Lowry is a one-of-a-kind in the Jets organization. The only large bodied physical center we have. Could not afford to lose him.
- bennythehat

Agreed. A fair price to pay. I saw some estimates that were much higher by some of the posters here (some in mid 4's) but the final numbers fell nicely in line with his actual worth.

If Overhardt takes this thing to arbitration and then gets a lower number in the mid to low 5's you have to imagine other Jets who use him like Petan and Copp might begin to squrim at using his services. To this point, I don't think he has represented Trouba and his apparent wishes very well.

Agreed. A fair price to pay. I saw some estimates that were much higher by some of the posters here (some in mid 4's) but the final numbers fell nicely in line with his actual worth.

If Overhardt takes this thing to arbitration and then gets a lower number in the mid to low 5's you have to imagine other Jets who use him like Petan and Copp might begin to squrim at using his services. To this point, I don't think he has represented Trouba and his apparent wishes very well.
- jetsnation

If maximizing the money is the highest priority I think Overhardt may be doing his job well. There doesn't seem to be 'balancing' work/life/community/legacy considerations, things outside of the total career paycheck, on Overhardt's agenda.

If maximizing the money is the highest priority I think Overhardt may be doing his job well. There doesn't seem to be 'balancing' work/life/community/legacy considerations, things outside of the total career paycheck, on Overhardt's agenda.
- 2.0

Personally, I don't feel Overhardt has done a good job even on the financial side. As far as I know , Trouba never got paid for those 18 games he held out on, and then got a pretty low $2.8 AAV for the next 2 years. Reputational damage as well. It backfired on Overharht.

Now he attempting to play hardball with Chevy again likely by not being very flexible and hoping an arbitrator side with his over-inflated beliefs. I don't think it is going to work out very well for Overhardt, or Trouba and his personal wishes. I think the arb guy goes lower over higher. We shall see. I wonder if there is any ego-based vindictiveness in KO's blood from losing the last round.

I do think though that if the arb were to award a high number above $6.5 then Chevy will likely trade Trouba. So once again it will backfire on KO.

Furthermore , just how do you think Chevy is going to react when Overhardt comes back in the future for Petan or Copp. I can guess it won't go well. Some GM's just trade Overhardt clients. They just don't want to deal with him.

I'm still betting on a $6 MM five to six-year contract in the next 24 hours. An arbitrator should award around the amount of $5.6 to 5.7 MM ( and Jets would choose 1 year and do it again in 365 days).

Personally, I don't feel Overhardt has done a good job even on the financial side. As far as I know , Trouba never got paid for those 18 games he held out on, and then got a pretty low $2.8 AAV for the next 2 years. Reputational damage as well. It backfired on Overharht.

Now he attempting to play hardball with Chevy again likely by not being very flexible and hoping an arbitrator side with his over-inflated beliefs. I don't think it is going to work out very well for Overhardt, or Trouba and his personal wishes. I think the arb guy goes lower over higher. We shall see. I wonder if there is any ego-based vindictiveness in KO's blood from losing the last round.

I do think though that if the arb were to award a high number above $6.5 then Chevy will likely trade Trouba. So once again it will backfire on KO.

Furthermore , just how do you think Chevy is going to react when Overhardt comes back in the future for Petan or Copp. I can guess it won't go well. Some GM's just trade Overhardt clients. They just don't want to deal with him.
- jetsnation

KO never really expected to get more than about 2.8m in the last round - it has all been about setting the table for future rounds with Chevy or other GMs. It's all 'show me the money'. Getting traded out is not a backfire, it is just part of the business if the aim is to maximize career earnings.

Petan and Copp don't have nearly as much leverage as Trouba, comparables are a dime a dozen for prospects and 4th line players. There isn't nearly the size of salary window that Trouba has... instead of somewhere between 5.5 and 7.5m the scale is closer to 1m to 1.5 (about 500k window vs 2million window)

The mind boggling salaries are not the fault of the players, GM's, owners or even the agents. It is you and me - we have demonstrated that we are consistently willing to pay whatever price is put out there for the world's best hockey league.

Agreed. A fair price to pay. I saw some estimates that were much higher by some of the posters here (some in mid 4's) but the final numbers fell nicely in line with his actual worth.

If Overhardt takes this thing to arbitration and then gets a lower number in the mid to low 5's you have to imagine other Jets who use him like Petan and Copp might begin to squrim at using his services. To this point, I don't think he has represented Trouba and his apparent wishes very well.
- jetsnation

I thought Lowry would get more but that was also on a 4 or 5 year deal.
Overhardt is a Richard

I thought Lowry would get more but that was also on a 4 or 5 year deal.
Overhardt is a Richard
- Ross77

Richard Head?

I guess another way Overhart earns his money is that by making the fans hate him and direct anger towards him instead of hating his clients for holdouts/contract conflict.

Matt Dumba gets $6MM over 5 years. His 5 vs 5 stats and overall worth to his team are quite similar to Trouba. In addition , he is a decent leader. Very good on the PP , etc. As we saw in the series he can also be quite a physical force as well. Trouba might be a bit better defensively but Dumba is the better offensive player.

IMHO it helps solidify the case of about $6 MM for Trouba. I wonder if the arbitrator will take note of this signing.

If this Trouba thing does in fact end up in a trade next summer or at the draft I absolutely still do not want Myers resigned!!!!! He is a third pair D and will be paid far more than that. As much as it would suck I’d rather trade one of ehlers or Connor ( because we are loaded at left wing ) for an equal aged and talented RH defencemen

I have no problem paying him 7. He is worth more to the jets than what ehlers will make for the next 7 years and that’s 6mil, he is also worth more to the jets for the next 6 years than what wheeler would be over the same time frame. Don’t let your best D go, you won’t get another one so easy.
- Ross77

They won't just let him go....Trouba clearly does not want to be a Jet, so trade him before he walks, and he will if this goes to another 1 year bridge contract. Buff is your best D and he showed that in the playoffs. Niku looks like an absolute stud on the ice, and Poolman is ready for minutes. If a long term deal can be reached with Trouba, great......But given his past contract disputes during his previous contract, and this is shaping to be the same, the writing is on the wall. And for that Ottawa 1st rounder, you would have a reasonable chance at winning Jack Hughes, and I am sure the consolation prize would be just fine as well.

According to EK it looks like Troubs is going to the Islanders. Would it be something if we got Barzal back for him?

According to EK it looks like Troubs is going to the Islanders. Would it be something if we got Barzal back for him?
- TheUltimateJet

Lol, you don’t get Barzal. His value is >> Trouba, and they just lost Tavares at center. Lou is old, but even he wouldn’t do a trade that dumb.

It would be Pulock + a piece or 2.

Lol, you don’t get Barzal. His value is >> Trouba, and they just lost Tavares at center. Lou is old, but even he wouldn’t do a trade that dumb.

It would be Pulock + a piece or 2.
- broc

Adam Larsson got the Devils Taylor Hall, anything is possible. And according to some statisticians, Trouba has great underlying numbers that put him in the same company as Hedman, and Doughty.

Get it done Chevy!!!

According to EK it looks like Troubs is going to the Islanders. Would it be something if we got Barzal back for him?
- TheUltimateJet

..and when is the last time anything Ek said came true. How about...never !

Speaking as a Thrashers fan, (and current Jets fanatic) The Trouba signing has smelled like our experience with Kovalchuk for quite a while now. Kovy said all the right things, demanded a max contract (behind closed doors), and then wouldn't sign when Waddell caved. I didn't blame him. It was a poor organization.You guys in winnipeg have a better handle on the true smell. What does it smell like to you?.....

Speaking as a Thrashers fan, (and current Jets fanatic) The Trouba signing has smelled like our experience with Kovalchuk for quite a while now. Kovy said all the right things, demanded a max contract (behind closed doors), and then wouldn't sign when Waddell caved. I didn't blame him. It was a poor organization.You guys in winnipeg have a better handle on the true smell. What does it smell like to you?.....
- liverpoolnhl

Smells pretty bad. If Trouba really wanted a longer-term deal with the Jets I would imagine that $5.8-$6 MM would have got it done for say 5 years and then he still had enough time for one more big contract down the road. The arbitrator could rule at any time now and it will end up being a one-year deal for maybe $5.6, so if he truly wanted to stay he wouldn't be gambling like this. It indicates to me that he doesn't want to stay here. Chevy might just accommodate that wish and trade him.

Lol, you don’t get Barzal. His value is >> Trouba, and they just lost Tavares at center. Lou is old, but even he wouldn’t do a trade that dumb.

It would be Pulock + a piece or 2.
- broc

Agree, Barzal is never happening. Pulouck plus Dobson would be fine with me.

They won't just let him go....Trouba clearly does not want to be a Jet, so trade him before he walks, and he will if this goes to another 1 year bridge contract. Buff is your best D and he showed that in the playoffs. Niku looks like an absolute stud on the ice, and Poolman is ready for minutes. If a long term deal can be reached with Trouba, great......But given his past contract disputes during his previous contract, and this is shaping to be the same, the writing is on the wall. And for that Ottawa 1st rounder, you would have a reasonable chance at winning Jack Hughes, and I am sure the consolation prize would be just fine as well.
- bikeguy99

I understand it may end in a Trouba trade but I don’t have to like it. As long as we don’t double down on mistakes and resign Myers I’ll survive.

..and when is the last time anything Ek said came true. How about...never !
- jetsnation

This is true but yet we all go on there to see the rumours

Speaking as a Thrashers fan, (and current Jets fanatic) The Trouba signing has smelled like our experience with Kovalchuk for quite a while now. Kovy said all the right things, demanded a max contract (behind closed doors), and then wouldn't sign when Waddell caved. I didn't blame him. It was a poor organization.You guys in winnipeg have a better handle on the true smell. What does it smell like to you?.....
- liverpoolnhl

Doesn’t smell good, me thinks Trouba can’t wait to be a UFA and pick where he plays. Which is his right so can’t be too upset about it .

Agree, Barzal is never happening. Pulouck plus Dobson would be fine with me.
- Ross77

There’s not a chance in hell we’re trading you a younger, cheaper defenseman that put up better numbers last season on a much worse team that we just signed to a two year contract for two million per PLUS a highly touted first round pick for one year of a defenseman that is a questionable 2/3. Seriously think about that. In what world does that make any sense?

This is true but yet we all go on there to see the rumours
- Ross77

I don't ever read it. Ek's column is pure rubbish with false content designed to draw readers and comments. Its fake news at its best.

There’s not a chance in hell we’re trading you a younger, cheaper defenseman that put up better numbers last season on a much worse team that we just signed to a two year contract for two million per PLUS a highly touted first round pick for one year of a defenseman that is a questionable 2/3. Seriously think about that. In what world does that make any sense?
- Cptmjl

Never said you would take I said I would take it. But thinking Pulouck is better than Trouba is hilarious.

Never said you would take I said I would take it. But thinking Pulouck is better than Trouba is hilarious.
- Ross77

Where did I say he was better? He put up better numbers is what I said which is true and that’s on a team that was historically bad defensively. He’s also signed for two years at an extremely team friendly contract which is what I also said. Pulock is still developing and grew much better as the season went on I doubt he gets traded anywhere for these reasons.

Where did I say he was better? He put up better numbers is what I said which is true and that’s on a team that was historically bad defensively. He’s also signed for two years at an extremely team friendly contract which is what I also said. Pulock is still developing and grew much better as the season went on I doubt he gets traded anywhere for these reasons.
- Cptmjl

And for those reasons is why I said I’d take him but right now him alone is not worth Trouba. Remember this whole “islanders make mega pitch for Trouba” was not started by jets fans. Pulock and a throw in I don’t think would be considered “mega”. Jets don’t need forwards so not sure what islanders would offer then.