Was more to it than just picking one over the other. Chara wanted to be captain and Alfie wasn't going anywhere. Also, Redden wasn't some scrub, he was chosen by team Canada to play in the Olympics. Obviously I wish we had kept Chara, but hindsight is 20/20.
- forbetterorWORSE

Redden was fantastic during the regular season. Disappeared in the playoffs though. I always thought that they could only fit one or the other under the cap. Didn't realize Chara was demanding the C if he stayed...

I miss Curtis Lazar, Shane Prince, Stefan Noessen and the ludicrous expectations the fan base had for them. Thankfully, plenty of over-hyped guys in the pipeline - Colin White, Logan Brown, Filip Chlapík, Drake Batherson, Alex Formenton

I miss Curtis Lazar, Shane Prince, Stefan Noessen and the ludicrous expectations the fan base had for them. Thankfully, plenty of over-hyped guys in the pipeline - Colin White, Logan Brown, Filip Chlapík, Drake Batherson, Alex Formenton
- grim

lazar was a bust....no doubt

prince was never really that highly thought of

noessen was traded away before playing a single game, then had a serious injury that nearly cost him his career. not surprising that it had an impact on his abilities moving forward.

other than spatso, I haven't heard a single person overhype a single of the new prospects you mentioned. the only "can't miss" prospect in Ottawa's system before this year was Chabot.

He's no Andreas Dackell.
- jmatchett383

Alexandre Daigle.

Trevor Shackles: Players That We Miss
Looking back at Senators players that we miss
- Trevor Shackles

Hasek?

Yashin

Alexandre Daigle.
- Jere

I get that Daigle never lived up to the hype, but i'll never understand why he's considered one of the biggest busts ever....guy had like 330 pts in 600 games.

no, it's not elite production, but WAAAYYY better than other guys taken that high.

I think the guy was unfairly judged.

bust - yes
biggest bust ever - not even close

I get that Daigle never lived up to the hype, but i'll never understand why he's considered one of the biggest busts ever....guy had like 330 pts in 600 games.

no, it's not elite production, but WAAAYYY better than other guys taken that high.

I think the guy was unfairly judged.

bust - yes
biggest bust ever - not even close
- sensarmy_11

Name a worse 1st overall.

And Stefan and DiPietro don't count due to injuries.

Name a worse 1st overall.

And Stefan and DiPietro don't count due to injuries.
- Atomic Wedgie

Chris Phillips?

Chris Phillips?
- david22

Just a matter of time until Yakupov tops the list, but according to the rules of the Hockeybust Hall of Fame, you have to have left the NHL and played three years in Europe before becoming eligible.

Just a matter of time until Yakupov tops the list, but according to the rules of the Hockeybust Hall of Fame, you have to have left the NHL and played three years in Europe before becoming eligible.
- Atomic Wedgie

Well, it's obviously going to be Nail, but if not... Doug Wickenheiser, maybe?

Doesn't matter, Daigle is the biggest bust because of expectations, not where he was drafted. Even though they were no. 1s, I doubt anyone expected Chris Phillips or Patrik Stefan to be MVP-calibre players.

Mike Fisher. (and the wife)

Patrick Lalime

I get that Daigle never lived up to the hype, but i'll never understand why he's considered one of the biggest busts ever....guy had like 330 pts in 600 games.

no, it's not elite production, but WAAAYYY better than other guys taken that high.

I think the guy was unfairly judged.

bust - yes
biggest bust ever - not even close
- sensarmy_11

It was because of the expectations. I remember reading articles where it was thought if developed right, he could be another Gretzky.... I think that's a bit crazy.

But The expectation is that he was going to be a point a game player or better.

Then it came out that he admitted to not even really liking hockey and then all the other stuff, kind of ruined his image. Plus he did okay points wise but in no way lived up to expectations.

Well, it's obviously going to be Nail, but if not... Doug Wickenheiser, maybe?

Doesn't matter, Daigle is the biggest bust because of expectations, not where he was drafted. Even though they were no. 1s, I doubt anyone expected Chris Phillips or Patrik Stefan to be MVP-calibre players.
- Mr_Clean

Looking at the draft years, Phillips' was pretty weak. Frig, Pronger and Kariya were picked after Daigle!

As a leaf fan I couldn't stand Chris Neil.
He was the heart and sole of the sens for many years.

- B-Wforever

- Not_Yan

What's up, do you think there's something fishy about that post?

Looking at the draft years, Phillips' was pretty weak. Frig, Pronger and Kariya were picked after Daigle!
- mgriffen

Yeah, that's where it hurt. Daigle, Phillips, Berard. Sad part is Daigle was a consensus #1, so getting to draft #1 was a curse that year.

The Phillips year was a gong-show of a top-ten - who could forget the stellar careers of J.P. Dumont, Ric Jackman, and Boyd Devereaux? Berard would have been pretty good, if not for injuries - might have taken Doan or Iginla and been better off, but otherwise the top 5 was Redden (got him anyways), Aki Berg, Chad Kilger, and Daymond Langkow... Not exactly stacked.

Double

Should the Tampa Bay Lighting trade Sergachev?

If we are Stevie Y, we know that cap managing is going to be essential moving forward. The team already has $53m tied up for 20-21. Both goalies need new contracts with AV likely getting north of 7m per season. Karlsson if moved there will be a 9.5-10.5 cap hit. Sergachev is an RFA and will be MUCH higher than his 0.9 against the cap he is now. So the be benefit of not trading him is having him for 2 seasons (with EK, Hedman, & McDonagh) EASILY the best top 4 on the back end in years. But after that you have to resign him and will have lost Foote++.

Keeping Stralman over Sergachev would allow Tampa to retain Foote (who would be on entry level for 3 years AFTER Stralman plays in that right side of the top 4). It would be a nice transition and wouldn't mean Tampa has to give other prospects. Here is the package (or something like it) if Sergachev isn't moved:

Package of 2 NHL D-men and 2 good D-prospects along with Raddysh; not to mention the package will likely include a Palat or Johnson in place

D Anton Stralman
D Braydon Coburn
F Taylor Raddysh
D Cal Foote
D Libor Hajek

Thoughts?

Redden was fantastic during the regular season. Disappeared in the playoffs though. I always thought that they could only fit one or the other under the cap. Didn't realize Chara was demanding the C if he stayed...
- mgriffen

Not sure he demanded the captaincy, but I think it was known he wanted to be the leader he felt he was. Redden was never the same after he lost his mother. Can't say I blame him.

Redden was never the same after he lost his mother. Can't say I blame him.
- forbetterorWORSE

Was that before or after the 'white powder' addiction? Not trying to be sarcastic here, there were rumours at the time that he and a certain (now passed away) goalie had a mutual liking to coke. Not the liquid kind.

Spezza will always be my most player player. Never really got the respect he deserved in his prime. Overshadowed by Heatley and Alfie. Then went on to just be a scapegoat on a talent regressing team.

Chara and Fisher then come to mind.

I miss Curtis Lazar, Shane Prince, Stefan Noessen and the ludicrous expectations the fan base had for them. Thankfully, plenty of over-hyped guys in the pipeline - Colin White, Logan Brown, Filip Chlapík, Drake Batherson, Alex Formenton
- grim

I actually agree with this post (outside White & Batherson).

Batherson is a diamond in the rough but its still not assured he'll be the same in the NHL. With White, he will play 100s of NHL games and at a high level. Whether he's a 2nd liner player or hits his ceiling is still TBD

Spezza will always be my most player player. Never really got the respect he deserved in his prime. Overshadowed by Heatley and Alfie. Then went on to just be a scapegoat on a talent regressing team.

Chara and Fisher then come to mind.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Spezza for me too. Honourable mention to Marian Hossa, who was my favourite Sen for a while back in the day (though he wasn't around as long) and then went on to be my favourite non-Senator for many years.