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Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
You put out some great stuff! In previous posts, you prospect/NHL comparisons and the one that struck me the most was the Shalunov/Kunetszov. If he turns out be Kuneyszov Light, it would be an awesome coup because I think the world of Kunetszov and see him as one of the best skaters in NHL. And we have already about the staunch comparison of Boqvist/Karlson which would be other to turn heads and get us excited about!
- D2D

Thanks!

To clarify, the Kuznetsov comparable is for Kurashev, not Shalunov. I think Shalunov's comparable is a higher-end version of Anisimov. In terms of projectable stats, I'd be happy if he output Anisimov numbers of 20+ goals and 40+ points with the potential for 25 G and 50 P.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 22 @ 2:55 PM ET
The other comparison was Beaudin/Provorov. Having watched Provorov progressed back in the USHL with the Rough Riders to now is amazing. While he still has to clean up his D zone work and turnover rate, he definitely is a first pairing Dman, if not now then soon. The one thing about Provorov is his skating ability and hands to go along with it; he makes things look so effortlessly and efficient! So if Beaudin can emulate that it would be thus another coup.
- D2D

The bolded part was an observation that a few had about both Beaudin and Boqvist during camp: their puck handling skills were very refined and effortless. Subtle yet high end talent in this regard.
D2D
Joined: 05.27.2018

Jul 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
Thanks!

To clarify, the Kuznetsov comparable is for Kurashev, not Shalunov. I think Shalunov's comparable is a higher-end version of Anisimov. In terms of projectable stats, I'd be happy if he output Anisimov numbers of 20+ goals and 40+ points with the potential for 25 G and 50 P.

- AEL_Fox


My bad then praise should go to Kurashev...just couldn't remember from previuos post and too lazy to go back and check! LOL!
D2D
Joined: 05.27.2018

Jul 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
Thanks!

To clarify, the Kuznetsov comparable is for Kurashev, not Shalunov. I think Shalunov's comparable is a higher-end version of Anisimov. In terms of projectable stats, I'd be happy if he output Anisimov numbers of 20+ goals and 40+ points with the potential for 25 G and 50 P.

- AEL_Fox


My bad then praise should go to Kurashev...just couldn't remember from previuos post and too lazy to go back and check! LOL!
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 22 @ 2:58 PM ET
My bad then praise should go to Kurashev...just couldn't remember from previuos post and too lazy to go back and check! LOL!
- D2D

Your point still stands that it would be great if Kurashev was even half of Kuznetsov's capacity.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 22 @ 3:05 PM ET
Justin do you hear anything about the Hawk's monitoring the Trouba situation/prepared to jump in, if the two sides can't agree on something?
- SoftServe


Nope. Have not heard anything about Trouba.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jul 22 @ 3:26 PM ET
Nope. Have not heard anything about Trouba.
- Justin Lowe

Per Elliotte Friedman twitter
Arbitrator spilt down the middle for Trouba -- $5.5M
SoftServe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.19.2016

Jul 22 @ 3:44 PM ET
Per Elliotte Friedman twitter
Arbitrator spilt down the middle for Trouba -- $5.5M

- Marlowe


So he's back with the Jets, or what does that mean?
SoftServe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.19.2016

Jul 22 @ 3:46 PM ET
Per Elliotte Friedman twitter
Arbitrator spilt down the middle for Trouba -- $5.5M

- Marlowe


Nevermind lol "The Jets now have 48 hours to decide whether they will accept the arbitrator’s decision or decline it and let Trouba become an unrestricted free agent."

Jets originally had filed for $4 million....he wanted 7. Crossing my fingers Jets decline lol
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jul 22 @ 4:24 PM ET
Nevermind lol "The Jets now have 48 hours to decide whether they will accept the arbitrator’s decision or decline it and let Trouba become an unrestricted free agent."

Jets originally had filed for $4 million....he wanted 7. Crossing my fingers Jets decline lol

- SoftServe



If the Jets decline, does that make Trouba a FA?
eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Jul 22 @ 4:39 PM ET
If the Jets decline, does that make Trouba a FA?
- z1990z

No way do they not sign him.......5.5 mil it is and a modified contract on Trouba part so that he has some control of where he gets traded down the road would be my guess.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 22 @ 4:48 PM ET
Hawks are not getting Trouba bowman asleep at the wheel. Plus trouba is to big and physical, and loves his smurfs. Ha ha
SoftServe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.19.2016

Jul 22 @ 4:49 PM ET
I'ts seriously brutal waiting for something of somewhat significance to happen to improve this team.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jul 22 @ 4:52 PM ET
No way do they not sign him.......5.5 mil it is and a modified contract on Trouba part so that he has some control of where he gets traded down the road would be my guess.
- eagle50
Arbitration awarded contracts are not eligible for NTC/NMCs.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jul 22 @ 5:05 PM ET
Just had Portillo's for the first time in about 20 years. As good as I remember!
Hawkster
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Quebec , QC
Joined: 06.13.2008

Jul 22 @ 5:09 PM ET
I'ts seriously brutal waiting for something of somewhat significance to happen to improve this team.
- SoftServe



Looks like mngt is happy driving the current roster into the ground and making no significant changes.....

Lottery here we come.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jul 22 @ 5:24 PM ET
No problem the trade was just suggestion in case the 2 parties did not come to agreement. As far as compensation I believe is:

6 million or more 1st 2nd 3rd

4 to 5 million 1st and 3rd

3 to 5million 2nd

1 to 3 million is a 3rd

Something along those lines I might mistaken but its similar to that.

- Scott1977

Close

1.34-2.03m = 3rd
2.03-4.06m = 2nd
4.06-6.09m = 1st + 3rd
6.09-8.12m = 1st + 2nd + 3rd
8.12-10.15m = 1st + 1st +2n
10.15m and above = 4 x 1st

Most GMs don't offer sheet because 1) the compensation for the guys worth offer sheeting is usually at least in the 1st + 2nd + 3rd pick range (Trouba, for example); 2) rarely does it work (only Penner has moved teams); and 3) there is a negative response from all other GMs. O'Reilly in 2013 was the last player to even be offered and there were reports of other GMs not wanting to work with Feaster after it (he was fired in December later that year).
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 22 @ 5:27 PM ET
Arbitration awarded contracts are not eligible for NTC/NMCs.
- L_B_R

The local flavor OF COARSE is the high end skill 2018 draft dmen and couple others whom like Hillman - who has the impressed late season & has some nastiness in his game.

Mitchell too was quickly a focal point. He has been highly touted for a while.

Two not "hot" enough to cover the did, in fact , receive praise as steadily improving past two seasons, according to The Athletic. Tuulola can skate like heck and Carlsson is the shutdown dman, explained The Athletic writer.

Fact;. Tuulola stepped in AHL playoffs three last and looked solid, a hockeybuzz entry said about the games seen.

These two were signed to contracts. They are likely closer to NHL than those glamourous those reporters and Justin chose to comment. I am guessing that while Justin doesn't know enough about ALL prospects, the scouts, staff/Bowman know.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jul 22 @ 5:35 PM ET
Looks like mngt is happy driving the current roster into the ground and making no significant changes.....

Lottery here we come.

- Hawkster

I get the flip, ‘all is woe’ post, but, realistically:

If CC plays, that’s a significant improvement, replacing the revolving door of AHL goalies with an NHL All-Star, 2 time SC winner.

As they say in MLB, it’s likely players with a down year rebound to their norm. Think Jason Heyward, then Saad & Toews.

Most times, rookies improve in their second or third season, after getting experience at the NHL level. There are a bunch of young guys that can take a step up.

The off-season acquisitions are not done yet. There are potential additions, with or without subtractions.

I expect a playoff season, and not through the wild card.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jul 22 @ 5:36 PM ET
Interesting! They were able to steal him fro the Marlies, then.

He's probably maxed out on players wanting his services, but wish Kaner would throw a few of his own sessions this summer Toews' way.

- pdx2ord

Kane got Schmaltz and Hartman invites to work with him last summer, so if Toews wanted to work with him, he totally could. Kane is one of his oldest clients - been working with him since he was 9/10, back when he only worked with kids. Maybe he will since Toews seems to be in Chicago this summer, like Kane.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 22 @ 5:47 PM ET
the Jets are running out of cap space with multiple free agents still to sign. Does Stan go for Myers and then try to move Ruuta for a forward?
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 22 @ 6:00 PM ET
Just had Portillo's for the first time in about 20 years. As good as I remember!
- tvetter


Then you’ll be glad to know that the old man and the family got over $1Billion when they sold the company to Berkshire Partners a couple of years ago.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 22 @ 6:01 PM ET
Nevermind lol "The Jets now have 48 hours to decide whether they will accept the arbitrator’s decision or decline it and let Trouba become an unrestricted free agent."

Jets originally had filed for $4 million....he wanted 7. Crossing my fingers Jets decline lol

- SoftServe

The PEG would be crazy to let him go w/o any compensation. $5.5M isn't bad given the crazy cash being handed out. Take it, keep the kid and deal with the situation next June.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jul 22 @ 6:05 PM ET
Then you’ll be glad to know that the old man and the family got over $1Billion when they sold the company to Berkshire Partners a couple of years ago.
- StLBravesFan

Good for them. CASH cow. At least the ones in SCH & CL. If that was a true franchisee opportunity, I would have jumped all over it years ago.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jul 22 @ 6:06 PM ET
the Jets are running out of cap space with multiple free agents still to sign. Does Stan go for Myers and then try to move Ruuta for a forward?
- ikeane

If they accept Trouba at $5.5m, they still have $12.9m in space and only Morrissey, Tanev, and Dano to sign. Morrissey is the only one that should get any real money but still probably not a huge amount. Tanev had only 18 points and Dano only 3 (after playing in only 23 games) - they're looking at 4th line money lbr.

Jets might want to move Myers or Wheeler anyway simply because they're UFA at the end of the year, if they don't resign them.
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