Tanner, I need better blog length to song length ratios.

Thank you.

the 2015 and 2016 seasons had nothing to do with chayka

chayka won the 2016 draft, benning the 2017. 2018 is up in the air.

benning just had a disastrous offseason.
- Tumbleweed

Not to mention that the Coyotes traded their first in 2017 (for a goalie who has been the best in the NHL when healthy and a high end second line centre) so comparing them isn't really fair.

Tanner, I need better blog length to song length ratios.

Thank you.
- lastmanback

I will try to do better

I'm sure his intentions weren't first and foremost to move Beagle or Roussel, that's dumb, that's not why he signed them.

He can move other guys like MDZ, Sutter, Edler (maybe), for draft picks. You're using lame excuses. I hate Benning but he's not in a position to win yet so stop trying to hurry things.

Also, the Leafs turned things around when they drafted good players or traded guys like Luke Schenn for JVR, it takes time to acquire good players and build a team, so again, you're full of poop.
- LeftCoaster

build through the draft without draft picks. good plan. mdz has no trade value. one of sutter/edler will probably be injured. it's easy to see how this is going to a typical benning tdl bust.

you need lots of draft picks to draft good players. nobody has figured out the secret formula to predict which 18 year kids will become surefire nhl players.

draft picks are also trade currency. we acquired our starting goalie with extra picks .... without creating a hole in our prospect pool.

Not to mention that the Coyotes traded their first in 2017 (for a goalie who has been the best in the NHL when healthy and a high end second line centre) so comparing them isn't really fair.
- james_tanner1

agreed.

Not to mention that the Coyotes traded their first in 2017 (for a goalie who has been the best in the NHL when healthy and a high end second line centre) so comparing them isn't really fair.
- james_tanner1

You never ever trade your first round pick when you're in rebuild mode, that trade will turn out to be poor as you've now got a 29 year old goaltender on a team that is years away from competing.

Chayka is as big of an idiot as Benning his first few years in that he's trying to be competitive, and failing miserably, when he should be rebuilding.

You never ever trade your first round pick when you're in rebuild mode, that trade will turn out to be poor as you've now got a 29 year old goaltender on a team that is years away from competing.

Chayka is as big of an idiot as Benning his first few years in that he's trying to be competitive, and failing miserably, when he should be rebuilding.
- LeftCoaster

serious? if petersson was passed on, then yeah, that would have been a bad trade.

lias anderson's numbers are a shadow of petersson's. it doesn't seem like they passed on a budding superstar.

build through the draft without draft picks. good plan. mdz has no trade value. one of sutter/edler will probably be injured. it's easy to see how this is going to a typical benning tdl bust.

you need lots of draft picks to draft good players. nobody has figured out the secret formula to predict which 18 year kids will become surefire nhl players.

draft picks are also trade currency. we acquired our starting goalie with extra picks .... without creating a hole in our prospect pool.
- Tumbleweed

(frank) me

2008 - Schenn 5th overall traded for JVR, Leafs had 8 picks.
2009 - Kadri 7th overall, Leafs had 7 picks.
2010 - 2nd last, traded pick away.
2011 - 9th last, traded pick away.
2012 - Rielly 5th overall, Brown 6th rnd, Leafs had 6 picks.
2013 - Gauthier 21st overall, Leafs had 5 picks.
2014 - Nylander 8th overall, Leafs had 6 picks.
2015 - Marner 4th overall, Leafs have 9 picks but only Marner as a regular.
2016 - Matthews 1st overall, Leafs have 11 picks but only AM as a regular.

Your best players have come from drafts where you had anywhere from 5 to 11 picks but only the kids from the very top of the draft except Brown. You're full of poop!!

I agree more picks are better but you're making out like it's impossible without more picks which we can clearly see is false!

Rielly, Brown, Kadri and Nylander were all drafted with seven picks or less than seven picks, a good part of your core group.

serious? if petersson was passed on, then yeah, that would have been a bad trade.

lias anderson's numbers are a shadow of petersson's. it doesn't seem like they passed on a budding superstar.
- Tumbleweed

You have no idea who they'd have pick or how good any of those kids will be...yet.

(frank) me

2008 - Schenn 5th overall traded for JVR, Leafs had 8 picks.
2009 - Kadri 7th overall, Leafs had 7 picks.
2010 - 2nd last, traded pick away.
2011 - 9th last, traded pick away.
2012 - Rielly 5th overall, Brown 6th rnd, Leafs had 6 picks.
2013 - Gauthier 21st overall, Leafs had 5 picks.
2014 - Nylander 8th overall, Leafs had 6 picks.
2015 - Marner 4th overall, Leafs have 9 picks but only Marner as a regular.
2016 - Matthews 1st overall, Leafs have 11 picks but only AM as a regular.

Your best players have come from drafts where you had anywhere from 5 to 11 picks but only the kids from the very top of the draft except Brown. You're full of poop!!

I agree more picks are better but you're making out like it's impossible without more picks which we can clearly see is false!
- LeftCoaster

johnsson, kapanen and dermott will all be full-time nhl players this year. a few more coming up after that.

This (tired) joke really misses the point that the only reason anyone would ever care about stats was so that they could better predict the future.

For example, if you look at expected goals and PDO you don't do things like sign David Clarkson to a huge contract. This is just common sense stuff. If you think the Capitals and Golden Knights are the NHL's two best teams, you will be very shocked next season.
- james_tanner1

Awww muffin.

For sure something missed the point, but it wasn't my joke.

You never ever trade your first round pick when you're in rebuild mode, that trade will turn out to be poor as you've now got a 29 year old goaltender on a team that is years away from competing.

Chayka is as big of an idiot as Benning his first few years in that he's trying to be competitive, and failing miserably, when he should be rebuilding.
- LeftCoaster

That is a misconception. The Coyotes best player is in his prime. The team has drafted early for years. They aren't in the early stages of a rebuild and the timing of that trade was perfect.

You have no idea who they'd have pick or how good any of those kids will be...yet.
- LeftCoaster

one kid tore up the swedish league on a historic level, one kid was decent.

you're saying it was already a mistake to trade away andersson when he as done nothing but look ok.

one kid tore up the swedish league on a historic leve, one kid was decent.

you're saying it was already a mistake to trade away andersson when he as done nothing but look ok.
- Tumbleweed

What was his Gooney-GooHoo %

That is a misconception. The Coyotes best player is in his prime. The team has drafted early for years. They aren't in the early stages of a rebuild and the timing of that trade was perfect.
- james_tanner1

They haven't been drafting early for years? You can look this up on the inter-web you know! Chayka is nothing more than an average GM doing a poopty job and we'll see that in the upcoming years when they're still at the bottom of the league.

In 14 drafts since the lockout they've had THREE top five picks, 2007 Turris, 2015 Strome and 2018 Hayton.

Top seven you can add OEL 6th in 2009 and Keller 7th in 2016.

one kid tore up the swedish league on a historic level, one kid was decent.

you're saying it was already a mistake to trade away andersson when he as done nothing but look ok.
- Tumbleweed

Leafs Andersen? The Leafs were at the end of eight years of rebuilding, it's not even remotely the same situation as the Coyotes.

Leafs Andersen? The Leafs were at the end of eight years of rebuilding, it's not even remotely the same situation as the Coyotes.
- LeftCoaster

rangers drafted l.anderssen with the yotes pick. they knew who was on the board and were okay with trading the pick. trading 1sts without knowing who you might be passing on is a mistake.

one ok prospect for a 2c and a good starting goalie? i mean, hardly a terrible trade.

rangers drafted l.anderssen with the yotes pick. they knew who was on the board and were okay with trading the pick. trading 1sts without knowing who you might be passing on is a mistake.

one ok prospect for a 2c and a good starting goalie? i mean, hardly a terrible trade.
- Tumbleweed

Ok Brian Burke

Ok Brian Burke
- LeftCoaster

chayka>burke>benning

chayka>burke>benning
- Tumbleweed

Seriously though, it was an idiotic trade! They could've drafted Mittelstadt, a great young center, but instead Chayka is of the belief his team is better than it actually is and he wants to be competitive.

You build through the middle. Could've added Mittelstadt to Keller and Chychrun but no he reaches to try and be competitive. You of all people being a Leafs fan should know you just have to be patient and build through the draft or miss on guys like Seguin and Hamilton....game set match

Trading for Raanta could potentially be as bad a trading for Kessel, two good players on teams that aren't in a position to compete while you missed out on an opportunity to draft Seguin or Mittelstadt.

Building takes time!!

What was his Gooney-GooHoo %
- Aetherial

Nice Eddie Murphy "Raw" reference.

Seriously though, it was an idiotic trade! They could've drafted Mittelstadt, a great young center, but instead Chayka is of the belief his team is better than it actually is and he wants to be competitive.

You build through the middle. Could've added Mittelstadt to Keller and Chychrun but no he reaches to try and be competitive. You of all people being a Leafs fan should know you just have to be patient and build through the draft or miss on guys like Seguin and Hamilton....game set match

Trading for Raanta could potentially be as bad a trading for Kessel, two good players on teams that aren't in a position to compete while you missed out on an opportunity to draft Seguin or Mittelstadt.

Building takes time!!
- LeftCoaster

i think the yotes will surprise a lot of people this year. but we'll see.

I think the yotes will surprise a lot of people this year. but we'll see.
- Tumbleweed

Ok Brian Burke

Ok Brian Burke
- LeftCoaster

they're forward group last year was terrible as a whole.

they're bringing in galchenyuk, grabner, hinostroza and strome

to essentially replace domi, reider, martinook and rinaldo

across the board improvement in those moves.

people who don't see that Chayka has done a great job so far are blind. Time will tell how the Domi/Galchenyuk deal will pan out but so far all his moves are pretty good.
- DutchSenators

There's a big difference between saying Chayka has done a good job and calling him the best GM in the NHL.