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winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 20 @ 12:52 PM ET
Marleau-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Kadri-Brown
Ennis-Jooris-Kapanen

Rielly-Trouba
Dermott-Zaitsev
Gardiner-Hainsey
Carrick

Trouba for Grundstrom, One of the young swedish d-men, 1st

- TheMussel


Would love this lineup, but doubt that Grudstrom/Borgman/1st gets it done, Boston would offer more IMO
hawk35
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Jul 20 @ 12:55 PM ET
Connor scored 30 goals last year as well, he wont be cheap next year either.
I sadly think we are headed for a trade with Trouba, but am holding out hope we get this deal signed. It's ok to call chevy cheap, but with the cap, its better to be cheap than over spend.
Wheeler's next deal is the one that scares me, I don't agree with handing out long term deals to guys his age, hope it gets done at 3-4 years, no more.

- Ross77


WHEELER WILL BE UNRESTRICTED...AND WHAT???...30-31-32 YRS OLD??? ...Oops, damn Cap-lock....
Anyway, It will be his BIG payday. He wil NOT sign a 3-4 year deal. He will want the maximum 8 year deal from the Jets...or 7 years elsewhere....and if he has a year like last year, he will command 7-8-9 million per year on it. He will be hard to sign. It is a tough pill to swallow. But, he WILL be going BIG and LONG TERM....make no mistake about that!!!
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
Trouba to the Leafs
- PatC80

That would cost a lot.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
Marleau-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Kadri-Brown
Ennis-Jooris-Kapanen

Rielly-Trouba
Dermott-Zaitsev
Gardiner-Hainsey
Carrick

Trouba for Grundstrom, One of the young swedish d-men, 1st

- TheMussel

Ya......I dont think the Jets even look at that offer.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
Would love this lineup, but doubt that Grudstrom/Borgman/1st gets it done, Boston would offer more IMO
- winsix

based on that offer...almost any team could offer more.
winsix
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Jul 20 @ 1:06 PM ET
That would cost a lot.
- Fakepartofme


That plus the Jets want to win now. Not likely to trade Trouba for futures at this point.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 20 @ 1:07 PM ET
That plus the Jets want to win now. Not likely to trade Trouba for futures at this point.
- winsix

Agreed.
I see they may move Myers at the deadline...but other than that, why make drastic changes.
winsix
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Jul 20 @ 1:11 PM ET
Agreed.
I see they may move Myers at the deadline...but other than that, why make drastic changes.

- Fakepartofme


I don't see any team in the west in a better spot, including Nashville. And I agree on Myers being moved - he's not likely to get a monster return though.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 20 @ 1:14 PM ET
based on that offer...almost any team could offer more.
- Fakepartofme


i think it would have to loljegren, not borgman.
BetterCallSaul
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Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 20 @ 1:15 PM ET
A player like Trouba is probably the missing piece for this team. I don't know what the Jets would want from Toronto, but it would probably be quite a bit.
winsix
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Jul 20 @ 1:18 PM ET
i think it would have to loljegren, not borgman.
- Tumbleweed


I would say no from this end. Liljegren is controllable for a long time. Salary does come into the equation and having a few really good players on entry level deals makes a difference on better teams. And from the Jets perspective, doubt they move Trouba for any package that doesn't help their defense now.
underhill14
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Jul 20 @ 1:25 PM ET
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Kadri-Brown
Leivo-Jooris-Kapanen

Rielly-Myers
Dermott-Zaitsev
Gardiner-Hainsey
Carrick

Trouba for Grundstrom, One of the young swedish d-men, 1st

- TheMussel


Fixed.

If any D leaves Winnipeg, it's Myers. No way they move Trouba unless the return is big and do we really want to give that up?

Take Myers, maybe he resigns, maybe he doesn't, we wouldn't lose as much in that trade.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
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Jul 20 @ 1:25 PM ET
A player like Trouba is probably the missing piece for this team. I don't know what the Jets would want from Toronto, but it would probably be quite a bit.
- BetterCallSaul


It would probably have to include Gardiner which would just shuffle our problems IMO.

Be nice if we could get him for Brown / Kap / Dermott and picks or whatever..but I don't think that would get him.
winsix
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Jul 20 @ 1:28 PM ET
Fixed.

If any D leaves Winnipeg, it's Myers. No way they move Trouba unless the return is big and do we really want to give that up?

Take Myers, maybe he resigns, maybe he doesn't, we wouldn't lose as much in that trade.

- underhill14


Agreed
BetterCallSaul
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Jul 20 @ 1:38 PM ET
It would probably have to include Gardiner which would just shuffle our problems IMO.

Be nice if we could get him for Brown / Kap / Dermott and picks or whatever..but I don't think that would get him.

- Garnie

Almost certainly would have to include Gardiner. Probably a conditional pick based on stats/resigning.
winsix
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Jul 20 @ 1:39 PM ET
It would probably have to include Gardiner which would just shuffle our problems IMO.

Be nice if we could get him for Brown / Kap / Dermott and picks or whatever..but I don't think that would get him.

- Garnie


Wouldn't be a good move for the Leafs. All three of those players are on the current lineup. Hurts depth for sure. And besides that, Canes have extra d-men - and have a serious boner for Kap. Wild are shopping Spurgeon, so depleting the lineup to get Trouba - who will be a UFA in 2 years not ideal.

One of Myers, Spurgeon or Pesce would be great if the price is reasonable.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 20 @ 1:47 PM ET
Marleau-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Kadri-Brown
Ennis-Jooris-Kapanen

Rielly-Trouba
Dermott-Zaitsev
Gardiner-Hainsey
Carrick

Trouba for Grundstrom, One of the young swedish d-men, 1st

- TheMussel

Interesting proposal.. Trouba for Grundstrom, Liljegrin and a 1st? Or do you mean Rosen and not Liljegren?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 20 @ 1:48 PM ET
Wouldn't be a good move for the Leafs. All three of those players are on the current lineup. Hurts depth for sure. And besides that, Canes have extra d-men - and have a serious boner for Kap. Wild are shopping Spurgeon, so depleting the lineup to get Trouba - who will be a UFA in 2 years not ideal.

One of Myers, Spurgeon or Pesce would be great if the price is reasonable.

- winsix


That trade would be with Trouba signed...those were just guys who we could afford...I wasn't really meaning all of them...even though it may cost us almost that.

I'm not a fan of Gardiner but I don't think we can include him in a trade for another D...I realize that he does bring something....not as much as Corsi suggests but still something more then Z/Dermott/LOlgren/Carrick etc.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
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Jul 20 @ 1:49 PM ET
Wouldn't be a good move for the Leafs. All three of those players are on the current lineup. Hurts depth for sure. And besides that, Canes have extra d-men - and have a serious boner for Kap. Wild are shopping Spurgeon, so depleting the lineup to get Trouba - who will be a UFA in 2 years not ideal.

One of Myers, Spurgeon or Pesce would be great if the price is reasonable.

- winsix



Oh, please, please, please be him..

Brett Pesce..
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
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Jul 20 @ 1:51 PM ET
Almost certainly would have to include Gardiner. Probably a conditional pick based on stats/resigning.
- BetterCallSaul


Then again, if Gards wants a raise...not sure even Winn would want him.

*I'm so confused*
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
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Jul 20 @ 1:56 PM ET
Then again, if Gards wants a raise...not sure even Winn would want him.

*I'm so confused*

- Garnie


Gardiner is a different type of defender, in the sense that Gardiner doesn't really defend..
Trouba can play defense.. If the Jets want an offensively gifted D-Man for Trouba.. I think both teams would win the trade.

Trading Gardiner would almost certainly mean that Dermott would get more ice time
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jul 20 @ 1:59 PM ET
That trade would be with Trouba signed...those were just guys who we could afford...I wasn't really meaning all of them...even though it may cost us almost that.

I'm not a fan of Gardiner but I don't think we can include him in a trade for another D...I realize that he does bring something....not as much as Corsi suggests but still something more then Z/Dermott/LOlgren/Carrick etc.

- Garnie


I think if Gardiner were apart of the trade, the Jets as well would need a new deal done before hand. Although our best d prospects right now are all LH so its not a great fit. as for the forwards, nothing against them but the Jets already have Petan, Vessalaine, Appleton ( last years Rookie of the year in the AHL ) Lemieux, and others all currently outside the lineup fighting to get in. I am holding up hope for a long term deal, trading Trouba and re signing Myers is a big mistake. I get that we may not have a choice though if Trouba wont sign here
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jul 20 @ 2:05 PM ET
WHEELER WILL BE UNRESTRICTED...AND WHAT???...30-31-32 YRS OLD??? ...Oops, damn Cap-lock....
Anyway, It will be his BIG payday. He wil NOT sign a 3-4 year deal. He will want the maximum 8 year deal from the Jets...or 7 years elsewhere....and if he has a year like last year, he will command 7-8-9 million per year on it. He will be hard to sign. It is a tough pill to swallow. But, he WILL be going BIG and LONG TERM....make no mistake about that!!!

- hawk35

I agree with you, but I'm not sure i'd be the guy giving him that deal.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 20 @ 2:11 PM ET
I think if Gardiner were apart of the trade, the Jets as well would need a new deal done before hand. Although our best d prospects right now are all LH so its not a great fit. as for the forwards, nothing against them but the Jets already have Petan, Vessalaine, Appleton ( last years Rookie of the year in the AHL ) Lemieux, and others all currently outside the lineup fighting to get in. I am holding up hope for a long term deal, trading Trouba and re signing Myers is a big mistake. I get that we may not have a choice though if Trouba wont sign here
- Ross77


Probably not good trading partners unless we give up Nylander and make a bigger deal
Unholy_Goalie
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Jul 20 @ 2:19 PM ET
Gardiner is a different type of defender, in the sense that Gardiner doesn't really defend..
Trouba can play defense.. If the Jets want an offensively gifted D-Man for Trouba.. I think both teams would win the trade.

Trading Gardiner would almost certainly mean that Dermott would get more ice time

- PatC80


30 point defenseman with disappointing shot suppression numbers. So, not really, he doesn't do either very well.
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