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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jul 21 @ 5:54 PM ET
Daydream over. Sad.
- BlueBallz



BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jul 21 @ 5:57 PM ET



- dmnted

Now I want ribs.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jul 21 @ 6:02 PM ET
Now I want ribs.
- BlueBallz


Coated with chicken wings?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 21 @ 6:06 PM ET
don't assume that adding a $6M salary on defense will mess the Leafs cap situation.

there's so many hypothetical situations here...

you sound like UG ... Leafs can't afford such and such...

but Tampa somehow magically can.


There is a huge difference.

#1 Half the D on Tampa is UFA\RFA next season. There is 13 mill there.

#2 If TB was to add Karlsson, Sergachev would likely go the other way so no need to worry about that RFA

#3 TB is looking to Offload TJ, Killhorn and Callahan - That is another 15 mill

#4 Leafs as of now have 14 mill in cap space, that goes to 22 mill next season. They still have to sign the likes of Nylander(This season), Marner, Kapanen and Matthews + 4 Defencemen(That includes Gardiner), a back up goalie and 3 additional forwards all next year. Right now Nylander, Marner and Matthews could get 6-8 mill each. That is more than the cap space available and that number will increase if they have good years. Kapanen too.

To have a chance at keeping all these guys, they will need to find takers for Marleau, Horton and maybe even Kadri.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 21 @ 6:06 PM ET
underhill will fix that
- dmnted

Dongull_Trump
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Soon to be prison.
Joined: 03.24.2018

Jul 21 @ 6:08 PM ET

- underhill14



BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jul 21 @ 6:11 PM ET
Coated with chicken wings?
- TrashPanda

Yes. And on a bed of burritos.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jul 21 @ 6:14 PM ET
Yes. And on a bed of burritos.
- BlueBallz


Amazing!

BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jul 21 @ 6:16 PM ET
Amazing!


- TrashPanda

gamedaytix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 21 @ 6:17 PM ET
Having just read the blog I must say that UG is right. Leafs absolutely need to be in on Karlsson. Gardiner, Liligren/Sandin or 2019 first, Nylander.
Dongull_Trump
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Soon to be prison.
Joined: 03.24.2018

Jul 21 @ 6:26 PM ET
Having just read the blog I must say that UG is right. Leafs absolutely need to be in on Karlsson. Gardiner, Liligren/Sandin or 2019 first, Nylander.
- gamedaytix



YzermanTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Reveen is JB’s salad tosser
Joined: 08.21.2013

Jul 21 @ 6:27 PM ET
Amazing!


- TrashPanda

Just makes me think of the History Channel guy saying aliens.
gamedaytix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 21 @ 6:28 PM ET

- Dongull_Trump

Nice hair.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 21 @ 6:28 PM ET
Hyman(2.25), Matthews (11), Nylander (7)
Marleau (6.25), Tavares (11), Marner (8)
Kapanen(863k), Kadri (4.5), Brown (2.1)
Leivo (925k), Jooris (925k), Johnsson (787k)

Rielly (5), #2 (7)
Gardiner (4), Zaitsev (4.5)
Dermott (863k), Hainsey(3)

Andersen (5)
McIll (850k)

Phil Kessel (1.2)

Total Cap: $87 M

If we can string things along for a couple years with a bridge deal here or there and ELCs while the Cap goes up, we will be fine. But we are a little limited on the #2 we could get.

(Obviously Gardiner and RFAs are not factor into this, just a quick overview.)

Smarter guys than me, Prindham(?), are working on this for the Leafs. I'm sure they have a well scoped out plan.




dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jul 21 @ 6:32 PM ET
Coated with chicken wings?
- TrashPanda



being wash down with some of this


sorry Bruce
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jul 21 @ 6:32 PM ET
Just makes me think of the History Channel guy saying aliens.
- YzermanTheMan


I'm not saying you're going to give me burritos, but give me burritos.
cdiggz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: moncton, NB
Joined: 07.14.2018

Jul 21 @ 6:35 PM ET
liljegren or dermott? no thanks then
Dongull_Trump
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Soon to be prison.
Joined: 03.24.2018

Jul 21 @ 6:42 PM ET
Nice hair.
- gamedaytix



100% real. Believe me.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 21 @ 6:50 PM ET
Tavares and Marner will both get over 90 points this season.
So that will end that discussion quickly.

Trouba and Dumba are both overvalued.
Dumba is a poor man's Dion Phaneuf (yes, it's possible!!).

Leafs will have the puck 70% of game - which means significant less time in d-zone as well. Leafs need an upgrade on backup goalie (a consitent guy that can play 25-30games) over an upgrade on D imo.

- plantheparade

Check the stats: MakeASavey was better than Andersen.

Nope, I am not joking.
gamedaytix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 21 @ 6:51 PM ET
100% real. Believe me.
- Dongull_Trump[/quote

Looks almost as good as Karlsson's.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jul 21 @ 7:04 PM ET
Gardiner, zietsev and kapanen

For

Trouba and Meyers

- BrainSap

walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 21 @ 7:22 PM ET
There is a huge difference.

#1 Half the D on Tampa is UFA\RFA next season. There is 13 mill there.

#2 If TB was to add Karlsson, Sergachev would likely go the other way so no need to worry about that RFA

#3 TB is looking to Offload TJ, Killhorn and Callahan - That is another 15 mill

#4 Leafs as of now have 14 mill in cap space, that goes to 22 mill next season. They still have to sign the likes of Nylander(This season), Marner, Kapanen and Matthews + 4 Defencemen(That includes Gardiner), a back up goalie and 3 additional forwards all next year. Right now Nylander, Marner and Matthews could get 6-8 mill each. That is more than the cap space available and that number will increase if they have good years. Kapanen too.

To have a chance at keeping all these guys, they will need to find takers for Marleau, Horton and maybe even Kadri.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

That's not true. They won't need to trade anyone.

Unless you mean everyone they have now plus adding a 6 mil defensemen on top of Gerdener. But I doubt that's their plan.
mel_vin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jul 21 @ 7:32 PM ET
Hyman(2.25), Matthews (11), Nylander (7)
Marleau (6.25), Tavares (11), Marner (8)
Kapanen(863k), Kadri (4.5), Brown (2.1)
Leivo (925k), Jooris (925k), Johnsson (787k)

Rielly (5), #2 (7)
Gardiner (4), Zaitsev (4.5)
Dermott (863k), Hainsey(3)

Andersen (5)
McIll (850k)

Phil Kessel (1.2)

Total Cap: $87 M

If we can string things along for a couple years with a bridge deal here or there and ELCs while the Cap goes up, we will be fine. But we are a little limited on the #2 we could get.

(Obviously Gardiner and RFAs are not factor into this, just a quick overview.)

Smarter guys than me, Prindham(?), are working on this for the Leafs. I'm sure they have a well scoped out plan.

- underhill14


Couple of assumptions there. What does AM get? He really hasnt finished a full 2 seasons in the NHL, but yeah you pay the kid and I would think its 10-11.

Same with Willy and Mitchy. Would be awesome if they were had for 6 and 7 respesctively. That would save 2 mil on the cap alone...If we were in a pinch, couldnt we trade the "balace owing" on the Kessel trade to a team needing to make the cap floor?...also how much longer on that hosing is left? That could be potentially 3 mil from that 87 to 84.

If anyone can do it, its the whiz kid dubas.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 21 @ 7:55 PM ET
Hyman(2.25), Matthews (11), Nylander (7)
Marleau (6.25), Tavares (11), Marner (8)
Kapanen(863k), Kadri (4.5), Brown (2.1)
Leivo (925k), Jooris (925k), Johnsson (787k)

Rielly (5), #2 (7)
Gardiner (4), Zaitsev (4.5)
Dermott (863k), Hainsey(3)

Andersen (5)
McIll (850k)

Phil Kessel (1.2)

Total Cap: $87 M

If we can string things along for a couple years with a bridge deal here or there and ELCs while the Cap goes up, we will be fine. But we are a little limited on the #2 we could get.

(Obviously Gardiner and RFAs are not factor into this, just a quick overview.)

Smarter guys than me, Prindham(?), are working on this for the Leafs. I'm sure they have a well scoped out plan.

- underhill14

Isn't the cap $79.5M right now? If the cap goes up 8.5M in one season that would really help us.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 21 @ 7:56 PM ET
Couple of assumptions there. What does AM get? He really hasnt finished a full 2 seasons in the NHL, but yeah you pay the kid and I would think its 10-11.

Same with Willy and Mitchy. Would be awesome if they were had for 6 and 7 respesctively. That would save 2 mil on the cap alone...If we were in a pinch, couldnt we trade the "balace owing" on the Kessel trade to a team needing to make the cap floor?...also how much longer on that hosing is left? That could be potentially 3 mil from that 87 to 84.

If anyone can do it, its the whiz kid dubas.

- mel_vin

Gardiner is at 4M now, is he really going to re-sign at the same number?
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