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Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 19 @ 10:23 PM ET
CHI: Amonte
DAL: Modano
MIN: JP Parise
NSH: Fitzgerald
STL: Hull
COl: Salic
WPG: Selanne

- wrister


JP Parise never played for a team in the Central Division.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 20 @ 12:26 AM ET
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ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 20 @ 12:27 AM ET
@Grinder. You are such a D*ck sometimes.
- powerhouse


👍. If quotes not working. That’s for powerhouse
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 20 @ 12:28 AM ET
JP Parise never played for a team in the Central Division.
- Antilles
neither did Salic.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 20 @ 12:52 AM ET
neither did Salic.
- ChrisMS

Wtf is Salic? Lol

Anyway I've always liked Forsberg more.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jul 20 @ 4:37 AM ET
So no takers in saying Eric Staal is elite or not?


Also, any analytics guys want to have a go at what I asked matchett man about trying to use analytics to predict a players season - any player, also what analytics says about Tavares season coming up with the Leaves?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 20 @ 7:03 AM ET
So no takers in saying Eric Staal is elite or not?


Also, any analytics guys want to have a go at what I asked matchett man about trying to use analytics to predict a players season - any player, also what analytics says about Tavares season coming up with the Leaves?

- Aussiepenguin


If he wasn't, he was pretty damn close to being it around the year Carolina won the cup. He had a 100 point reg season and 28 points in 25 playoff games the year they won. Those are pretty elite numbers to me.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jul 20 @ 7:26 AM ET
Interesting.

https://www.tsn.ca/report...d=em%3Atsndailynewsletter
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jul 20 @ 7:28 AM ET
If he wasn't, he was pretty damn close to being it around the year Carolina won the cup. He had a 100 point reg season and 28 points in 25 playoff games the year they won. Those are pretty elite numbers to me.
- MattStrat


His scoring stats are very impressive as he's kept them up his whole career. Still, is that elite or just very good.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 20 @ 8:11 AM ET
His scoring stats are very impressive as he's kept them up his whole career. Still, is that elite or just very good.
- Aussiepenguin

I don’t think you can call him elite now, but he certainly was at one point and is a borderline HoF’er
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 20 @ 8:34 AM ET
This is a pretty interesting article for stat heads.

https://www.tsn.ca/do-tea...tacking-at-home-1.1143237
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jul 20 @ 8:39 AM ET
JP Parise never played for a team in the Central Division.
- Antilles


Neither did Salic, Sakic yes.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jul 20 @ 9:04 AM ET
I don’t think you can call him elite now, but he certainly was at one point and is a borderline HoF’er
- Victoro311



He had 1 really really good year (won Stanley), & a few ok years either side of that. From there he's been consistent but not exceptional. As I said - & im honest here, trying to differentiate between elite & very good seems hazy. He's been very consistent throughout but that doesn't make you elite does it? 1 really great year where your team wins the Cup could be seen as an up year especially seeing either side of that he wasn't even ppg couldn't it?


Edit: Just realised he played in the AHL the year before the Cup win. I think the Cup year was just an up year. Interesting that though.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jul 20 @ 9:29 AM ET
If he wasn't, he was pretty damn close to being it around the year Carolina won the cup. He had a 100 point reg season and 28 points in 25 playoff games the year they won. Those are pretty elite numbers to me.
- MattStrat


Played in the AHL the year before & wasn't close to a ppg player the year after the Cup. He's been a very consistent scorer though from there.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:29 AM ET
neither did Salic.
- ChrisMS


He was really great Star Trek character though.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:34 AM ET
The Pittsburgh Penguins have signed.... Center, Derek Grant

Strange signing to me as it's a one-way contract. I'm thinking this might raise the chances that both Brass and Cullen are moving to wing. This would now mean two guys are the odd men out.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 20 @ 9:47 AM ET
The Pittsburgh Penguins have signed.... Center, Derek Grant

Strange signing to me as it's a one-way contract. I'm thinking this might raise the chances that both Brass and Cullen are moving to wing. This would now mean two guys are the odd men out.

- Rinosaur


dominos
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:52 AM ET
dominos
- sammy87


I think it's insurance, but I do think it means we will see less of ZAR and Simon.

Jake-Sid-Horn
Brass-Geno-Kessel
Hagelin-Sheahan-Rust/Sprong
Cullen-Grant-Rust/Sprong

Weird...
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 20 @ 9:56 AM ET


He had 1 really really good year (won Stanley), & a few ok years either side of that. From there he's been consistent but not exceptional. As I said - & im honest here, trying to differentiate between elite & very good seems hazy. He's been very consistent throughout but that doesn't make you elite does it? 1 really great year where your team wins the Cup could be seen as an up year especially seeing either side of that he wasn't even ppg couldn't it?


Edit: Just realised he played in the AHL the year before the Cup win. I think the Cup year was just an up year. Interesting that though.

- Aussiepenguin

Lol dude that 2004-2005 season was the lockout season. No NHL hockey was played. Come on, man. This is basic hockey history.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:59 AM ET
Lol dude that 2004-2005 season was the lockout season. No NHL hockey was played. Come on, man. This is basic hockey history.
- Victoro311


If it wasn't in the box score, it didn't happen.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Jul 20 @ 9:59 AM ET
I think it's insurance, but I do think it means we will see less of ZAR and Simon.

Jake-Sid-Horn
Brass-Geno-Kessel
Hagelin-Sheahan-Rust/Sprong
Cullen-Grant-Rust/Sprong

Weird...

- Rinosaur

Better than opening the year with McKegg. Rutherford is probably haunted by that decision and is making sure center depth is covered. A lot easier to sign a center now than trade for an overpriced one at the deadline
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 20 @ 10:02 AM ET

Yesterday @ 2:47 PM ET
Kunitz is one of those guys I wish could retire a Penguin. He was really, really great for us for so long.


considering what he's signing for these day, not sure why they didn't bring him back
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 20 @ 10:03 AM ET
Better than opening the year with McKegg. Rutherford is probably haunted by that decision and is making sure center depth is covered. A lot easier to sign a center now than trade for an overpriced one at the deadline
- jchst22


Nothing wrong the cheap low-risk/high-reward depth. If he had a two-way contract I'd feel a little better, but my concern is now becoming roster decisions. Maybe Cullen has something left in the tank, maybe he doesn't, but he didn't come to back to the Pens to be a healthy scratch.

If Brass plays LW, that already raises chances of Rust or Sprong playing the 4th line which is weird. If both Brass and Cullen play LW, it could mean someone like Sprong isn't even in the lineup.

I'm hoping Grant will be a healthy scratch most nights.
Hossa1881
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 20 @ 10:09 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Favorite players - Central Division
Favorite players - Central Division

- Ryan_Wilson


Agreed about Kane. Fantastic hockey player, terrible person.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 20 @ 10:12 AM ET
considering what he's signing for these day, not sure why they didn't bring him back
- mgriffen

Yeah this is the second year in a row where keeping him/bringing him back made a lot of sense for the Pens. Don't really know why we haven't done so. The guy is a 2016 Matt Cullen level 4th liner at this point in his career.
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