Ken Daneyko is the greatest dman of all time and his best season was 21 points.
- drexel

How many drinks so far today? Be honest.

I agree that the recurrent injuries are problematic.

Good news is, the injuries are not the same problem repeating, so it could either mean the guy is injury prone, or has been unlucky for a few years.

And having injury problems takes nothing away from his ability to be a defensive staple or produce at a decent pace when he IS playing.
- Scabeh

haven't look at stats, but how were Trouba's numbers prior to and post his injury last year?

and - just because its necessary for transparency reasons...

how are Karlsson's number before and after his injury - let's do that comparison as well

I'm not sold on him. I think he's been filled with hype and potential since his draft day but it doesn't look like he's lived up to it, especially if he wants 7 million a year.
- Unholy_Goalie

It's a weird and interesting case imo.

The man has alot of things going his way and his overall play has been excellent (he was dominating at times during the last playoffs).

But he's also been playing behind big Buff in most offensive situation.... So his point is that he should be paid as a first pairing defenseman, or at least shouldn't be penalized for how the Jets use him (mostly as a shutdown guy).

While the Jets will point out his "ok" numbers over the years and obviously the injuries he suffered.

I have no idea how the arbitration will turn out, but it'll be interesting.

You know what the problem with guys that are always injured is?






They are always injured.
- Tumbleweed

that's pretty deep ...

have to think about it for a while

If Keon was still playing, I'd have other ways to evaluate his contribution, but i'll take your word for it since it's way before my time.
- Scabeh

Actually there is a way. Subscribe to Leafs-TV. They show lots of vintage games. Amazing really to watch a full game from days gone by.

haven't look at stats, but how were Trouba's numbers prior to and post his injury last year?

and - just because its necessary for transparency reasons...

how are Karlsson's number before and after his injury - let's do that comparison as well


- BorjeFan4Ever

His production actually ramped up after his injury because Big Buff missed a few games and he got the 1st powerplay wave for a few games.

And his best moments overall, despite a low point production, was his shutdown role in the playoffs. It was superb.

Actually there is a way. Subscribe to Leafs-TV. They show lots of vintage games. Amazing really to watch a full game from days gone by.
- winsix

I love watching hockey, but I don't have the time to watch old games.

And subscribe to Leafs TV? Dude I'm a Habs fan.

I love watching hockey, but I don't have the time to watch old games.

And subscribe to Leafs TV? Dude I'm a Habs fan.
- Scabeh

might be a learning experience for you... watch Leafs Habs games from back in the day..

with Leaf coverage instead of RadioCanada "fake news" coverage...

you probably find out that the Rocket did actually do anything at all when the city rioted

How many drinks so far today? Be honest.
- winsix

just two

His production actually ramped up after his injury because Big Buff missed a few games and he got the 1st powerplay wave for a few games.

And his best moments overall, despite a low point production, was his shutdown role in the playoffs. It was superb.
- Scabeh

I agree that he will be very good, also think that Hanifin will be great. Jack Johnson and Adam Larsson were also thought of highly - turned out really bad for the teams that drafted them.

might be a learning experience for you... watch Leafs Habs games from back in the day..

with Leaf coverage instead of RadioCanada "fake news" coverage...

you probably find out that the Rocket did actually do anything at all when the city rioted
- BorjeFan4Ever

What does that even mean?

I agree that he will be very good, also think that Hanifin will be great. Jack Johnson and Adam Larsson were also thought of highly - turned out really bad for the teams that drafted them.
- winsix

Considering Johnson was traded for Jeff Carter and Larsson got the Devils Hall... I think the team that drafted them turned out pretty well.

just two
- drexel

Good point
- Tumbleweed

What's with your avatar? And Aetherial too?

Considering Johnson was traded for Jeff Carter and Larsson got the Devils Hall... I think the team that drafted them turned out pretty well.
- Scabeh

you are correct, return on trade was good, the production while playing for - not so much.

What does that even mean?
- Scabeh

you are correct, return on trade was good, the production while playing for - not so much.
- winsix

Just remembered that Johnson was actually drafted by Carolina.

- BorjeFan4Ever

Ok then.

What's with your avatar? And Aetherial too?
- Unholy_Goalie

i lost a bet

aetherial stepped up to share in the fun.

30 point defenseman with disappointing shot suppression numbers. So, not really, he doesn't do either very well.
- Unholy_Goalie

Yea, his numbers when he was injured and not playing were brutal.

- winsix

not sure if this intended to represent average Sens fans, Habs fans or Sabres fans.

quite understandable from any of them actually

What does that even mean?
- Scabeh

if you really don't know... that's a topic for later discussion!

It's a weird thing when Trouba and Tanev are mentioned as guys the Leafs should go after to help their D.

(frank) it. Get both of them and we'll get 82 games out of them combined.

Rielly Trouba and Tanev
Gardiner Zaitsev
Dermott Ozighanov

Let's not go after Trouba.

Let's pick a dman up at the deadline and then wait for Lillybust the season after.
- walshyleafsfan

This. Unless a cheap vet can be added to help hold the fort.

if you really don't know... that's a topic for later discussion!
- BorjeFan4Ever

Dude I just don't understand what you're saying, because to me, your sentence doesn't make sense.

" that the Rocket did actually do anything at all when the city rioted"

Do you mean he did do something or didn't?

I can't debate something I don't understand.