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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 19 @ 11:28 PM ET
so accurate though
- Giroux_Is_God



Shhh your envy is showing
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 20 @ 1:50 AM ET
I always had hopes Weal was going to be great at the shoot out. I think Hak has the same opinion because he called for Weal a bunch at least earlier part of the season. He ended up 2 for 7 for 28% which isn’t terrible. I think 2ndvon the team after Jake.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 20 @ 3:29 AM ET
Mono, stop playing Warframe. the only good thing about that game is the movement. everything else is hot garbage.
- Mordecai


I only played it because my friend, who is really good at it and loves it and has spent way too many hours on it, was excited to show me the ropes. I played it for a few hours, it was mildly fun, but I don't exactly plan to play endless hours on it or really care about the crafting. I'm not really into those gear hoarding Destiny games anyway, and it seemed rather repetitive and self-serious and PvE dungeons gets old. Just tried it to play with my friend in short spurts. I tried Smite earlier with him, and I was not having it. People are too good at it, I don't play MOBAs, and yuck. At least this I can shoulder shrug play.

And by the way you little biyatch, my #1 and #2 games are still NHL and Fortnite (won 3 duos games today, couple top 3 finishes), both of which you're on plenty. So, instead of complaining about Warframe, send me a message and I WILL PLAY NOT WARFRAME WITH YOU. I just took my dog out, I'm going back to bed, I hate you, I love you, I hate that I love you.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 20 @ 5:54 AM ET
I only played it because my friend, who is really good at it and loves it and has spent way too many hours on it, was excited to show me the ropes. I played it for a few hours, it was mildly fun, but I don't exactly plan to play endless hours on it or really care about the crafting. I'm not really into those gear hoarding Destiny games anyway, and it seemed rather repetitive and self-serious and PvE dungeons gets old. Just tried it to play with my friend in short spurts. I tried Smite earlier with him, and I was not having it. People are too good at it, I don't play MOBAs, and yuck. At least this I can shoulder shrug play.

And by the way you little biyatch, my #1 and #2 games are still NHL and Fortnite (won 3 duos games today, couple top 3 finishes), both of which you're on plenty. So, instead of complaining about Warframe, send me a message and I WILL PLAY NOT WARFRAME WITH YOU. I just took my dog out, I'm going back to bed, I hate you, I love you, I hate that I love you.

- Mononoke

I hate that you love him.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 20 @ 5:54 AM ET
Shhh your envy is showing
- stayinthefnnet

Well duhhh
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 20 @ 6:04 AM ET
Also I've now added Yennefer from the Witcher to Aloy from Horizon Zero Dawn on my list of video games crushes
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 20 @ 6:25 AM ET
Also I've now added Yennefer from the Witcher to Aloy from Horizon Zero Dawn on my list of video games crushes
- Giroux_Is_God

You kids need to play outside more

But not on my goddamned lawn!!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 20 @ 6:49 AM ET
You kids need to play outside more

But not on my goddamned lawn!!

- BiggE

Listen Grandpop 2 video game crushes is not even a blip on the radar of some weirdos.

Least I don't rule 34 them
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 20 @ 6:50 AM ET
Listen Grandpop 2 video game crushes is not even a blip on the radar of some weirdos.

Least I don't rule 34 them

- Giroux_Is_God

😂😂

Back in my day we had to play board games, board games I tell ya!! Now this was back in the dark ages, aka the 70s. Now I remember those times sonny, yes I do. It was a fine spring morning. I was riding my pet triceratops and for the life of me I couldn’t recall where I put my favorite hat. Now the missus wanted me to call Pepperidge Farms, because Pepperidge Farm remembers but this is the same woman who once gave the Loch Ness monster tree fitty so I wasn’t gonna pay no never mind to her, no sirree! So anyhow, there I am on my mastodon and did I mention how fine a day it was? Well, it was...hey, where you kids goin? I was just getting to the good part.

Damn kids, no respect for their elders. None at all I tell ya!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 20 @ 7:11 AM ET
Call me spoiled but I want a three line threat back in Philadelphia.

Amonte-Zhamnov-Roenick
LeClair-Handzus-Recchi
Gagne-Primeau-Kapanen
Brashear-Sharp/Lapointe-Radivojevic

Gagne/Prospal-Briere-Knuble
Hartnell-Carter-Upshall
Umberger-Richards-Lupul
Cote-Dowd-Kapanen

Hartnell-Briere-Leino
Gagne-Richards-Carter
JvR-Giroux-Briere
Powe-Betts-Laperriere
Carrillo/Asham

- SuperSchennBros


Why would you be spoiled? All those years were good Flyer years with good looking lineups on paper. Memories can be a tricky thing sometimes. I remember the depth of those teams, but also remember the inconsistencies of scoring at times from all those lineups. The one thing that all 3 lineups have in common? They all went past the 1st round in the playoffs. Other than that, the current team has just as much depth on paper. So welcome to being spoiled again.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 20 @ 7:13 AM ET
😂😂

Back in my day we had to play board games, board games I tell ya!! Now this was back in the dark ages, aka the 70s. Now I remember those times sonny, yes I do. It was a fine spring morning. I was riding my pet triceratops and for the life of me I couldn’t recall where I put my favorite hat. Now the missus wanted me to call Pepperidge Farms, because Pepperidge Farm remembers but this is the same woman who once gave the Loch Ness monster tree fitty so I wasn’t gonna pay no never mind to her, no sirree! So anyhow, there I am on my mastodon and did I mention how fine a day it was? Well, it was...hey, where you kids goin? I was just getting to the good part.

Damn kids, no respect for their elders. None at all I tell ya!

- BiggE


I remember you telling me that story about the time you were busy playing a board game and your mother yelled for you to walk the dinosaur...man feels like yesterday.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 20 @ 7:18 AM ET
Also I've now added Yennefer from the Witcher to Aloy from Horizon Zero Dawn on my list of video games crushes
- Giroux_Is_God


Back in my day we were loyal with our crushes, I only had one Waifu and the name was Q-Bert.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 20 @ 9:00 AM ET
I remember you telling me that story about the time you were busy playing a board game and your mother yelled for you to walk the dinosaur...man feels like yesterday.
- Glak18


Oh yeah, mom was always on my case bout walking the dino and feeding the damn mastodon.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 20 @ 9:05 AM ET
Why would you be spoiled? All those years were good Flyer years with good looking lineups on paper. Memories can be a tricky thing sometimes. I remember the depth of those teams, but also remember the inconsistencies of scoring at times from all those lineups. The one thing that all 3 lineups have in common? They all went past the 1st round in the playoffs. Other than that, the current team has just as much depth on paper. So welcome to being spoiled again.
- Glak18


Yup and a better and more balanced lineup is coming, probably need just one more year and by 19-20, assuming Simmer is moved during the upcomign season for picks/prospects which is the likely return since it will probably be a top contender that is acquiring him, it could look like:

Giroux-Couturier-TK
Ratcliffe or Lindblom-Patrick-Voracek
JVR-Frost-Lindblom or Allison
Laughton-Vorobyev-NAK
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jul 20 @ 9:10 AM ET
Morgan Frost good sir. Morgan Frost.

Might have to wait a year but it’s him, and I think he’s going to give all our jollies a good tingle.

- flyer_nutter


Sorry to bring this up but that last grouping, line 3, G centering JvR... just saying... History there...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 20 @ 9:23 AM ET
Sorry to bring this up but that last grouping, line 3, G centering JvR... just saying... History there...
- cdearth23


True, but Giroux and Couturier just had career years playing on a line together. I don't think it's about whether G plays wing or center as much as it keeping those 2 together on the same line.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 20 @ 9:40 AM ET
True, but Giroux and Couturier just had career years playing on a line together. I don't think it's about whether G plays wing or center as much as it keeping those 2 together on the same line.
- BiggE

How much do you think Konecny brings to that line? Or do you look forward to the coach experimenting?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 20 @ 9:48 AM ET
How much do you think Konecny brings to that line? Or do you look forward to the coach experimenting?
- FlyersGrace


Hard to say as they were just as good, if not better, at the start of the season with Jake on the line. I wouldn't mind experimenting and trying to get 3 lines that can score. I give the following a look in preseason:

Coots-G-Jake
JVR-Patrick-Lindblom
TK-Laughton-Simmonds

You know that first line will score. Lindblom has already shown some good chemistry with Patrick and can play either side. He also helps mitigate JVR being a little weak defensively. Putting TK with his explosiveness and skill on a line with Simmonds and Laughton gives that line a guy that can create offense and that should help bring out the best in the other 2. Plus, you have the added benefit of Simmonds being there to save TK's life when he pisses off the wrong guy, LOL.
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:49 AM ET
SO I was looking at the Flyers depth chart and noticed Noah Cates, the kid they drafted out of high school. I don't remember hearing his name mentioned at the development camp. Anyone know what the word is on his progress???
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:54 AM ET
Hard to say as they were just as good, if not better, at the start of the season with Jake on the line. I wouldn't mind experimenting and trying to get 3 lines that can score. I give the following a look in preseason:

Coots-G-Jake
JVR-Patrick-Lindblom
TK-Laughton-Simmonds

You know that first line will score. Lindblom has already shown some good chemistry with Patrick and can play either side. He also helps mitigate JVR being a little weak defensively. Putting TK with his explosiveness and skill on a line with Simmonds and Laughton gives that line a guy that can create offense and that should help bring out the best in the other 2. Plus, you have the added benefit of Simmonds being there to save TK's life when he pisses off the wrong guy, LOL.

- BiggE


But! But! You cant have TK on the 3rd line! Protests! Protests!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 20 @ 10:00 AM ET
True, but Giroux and Couturier just had career years playing on a line together. I don't think it's about whether G plays wing or center as much as it keeping those 2 together on the same line.
- BiggE

Playing with Couturier will make anyone better. I prefer that they keep Konecny on the RW if they are going to use G and Coots as a pairing. I prefer Jake with JVR, but the two top RW spots are pretty interchangeable.

Before we give the horse a proper burial though...IMO the most balanced, consistent top 9 is marginally equal ice time given out to the following lines:
Lindblom-Patrick-Voracek
Laughton-Coots-Konecny
JVR-Giroux-Simmonds

They can load up the top 6 later in games if they need to with:
Giroux - Coots - Jake/Konecny
JVR - Patrick - Konecny/Jake
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:02 AM ET
Hard to say as they were just as good, if not better, at the start of the season with Jake on the line. I wouldn't mind experimenting and trying to get 3 lines that can score. I give the following a look in preseason:

Coots-G-Jake
JVR-Patrick-Lindblom
TK-Laughton-Simmonds

You know that first line will score. Lindblom has already shown some good chemistry with Patrick and can play either side. He also helps mitigate JVR being a little weak defensively. Putting TK with his explosiveness and skill on a line with Simmonds and Laughton gives that line a guy that can create offense and that should help bring out the best in the other 2. Plus, you have the added benefit of Simmonds being there to save TK's life when he pisses off the wrong guy, LOL.

- BiggE


An interesting take on line combos.

G and Coots chemistry from last year with the already known chemistry with V.

JvR-Patrick-Lindblom would concern me a bit. Yes they may develop a strong cycle game and hopefully possession. Seems like a lot of crash for one line though, unless Patrick develops more confidence with his perimeter shooting. The kid really does have a nice shot and his vision could be useful to play half wall a little bit more because JvR will be parked in front of the net for sure.

I love the line with TK and Simmonds, they showed some chemistry at times last year, while TK stretches the ice and has shown he can be a sniper, all of them are a bit aggressive at times too. Pretty much falls on Laughton for that line, he can skate and at times shown pretty good playmaking ability. Could be a surprise element Flyers haven't seen in a bit.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 20 @ 10:05 AM ET
Playing with Couturier will make anyone better. I prefer that they keep Konecny on the RW if they are going to use G and Coots as a pairing. I prefer Jake with JVR, but the two top RW spots are pretty interchangeable.

Before we give the horse a proper burial though...IMO the most balanced, consistent top 9 is marginally equal ice time given out to the following lines:
Lindblom-Patrick-Voracek
Laughton-Coots-Konecny
JVR-Giroux-Simmonds

They can load up the top 6 later in games if they need to with:
Giroux - Coots - Jake/Konecny
JVR - Patrick - Konecny/Jake

- YuenglingJagr


The thing about the Flyers depth this coming year is the abundance of options. The lines will be changed throughout the year, no such thing as static lines in the NHL. The fact the top 9 can be switched around so much and still look good is very exciting. Not many teams can do that.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 20 @ 10:07 AM ET
But! But! You cant have TK on the 3rd line! Protests! Protests!
- MBFlyerfan

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 20 @ 10:08 AM ET
The thing about the Flyers depth this coming year is the abundance of options. The lines will be changed throughout the year, no such thing as static lines in the NHL. The fact the top 9 can be switched around so much and still look good is very exciting. Not many teams can do that.
- Glak18

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