Yeah, Forsling is kind of the forgotten guy with all the hoopla about Jokiharju, Boqvist, and the other young d-men at prospect camp. He probably doesn't have as high a ceiling as Joki but he's probably more ready for an NHL role. Both Forsling and Joki are behind a numbers game with veteran RDs and LDs already slotted into the lineup, but I think Forsling has as good a chance as Joki to get a spot in the lineup this season.
- EbonyRaptor

100% agreed! I thought Forsling started out last year in good shape and one thing was very noticable was is skating ability to get either up ice with the puck and out of danger or being the 3 or 4 man in on the attack. I also his D was not all that bad during that time, yes there ample room for improvement there but he had a couple bad negative numbers and Q bench him and took TOI away from him. As you can imagine from a younger guy, he lost his confidence and kind of played not to make a mistake as to opposed to playing to his strength. I think he has more upside at least defensively than Gus.

Yeah, Trouba is RD so he would probably play with Keith. Trouba is a wrecking ball type player and I would love to have him on the Hawks but I don't think he's really a top pairing guy, at least not on a team with better RD's than the Hawks currently have. He's asking for $7M in arbitration and I think that's about $1.5M - $2.0M more than he's worth. It will be interesting to see what happens if it gets to arbitration.
- EbonyRaptor

With all due respect, I do think Trouba is a one pairing...is he a Doughty NO but I would gladly take him over Faulk (way better defensively and his O is under-rated) and Stralman, two righties talked about incessantly. Matter of fact, I would take him over Tyler Myers (yes bigger but not harder to play against) Also I believe his ceiling is much higher

With all due respect, I do think Trouba is a one pairing...is he a Doughty NO but I would gladly take him over Faulk (way better defensively and his O is under-rated) and Stralman, two righties talked about incessantly. Matter of fact, I would take him over Tyler Myers (yes bigger but not harder to play against) Also I believe his ceiling is much higher
- D2D

I would take Trouba in a heartbeat over Faulk. I'm not a Faulk fan. He's got a plus shot from the blue line on the PP - that's about it. Acquiring Trouba and Faulk would be more long term signings rather than stop gap - Trouba with new contract and Faulk on the re-up. Stralman would be a stop gap. I would have no problem with acquiring Stralman short term or Trouba long term if the price was right. Faulk - don't want him.

Solid prospect camp with a lot of great video coverage. It was great to check out the new guys on the block, as well ss how others have progressed.

I will have a wrap up Sunday or Monday, aling with a couple things I'm hearing.
- Justin Lowe

Do tell! Can't give a tease like that!!!!

Big bounce back year coming for Toews. Big mistake to give away Hinostroza will make mgt look really stupid yet again.

Why on earth would the Hawks not put in a big offer sheet on Jacob Trouba? All that cap space, what they need is a top 4 D and they don't want to give up the assets to trade for Faulk. The one answer would be to offer sheet a player who fits the bill and unless Trouba settles on the doorstep of the arbitration room, this seems the obvious thing to do.

Why on earth would the Hawks not put in a big offer sheet on Jacob Trouba? All that cap space, what they need is a top 4 D and they don't want to give up the assets to trade for Faulk. The one answer would be to offer sheet a player who fits the bill and unless Trouba settles on the doorstep of the arbitration room, this seems the obvious thing to do.
- Korab

#IneptGM

How bout anything from Stan!?

You got that right, look no further than what the coach did with Kempney and Trevor Daley so I guess everything is a crapshoot when it comes to that guy. Be just our luck we would get Jacob Trouba or a defenseman of the same, and the coach would jack him off also.
- wonthecup10

I thought Trevor Daley sucked and was never impressed with him, didn't care if he was moved.

Trevor Daley won two cups in Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh didn't win those cups because of Trevor Daley

Why on earth would the Hawks not put in a big offer sheet on Jacob Trouba? All that cap space, what they need is a top 4 D and they don't want to give up the assets to trade for Faulk. The one answer would be to offer sheet a player who fits the bill and unless Trouba settles on the doorstep of the arbitration room, this seems the obvious thing to do.
- Korab

Hawks do not have their own 3rd round pick. So they cannot go that route.

Debricant krys/boqvist 1st 2020 3rd 2019 for trouba lowery

Debricant krys/boqvist 1st 2020 3rd 2019 for trouba lowery
- Scott1977

they traded their 2019 3rd in the Hossa deal

they traded their 2019 3rd in the Hossa deal
- ikeane

Ok 2020 3rd switch draft picks and years

Debricant krys/boqvist 1st 2020 3rd 2019 for trouba lowery
- Scott1977

OMG - NO! A top-pairing d-man has to be either elite level offensively or elite level devensively - and the great ones are both. Trouba is not elite offensively and he's not elite defensively. He is a knock-em sock-em 2nd pairing guy that I would love to have on the Hawks but not near at the cost you suggest.

OMG - NO! A top-pairing d-man has to be either elite level offensively or elite level devensively - and the great ones are both. Trouba is not elite offensively and he's not elite defensively. He is a knock-em sock-em 2nd pairing guy that I would love to have on the Hawks but not near at the cost you suggest.
- EbonyRaptor

Maybe to much but have think about the future also get 2 young players in trouba and lowery . what would your trade for trouba?

Debricant krys/boqvist 1st 2020 3rd 2019 for trouba lowery
- Scott1977

A bit of an overpay Scott. Just my opinion

A bit of an overpay Scott. Just my opinion
- BGKarras

Yes but thinking about who is the future d men after kieth and seabrook thats all need to give to get

To be fair to Bouma, he played every game from season start until Feb 19th.
- breadbag

Well, almost every game - he missed a handful of games at the end of January and then about 3 in February before being sent down. Close, though.

Ok 2020 3rd switch draft picks and years
- Scott1977

That's not how the draft pick compensation works - they have to use their own pick for the immediate next draft - unless the compensation is for two picks from the same round, then they come from back to back drafts.

And anyway, no one can offer sheet a player who filed for arbitration so the Hawks couldn't do it now even if they had the picks.

That's not how the draft pick compensation works - they have to use their own pick for the immediate next draft - unless the compensation is for two picks from the same round, then they come from back to back drafts.

And anyway, no one can offer sheet a player who filed for arbitration so the Hawks couldn't do it now even if they had the picks.
- L_B_R

No understand that so if winnipeg do not come to agreement a both sides come to impass would the trade i proposed be reasonable. That was my thought when I presented the trade proposal probably should stated that first. My bad

No understand that so if winnipeg do not come to agreement a both sides come to impass would the trade i proposed be reasonable. That was my thought when I presented the trade proposal probably should stated that first. My bad
- Scott1977

No, my bad - I thought you were carrying on the convo about offer sheets but you were talking a trade.

No, my bad - I thought you were carrying on the convo about offer sheets but you were talking a trade.
- L_B_R

No problem the trade was just suggestion in case the 2 parties did not come to agreement. As far as compensation I believe is:

6 million or more 1st 2nd 3rd

4 to 5 million 1st and 3rd

3 to 5million 2nd

1 to 3 million is a 3rd

Something along those lines I might mistaken but its similar to that.

Maybe to much but have think about the future also get 2 young players in trouba and lowery . what would your trade for trouba?
- Scott1977

I think we've already established we have different opinions on Trouba - my assessment of Trouba is a 2nd pairing (at best) who isn't elite offensively or defensively and can often times a little out of control. He plays defense well enough to be a 2nd pairing guy and brings a physical element that is a definite plus when he isn't playing over the line or out of control.

DeBrincat scored 28 goals as a 19 year old munshkin rookie when he spent most shifts not playing with Kane or on the PP. If he isn't a top-6 30+ goal scorer for the next 10 years I would be very surprised. Therefore I wouldn't trade DeBrincat straight up for Trouba. As for Krys/Boqvist - Boqvist's ceiling makes him an untouchable so let's erase him from the proposal.

Krys and a 2020 first for Trouba - I'm good with that but I doubt Winnipeg would be.

I would say maybe Jokiharju and a pick for Trouba because most likely Joki ends up a 2nd pairing guy once Boqvist takes over 1st pairing RD - BUT - the problem with that is if Trouba is going to get $7M it impacts the Hawks salary cap structure to give Schmaltz his due next summer and DeBrincat the summer after that.

Here's my bottom line - I prefer using 2018/19 as a rebuilding/retooling/take assessment of what we have year with the objective of being legit contenders by 2020/21 or 21/22. I'm not suggesting to tank - just don't do anything this summer that could hurt us in the future. If things go better then expected and we have a shot by the TDL - then fine, change plans and try to help the 2018/19 team at the TDL.

Big bounce back year coming for Toews. Big mistake to give away Hinostroza will make mgt look really stupid yet again.
- Savoy

You are just too funny!!!!

Seriously??? A smurf that is a borderline 4th line winger. At best, he will have 30-35 points on a last place team - and you will still pine for him.

Keep these gems coming - you are always good for a laugh!!!!

So i'm guessing if Stan is really done then we can expect no playoffs and another high draft pick?

I think we've already established we have different opinions on Trouba - my assessment of Trouba is a 2nd pairing (at best) who isn't elite offensively or defensively and can often times a little out of control. He plays defense well enough to be a 2nd pairing guy and brings a physical element that is a definite plus when he isn't playing over the line or out of control.

DeBrincat scored 28 goals as a 19 year old munshkin rookie when he spent most shifts not playing with Kane or on the PP. If he isn't a top-6 30+ goal scorer for the next 10 years I would be very surprised. Therefore I wouldn't trade DeBrincat straight up for Trouba. As for Krys/Boqvist - Boqvist's ceiling makes him an untouchable so let's erase him from the proposal.

Krys and a 2020 first for Trouba - I'm good with that but I doubt Winnipeg would be.


- EbonyRaptor

I would say maybe Jokiharju and a pick for Trouba

because most likely Joki ends up a 2nd pairing guy once Boqvist takes over 1st pairing RD - BUT - the problem with that is if Trouba is going to get $7M it impacts the Hawks salary cap structure to give Schmaltz his due next summer and DeBrincat the summer after that.

Here's my bottom line - I prefer using 2018/19 as a rebuilding/retooling/take assessment of what we have year with the objective of being legit contenders by 2020/21 or 21/22. I'm not suggesting to tank - just don't do anything this summer that could hurt us in the future. If things go better then expected and we have a shot by the TDL - then fine, change plans and try to help the 2018/19 team at the TDL.

If you think that's all Winnipeg wants for Trouba, you are living in a fantasy world.

I was talking to an agent for a few NHL players in June - and about a week ago. He was laughing at the current game that NHL GMs are playing.

They are putting names out there - claiming they want to move them - either for cost savings or for wanting to go with younger players, then asking a king's ransom in return. Ottawa, Tampa, Carolina and Winnipeg were just a few that he named - and it's leaving other GMs shaking their heads at the requests.

He said the funniest one - to him - was what the Islanders were asking Toronto to give up for Tavares - when the Leafs knew full well they only had to wait a few weeks, then just sign him. They were trying to appease Tavares to get him the full amount in a sign and trade, but New York was delusional in thinking they had Toronto over a barrel to make it happen.

That's why movement this summer has been so slow. As Justin and John have said - if there is a move to be made, it may not happen until we get closer to the start of training camps around the league.