown

I approve
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 23 @ 7:02 PM ET

- Wetbandit1

infinity war is the 4th highest grossing film ever


over 2 bil

I would gladly take any bet even up on guppyman vs infinity war
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 23 @ 7:03 PM ET
I approve
- SABRES 89

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