Yes sir. Keep your feet moving, find a seam and become a target. Film work (coaches prepare players for the opponent) and hockey IQ should create OPTIONS.

You mention when the Hawks were winning cups the Hawk engine started with the Dmen triggering and as you say hold the blueline. It just seemed that the Hawks often times had 6 skaters on the ice in that there was always support which created flow. The positioning and IQ had a lot to do with that. I'd add the number one element was 23 hungry hungry hockey players who would swarm to win a puck and play hard away from it (support). ........ Seems it's been a long time since night in and night out the Hawks were the hungriest of the 2 teams on the ice.

Solid post sir.
- Mr Ricochet

Not to get too far into minutiae, but they really need to have the same mindset on the power play. If we gat another year of four guys standing around watching Kane stickhandle on the half-boards, I'm going to have to switch to something stronger than Scotch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFmVrB2MnAE

Wakey Wakey
- Hossa1881

To this day still think that was a clean hard hit backes lundge to get the puck put himself in a vulnerable position

https://twitter.com/innoh...tatus/1020307741561303043

Same basic clip, but interesting that after complimenting Panarin on his edge work, Kane's doing focused training (again?) on it. Have watched him try and replicate in many warmups and practices since start of play with Artemi.

EK On Steve Mason...

He is considered a great value and is still out there...I have mostly heard Vancouver, but I am starting to hear more and more surrounding Chicago and Mason...He would make a great option for the Hawks...

Why?

EK On Steve Mason...

He is considered a great value and is still out there...I have mostly heard Vancouver, but I am starting to hear more and more surrounding Chicago and Mason...He would make a great option for the Hawks...

Why?
- SoftServe

CC wouldn't be ready or won't be ready at all

Only way it makes sense.

EK On Steve Mason...

He is considered a great value and is still out there...I have mostly heard Vancouver, but I am starting to hear more and more surrounding Chicago and Mason...He would make a great option for the Hawks...

Why?
- SoftServe

Ek is just re-reading his notes from prior to free-agency. Just a lot of nothing there.

EK On Steve Mason...

He is considered a great value and is still out there...I have mostly heard Vancouver, but I am starting to hear more and more surrounding Chicago and Mason...He would make a great option for the Hawks...

Why?
- SoftServe

He might have heard another rumor of Ward waiving his NMC and we trade him for Malkin.

So that arbitration hearing for Trouba is today ya?

He might have heard another rumor of Ward waiving his NMC and we trade him for Malkin.
- MDGHawk

It feels like such a Hawks summer of 2018 thing to happen - our top two D prospects take each other out in camp.

Charlie Roumeliotis
@CRoumeliotis

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Henri Jokiharju said he was worried he injured Adam Boqvist: "I was skating and I was like, 'Oh man, I feel so bad after that.'"

Boqvist smiled and said: "It was a big hit from Jokiharju. But yeah, I feel good." #Blackhawks

vid: https://twitter.com/CRoum...tatus/1020330311295660032

Also is Jake Wise committed anywhere? Or could be possibly break camp? Especially if AA is dealt? He's has really impressed me.


Committed to BU, nvm.

Also is Jake Wise committed anywhere? Or could be possibly break camp? Especially if AA is dealt? He's has really impressed me.
- SoftServe

He's going to Boston U

1:1 interview with him https://www.nhl.com/black...se/t-277437096/c-60795303

You are well entitled to your opinion, but as you state several times in this passage, you have no idea what they are or aren't doing to prepare.

I'm not giving them a pass on their performance (particularly last year), but to imply that they aren't doing anything to improve their games is pure speculation.
- Chunk

You may think so and you are right to be entitled to your opinion.

From my vantage, the proof has been out on the ice for all to see the past few years.

Kane working on taking his shot, improving his shooting > evidenced by more goals.

Keith getting shots blocked constantly > ?
Toews bobbling pucks, inability to stickhandle around defenders > ?
Seabrook getting walked, even more slow-footed & seemingly overweight > ?

What would lead anyone to think that any of these guys will find a fountain of youth/make a miraculous return to their former selves -- again, the proof become what we see OUT ON THE ICE during the season.

We know Kane works on areas he believes need improvement. We see it.
What about these other guys, all highly paid and presumably the leaders of this club. What about them?????
It won't be long before we find out -- before we see on the ice what they have or have not done. For me, it is as simple as that.

You may think so and you are right to be entitled to your opinion.

From my vantage, the proof has been out on the ice for all to see the past few years.

Kane working on taking his shot, improving his shooting > evidenced by more goals.

Keith getting shots blocked constantly > ?
Toews bobbling pucks, inability to stickhandle around defenders > ?
Seabrook getting walked, even more slow-footed & seemingly overweight > ?

What would lead anyone to think that any of these guys will find a fountain of youth/make a miraculous return to their former selves -- again, the proof become what we see OUT ON THE ICE during the season.

We know Kane works on areas he believes need improvement. We see it.
What about these other guys, all highly paid and presumably the leaders of this club. What about them?????
It won't be long before we find out -- before we see on the ice what they have or have not done. For me, it is as simple as that.
- savvyone-1

yeah, I only see Kane as improving each year.

I'd stand in front of Keith's shot and not think twice. he couldn't break my joffa shin pads if he tried.

yeah, I only see Kane as improving each year.

I'd stand in front of Keith's shot and not think twice. he couldn't break my joffa shin pads if he tried.
- SteveRain

No lifters Rainman!

Not to get too far into minutiae, but they really need to have the same mindset on the power play. If we get another year of four guys standing around watching Kane stickhandle on the half-boards, I'm going to have to switch to something stronger than Scotch.
- Chunk

Or switch the channel? Add being outworked by the opposing PK most of the time to the stagnant predictable PP the last few yrs you end up with fans screaming for change, any kind of change.

To many the PP is just a window into the stagnation of the Hawks as a whole the last few yrs.

No lifters Rainman!
- savvyone-1

I do love Foley's blind love for Keith. No matter what happens.....Foley has his back. I'm just waitng for him to wear the #2 sweater on a broadcast.

The dragging of the line on the PP followed by a shot either
A) goes wide and clears the zone
B) is blocked and cleared
or my favorite
C) is blocked and leads to a scoring chance for PK team

yet the guy is always on PP1......has to be ego driven.

Yes sir. Keep your feet moving, find a seam and become a target. Film work (coaches prepare players for the opponent) and hockey IQ should create OPTIONS.

You mention when the Hawks were winning cups the Hawk engine started with the Dmen triggering and as you say hold the blueline. It just seemed that the Hawks often times had 6 skaters on the ice in that there was always support which created flow. The positioning and IQ had a lot to do with that. I'd add the number one element was 23 hungry hungry hockey players who would swarm to win a puck and play hard away from it (support). ........ Seems it's been a long time since night in and night out the Hawks were the hungriest of the 2 teams on the ice.

Solid post sir.
- Mr Ricochet

Totally agree, and i will continue to bang this drum, Corey Crawford was hurt for half the season? History shows starting goalie goes down team equals bad season, just look at the prior year with Quick and the Kings, even Montreal this year. With salary cap impossible to have 2 starting goalies on roster. If you have 2 starters on your roster than you really don't have a starting goal tender.

Or switch the channel? Add being outworked by the opposing PK most of the time to the stagnant predictable PP the last few yrs you end up with fans screaming for change, any kind of change.

To many the PP is just a window into the stagnation of the Hawks as a whole the last few yrs.
- Mr Ricochet

I honestly watched a lot of games on mute last year when it was the local feed. I can't handle the constant shout outs, grab @ss, love for Mama Eddie O's chocolate cookies, etc

I do walk out of the room on when they are on the PP after the initial draw. IF the hawks win it, I'll stay until the 1st wide shot that clears the zone or clear. IF they lose the draw I immediately walk out.

It's beyond old, aggravating.....I feel like I get dumber watching that PP and listening to Foley.

I'll say it again....give me national broadcast Eddie O every day.....he's a joy. Foley brings him down 5 notches.

You may think so and you are right to be entitled to your opinion.

From my vantage, the proof has been out on the ice for all to see the past few years.

Kane working on taking his shot, improving his shooting > evidenced by more goals.

Keith getting shots blocked constantly > ?
Toews bobbling pucks, inability to stickhandle around defenders > ?
Seabrook getting walked, even more slow-footed & seemingly overweight > ?

What would lead anyone to think that any of these guys will find a fountain of youth/make a miraculous return to their former selves -- again, the proof become what we see OUT ON THE ICE during the season.

We know Kane works on areas he believes need improvement. We see it.
What about these other guys, all highly paid and presumably the leaders of this club. What about them?????
It won't be long before we find out -- before we see on the ice what they have or have not done. For me, it is as simple as that.
- savvyone-1

I'm not saying there isn't proof that they are worse than they used to be (quite the contrary). My point is that we have virtually no idea what they are doing to prepare for the season.

I will happily grant that they may not be doing the "right things" (working on shot accuracy, blade work, whatever), but it would be pure speculation to say they are doing nothing. Toews did a ton of work to get leaner. it obviously didn't help his performance on ice, but he was still putting in a lot of work.

Maybe it would be better if the team had some more input into what these guys do in the offseason beyond a few recommendations during the end-of-year meetings.

https://www.the-rink.com/...awks-prospect-camp-day-4/

Day 4 recap from the Rink. A few observations they shared, nothing earth shattering as the prospects who have been impressing are continuing to do so:

Continuing to impress: Wise, Slavin, Fortin, Soderlund, Boqvist, Beaudin, Krys, Mitchell.

Dahlstrom is showing to be handful for defenders being a pain to play against. The Rink likened his play to Shaw. Justin, excellent choice as one of your camp all stars!

Nordgren must be injured or something as he was not in camp again (not since Day 1).

https://www.the-rink.com/blackhawks-prospect-camp-day-4/

Day 4 recap from the Rink. A few observations they shared, nothing earth shattering as the prospects who have been impressing are continuing to do so:

Continuing to impress: Wise, Slavin, Fortin, Soderlund, Boqvist, Beaudin, Krys, Mitchell.

Dahlstrom is showing to be handful for defenders being a pain to play against. The Rink likened his play to Shaw. Justin, excellent choice as one of your camp all stars!

Nordgren must be injured or something as he was not in camp again (not since Day 1).
- AEL_Fox

According to Lazerus, Nordgren has a lower body inj, Nilsson was out for a wedding, and Hillman they know what they have, so they gave him the day off.

I'm not saying there isn't proof that they are worse than they used to be (quite the contrary). My point is that we have virtually no idea what they are doing to prepare for the season.

I will happily grant that they may not be doing the "right things" (working on shot accuracy, blade work, whatever), but it would be pure speculation to say they are doing nothing. Toews did a ton of work to get leaner. it obviously didn't help his performance on ice, but he was still putting in a lot of work.

Maybe it would be better if the team had some more input into what these guys do in the offseason beyond a few recommendations during the end-of-year meetings.
- Chunk

Hey Chunk, my apologies to you for coming across so bluntly, wasn't directed at you so much as the general consensus (IMO) that these guys are working in the off-season to improve.

My point: IF they are working in the off-season, it doesn't show in on-ice performance in any way, shape or form.

And if they ARE working, then the latter bolded part matters. Why is it then that Kane seems to find/know and work with the "right" individuals that clearly DO help him improve what we see in on-ice performance? Are the other guys blind to it? Do they not want to spend any of their coin (I'm assuming here Kane funds his own off-season skills/training?).

I mean, what is it -- they don't know who to work with? I'd suggest they ask around or ask their own teammate since he always seems to know/find the right people.

Not want to spend the time/coin to do so?
They are getting paid HUGE $'s compared to the rest of us slubs (even if some of us are attorneys, doctors, VPs, whatever).

All I know is: Kane works on his skills/training>it shows in-season.
We don't know but assume: Keith/Seabrook/Toews do "something" in off-season>doesn't show=wrong people helping them and/OR not doing anything. So in effect, it DOES show in that they look worse year-to-year.

I honestly watched a lot of games on mute last year when it was the local feed. I can't handle the constant shout outs, grab @ss, love for Mama Eddie O's chocolate cookies, etc

I do walk out of the room on when they are on the PP after the initial draw. IF the hawks win it, I'll stay until the 1st wide shot that clears the zone or clear. IF they lose the draw I immediately walk out.

It's beyond old, aggravating.....I feel like I get dumber watching that PP and listening to Foley.

I'll say it again....give me national broadcast Eddie O every day.....he's a joy. Foley brings him down 5 notches.
- SteveRain

Not a thing I don't totally agree with here. I hate to say the booth can have an affect on what I watch or don't but Eddie and Foley are simply un-listenable to me. Away from each they are pros but I do believe Foley has become very lazy in his preparation which makes him uninteresting and redundant. He adds nothing the casual fan doesn't already know.

The NHL package really changed the NHL and Hawks for me. Firstly it showed just how bad Foley is but how damn boring a Hawk game can be. The horrid predictability of the PP, the perimeter soft play and matter of factly succumbing to a teammate taking a flying elbow or a loss is magnified by watching a hungry team like the Jets, CLB, NSH and even Carolina or even AZ (hungry hungry teams that more times than not play playoff intensity hockey). I don't care who the Hawks are playing that day if WPG is playing NSH I watch that game first.

For me a beauty and draw to the sport is the compete, effort and will it takes to win and watching that gives me my fix. If the Hawks won't give me that there are a lot of teams/games that will.

In other words exposure to the whole league has shown the Hawks unwatchable far too often and I've thought that for a few yrs now.

MAF had a career year and a few guys produced well above the norm. Karlsson for sure.

When those 40 goals turn into 20 and MAF only stops 91% you'll see them closer to 8 then they are to 1.
- fattybeef

They lost Neal too. Have to agree with you.