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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 19 @ 5:53 AM ET
Yeah like he has any chance of making the Sabres... he would have to be the best player on the ice every game in camp... 0% chance of that.


But thanks for the fan of the year!!

- gordong



What ? He's been here 2 years lol

his rookie year and last year when he was hurt lol
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 19 @ 5:55 AM ET
Really?
You’re actually gonna be glad if he doesn’t do well just bc of Gerbe ?

Wow
You’re in the running for “fan of the year”
Congrats

- jdfitz77


It's very strange and he can't talk himself out of that one
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 19 @ 6:11 AM ET
Yeah like he has any chance of making the Sabres... he would have to be the best player on the ice every game in camp... 0% chance of that.


But thanks for the fan of the year!!

- gordong


That’s cool
Keep rooting against Nylander doing well bc u have an issue with Gerbe

Grow up
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 19 @ 6:14 AM ET
Trouba asking for 7 mil, let’s all take a moment to realize how valuable a player Nelson is at 1.625, unreal.

Putin hasn’t found me yet, Russians are dope.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 19 @ 6:14 AM ET
It's very strange and he can't talk himself out of that one
- gerbe75pts


Some ppl take this message board WAY too seriously

I don’t think Thompson is a good prospect
But i sure as hell want him to do as good as possible
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 19 @ 7:15 AM ET
Should be interesting race for a LW slot between
Nylander
Smith
Bailey

And can these guys play the left, Sabres Prospects has them listed on the RW
Olofsson
Pu

Maybe Okposo swtches to LW and an opening is created on the right where they seem to have more talent brewing
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 19 @ 7:25 AM ET
Garth’s blog is amazing, I can’t match his creativity. I give up
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 19 @ 7:31 AM ET
Stimson of The Athletic had a piece that projected likelihood of the propsects making it to the NHL based on a weighted multiplier based on the league they are coming from and their performance in that league...."eNHL"

For the Sabres...

Of the Forwards:
Olofson was rated the highest
Nylander was 7th laging behind,
-Asplund, Davidsson, Smith, O'Reagan, Thompson

Good news for Nylander was he was projected ahead of Bailey, Pu, Baptiste and others.

On D, Pilut was rated the highest followed by Dahlin (the new Skunk) and Guhle

If theses analytics-based projections are more accurate thannot, wow...did fhe Sabres do well in signing Pilut ... especially if Dahlin is the best rated D prospect entering the draft since Denny Potvin.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jul 19 @ 7:44 AM ET
Stimson of The Athletic had a piece that projected likelihood of the propsects making it to the NHL based on a weighted multiplier based on the league they are coming from and their performance in that league...."eNHL"

For the Sabres...

Of the Forwards:
Olofson was rated the highest
Nylander was 7th laging behind,
-Asplund, Davidsson, Smith, O'Reagan, Thompson

Good news for Nylander was he was projected ahead of Bailey, Pu, Baptiste and others.

On D, Pilut was rated the highest followed by Dahlin (the new Skunk) and Guhle

If theses analytics-based projections are more accurate thannot, wow...did fhe Sabres do well in signing Pilut ... especially if Dahlin is the best rated D prospect entering the draft since Denny Potvin.

- IonSabres


Analytics. Not even once.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 19 @ 7:44 AM ET
That’s cool
Keep rooting against Nylander doing well bc u have an issue with Gerbe

Grow up

- jdfitz77


Meh.
Technically he never said he is rooting against Nylander.
He could be like me in believing Nylander will never succeed in the NHL given his
-style of play,
- being a perimeter player
- complete lack of two way game
- disappearences for long stretches...games, not just periods in games

He is proving to be exactly who his scouting reviews said he was.

While I am hoping hard for him to make it and being that LW sniper they so desperately need...I just dont see it. I hope I am ded wrong.

With respect to Gerbe, he is off the charts in his excuse making for Nylander. It really is put up or shut up time for Nylander ... and I dont mean solely making it in the NHL out of camp ... he needs a very, very solid season in the AHL if he is sent down again ... he should have alot of talent around him down there, so all the excuses go away this time around. His stats toward then end of last year, including WJ's point to being a set-up man not a sniper...he may be misfit as a LWer.

I may just laugh at the insane boastfulness myself while I shake my head at the fact the Sabres once again got the wrong brother...lol.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 19 @ 7:45 AM ET
Analytics. Not even once.
- feetontheair22


Look on the brightg side...
If Dahlin is God, maybe Pilut is the Holy Spirit
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 19 @ 8:13 AM ET
Some ppl take this message board WAY too seriously

I don’t think Thompson is a good prospect
But i sure as hell want him to do as good as possible

- jdfitz77


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 19 @ 8:14 AM ET
Stimson of The Athletic had a piece that projected likelihood of the propsects making it to the NHL based on a weighted multiplier based on the league they are coming from and their performance in that league...."eNHL"

For the Sabres...

Of the Forwards:
Olofson was rated the highest
Nylander was 7th laging behind,
-Asplund, Davidsson, Smith, O'Reagan, Thompson

Good news for Nylander was he was projected ahead of Bailey, Pu, Baptiste and others.

On D, Pilut was rated the highest followed by Dahlin (the new Skunk) and Guhle

If theses analytics-based projections are more accurate thannot, wow...did fhe Sabres do well in signing Pilut ... especially if Dahlin is the best rated D prospect entering the draft since Denny Potvin.

- IonSabres


This is dead wrong.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 19 @ 8:15 AM ET
Look on the brightg side...
If Dahlin is God, maybe Pilut is the Holy Spirit

- IonSabres


What if I told you that article was actually scoring comparisons to the NHL instead of likelihood to make the NHL?

And on top of that, the author even admits that the calculations are fundamentally flawed and don't take into account team and division success and style of play. Not to mention age of development. That's like the plus/minus version of calculating NHL equivalent scoring rates.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 19 @ 8:25 AM ET
honestly I have over looked all gerbe posts the last few days to get caught up in fish room

I feel shame



for Ozzy, always thought he should be in the hall of fame

3 cups
led the team for 2 of them

13th all time wins
28th in shutouts


ranks above vernon, fuhr, billy smith, barrasso in pretty much all stats

- homiedclown



Osgood is so mediocre. If they ever let him in, just shut the thing down. It's the hall of fame, not the hall of good
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 19 @ 8:28 AM ET
Did you miss the Gerbe jab?



Also Chris Osgood has been retired for 7 years and not in the HOF with 401 wins.


Discuss

- dadeadhead


.905 save percentage
Never won a vezina.

He was never excellent, he just hung around forever
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 19 @ 8:33 AM ET
With none of the overall team success

Just goes to show it wasn’t really Osgood
He was good...
but when u watched him play,
Did u think “Hall of Famer” or not?

I sure didn’t

I don’t see the difference between him & Corey Crawford or Niemi if he had stayed with the Hawks

Good, but not Great

- jdfitz77

I don't think fuhr was a hall of fame goalie, just happened to have "miller status" and won a bunch of cups

I will be curious if ozzy ever gets in, coin toss and I can see both sides of the coin
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 19 @ 8:33 AM ET
Osgood is so mediocre. If they ever let him in, just shut the thing down. It's the hall of fame, not the hall of good
- jcragcrumple

buttman is in
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 19 @ 8:37 AM ET
buttman is in
- homiedclown

Hecht?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 19 @ 8:40 AM ET

He was never excellent, he just hung around forever

- jcragcrumple

are we talking about Gerbe?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 19 @ 8:41 AM ET
buttman is in
- homiedclown


With a picture of him in Atlanta, I hope
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 19 @ 8:55 AM ET
are we talking about Gerbe?
- homiedclown

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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 19 @ 9:00 AM ET
Meh.
Technically he never said he is rooting against Nylander.
He could be like me in believing Nylander will never succeed in the NHL given his
-style of play,
- being a perimeter player
- complete lack of two way game
- disappearences for long stretches...games, not just periods in games

He is proving to be exactly who his scouting reviews said he was.

While I am hoping hard for him to make it and being that LW sniper they so desperately need...I just dont see it. I hope I am ded wrong.

With respect to Gerbe, he is off the charts in his excuse making for Nylander. It really is put up or shut up time for Nylander ... and I dont mean solely making it in the NHL out of camp ... he needs a very, very solid season in the AHL if he is sent down again ... he should have alot of talent around him down there, so all the excuses go away this time around. His stats toward then end of last year, including WJ's point to being a set-up man not a sniper...he may be misfit as a LWer.

I may just laugh at the insane boastfulness myself while I shake my head at the fact the Sabres once again got the wrong brother...lol.

- IonSabres



He’s getting his muscles back

seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:08 AM ET
honestly I am not sure any sabre other then Jack knows his roll on this team
- homiedclown


if Nolan was still our coach everyone would know their role...
"Work hard."

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 19 @ 9:15 AM ET
What if I told you that article was actually scoring comparisons to the NHL instead of likelihood to make the NHL?

And on top of that, the author even admits that the calculations are fundamentally flawed and don't take into account team and division success and style of play. Not to mention age of development. That's like the plus/minus version of calculating NHL equivalent scoring rates.

- TheSabresTaco


Ok, however...
Article Title:
"The Sabres Prospect most likely to make the jump to the big club next season"

Quote in 2nd paragraph:
"Today I’m going to take a deep dive into comparing the rates of scoring among the Buffalo Sabres’ prospects and assess which players are most likely to make a successful jump to the big club next season."

Furthermore, the metric used were based on previous NHL players, what league they came from, their production in those leagues. Then using that as a baseline to project which prospect best line-up as LIKELY to succeed.

Nothing is guaranteed, and you are coreect in that it doesnt account for team needs/openings, style of play.
Of course, those can change rapidly and can be outdated when systems and coaches change and when GM's make trades.
Well, no crap.

No analytics are perfect, none....i never said this was accurate nor guaranteed...they are projections.
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