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Dongull_Trump
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 19 @ 7:13 PM ET

- daeth



Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 19 @ 7:17 PM ET
That’s the one.
- Dongull_Trump

Never heard of it.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 19 @ 7:17 PM ET
no
- daeth

good.
Dongull_Trump
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Soon to be prison.
Joined: 03.24.2018

Jul 19 @ 7:22 PM ET
Never heard of it.
- Arctic_AARDVARK



Somewhere, FCN sheds a single teardrop.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 19 @ 7:22 PM ET


Well... I think its a horrible pick. Maybe if it was still the Gardens, or if the Police were still relevant...

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Matthews and marner are going to have their own songs when they score.

female dog better have my money
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jul 19 @ 7:26 PM ET
Somewhere, FCN sheds a single teardrop.
- Dongull_Trump



only if he's drinking beer
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 19 @ 7:26 PM ET

- Dongull_Trump

i dont want to say the name is genius (that'd be a terrible lie) but it's not not genius
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jul 19 @ 7:28 PM ET
Matthews and marner are going to have their own songs when they score.

female dog better have my money

- bryant



They both seem to like this song

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 19 @ 7:31 PM ET
Somewhere, FCN sheds a single teardrop.
- Dongull_Trump

I guarantee you Mr. Cow Comfort doesn't give a poop.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 19 @ 7:36 PM ET
Matthews and marner are going to have their own songs when they score.

female dog better have my money

- bryant

Marner would pick "Hit em' with a 4"
VT001
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2016

Jul 19 @ 7:52 PM ET
There is a difference from what a player and team offer for an arbitration hearing to what they are discussing in long term deals. Also, since Trouba is under team
Control for two more years, technically the jets could go
To arbitration this year and select the one year option and then next go back to arbitration and select the two year option. No need to panic when a player can not leave on his own for three years.

- Ross77


It doesn't work like that. The arbitrator will only reward a 1 year contract if the player is set to become a UFA in next season.

Basically arbitration will not allow a team to buy a year of a players UFA.

If he wants out, he will be gone at the most 2 years.

Depending on what is rewarded, If I'm the Jets, I go for a 2 year deal and trade him. If he is awarded between 5 to 5.5, a team will pay big to get 2 years out of him at that cost before he demands huge money.
Larry_Fine
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton , AB
Joined: 02.09.2017

Jul 19 @ 8:00 PM ET
It doesn't work like that. The arbitrator will only reward a 1 year contract if the player is set to become a UFA in next season.

Basically arbitration will not allow a team to buy a year of a players UFA.

If he wants out, he will be gone at the most 2 years.

Depending on what is rewarded, If I'm the Jets, I go for a 2 year deal and trade him. If he is awarded between 5 to 5.5, a team will pay big to get 2 years out of him at that cost before he demands huge money.

- VT001



Could be wrong here, but I believe the arbitrator must award one of the amounts asked for. Either by team or player. So in this case... 4M or 7M.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 19 @ 8:03 PM ET
Could be wrong here, but I believe the arbitrator must award one of the amounts asked for. Either by team or player. So in this case... 4M or 7M.
- Larry_Fine

I could also be wrong here, but i believe the arbitrator decides a number and both parties have to agree
Dongull_Trump
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 19 @ 8:03 PM ET
i dont want to say the name is genius (that'd be a terrible lie) but it's not not genius
- daeth



Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 19 @ 8:09 PM ET
Wow
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jul 19 @ 8:11 PM ET
It doesn't work like that. The arbitrator will only reward a 1 year contract if the player is set to become a UFA in next season.

Basically arbitration will not allow a team to buy a year of a players UFA.

If he wants out, he will be gone at the most 2 years.

Depending on what is rewarded, If I'm the Jets, I go for a 2 year deal and trade him. If he is awarded between 5 to 5.5, a team will pay big to get 2 years out of him at that cost before he demands huge money.

- VT001

I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure the team has the 1 or 2 year option no matter if the player is a UFA in one year. I think the Jets lose trade value if they go the two year route now. I think a team would rather acquire a player in need of a contract under team control than one who can walk away in 1-2 years. It gives the aquiring team a better chance of getting a long term deal. Either way, Chevy has established himself as someone who will not rush a trade just to make one. I still see him signing a 4-5 year deal.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
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Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 19 @ 8:15 PM ET

- Dongull_Trump

Dongull_Trump
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jul 19 @ 8:21 PM ET

- daeth



TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 19 @ 8:22 PM ET
Wow
- AdamFrench

Yes
dwoo33
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.24.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:45 PM ET
What would the Wild want for Dumba? Liljegren and a 2nd?
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:53 PM ET
What would the Wild want for Dumba? Liljegren and a 2nd?
- dwoo33

Gardiner is the obvious fit. Throw in a poopty prospect, or Leivo...

He's from Minny, hes a ufa after this season..
dwoo33
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.24.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:57 PM ET
Gardiner is the obvious fit. Throw in a poopty prospect, or Leivo...

He's from Minny, hes a ufa after this season..

- Arctic_AARDVARK


I’m thinking they would rather move Zucker if it means keeping Dumba. They gave Vegas a decent prospect to keep Dumba a year ago.
The Deal Man
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.28.2007

Jul 19 @ 10:16 PM ET
Mike Augello: A shrinking window of opportunity; new Leafs Convo
- mikeinbuffalo

VT001
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2016

Jul 19 @ 10:36 PM ET
I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure the team has the 1 or 2 year option no matter if the player is a UFA in one year. I think the Jets lose trade value if they go the two year route now. I think a team would rather acquire a player in need of a contract under team control than one who can walk away in 1-2 years. It gives the aquiring team a better chance of getting a long term deal. Either way, Chevy has established himself as someone who will not rush a trade just to make one. I still see him signing a 4-5 year deal.
- Ross77


Page # 62 of the CBA. http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en...12/NHL_NHLPA_2013_CBA.pdf

(c)
Election of Term.
The party against whom a salary arbitration election was filed (i.e., the Club in
Player-elected salary arbitration and the Player in Club-elected salary arbitration) shall elect in its brief whether the salary arbitration award shall be for a one or two-year SPC. Failure to make such an election shall be deemed to constitute an election for a one-year SPC. Notwithstanding the foregoing: (i) the Club or the Player, as the case may be, shall be entitled to elect only a one-year SPC if the Player is within one (1) year of attaining the age and experience level required for Group 3 Player status


If he really wants out of Winnipeg, he is gone in two years max.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 19 @ 10:40 PM ET
I’m thinking they would rather move Zucker if it means keeping Dumba. They gave Vegas a decent prospect to keep Dumba a year ago.
- dwoo33

Exactly. They gave up Alex Tuch to keep him.
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