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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 18 @ 1:55 PM ET


WHAT A SNIPE!!!

Edit: Great keep by Krajicek.

- jmatchett383

I completely forgot that they had that goal "taken away" too
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 18 @ 1:58 PM ET
we wouldn't have to worry about a 3C if we just traded for Barzal when I said we should
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 18 @ 2:03 PM ET
we wouldn't have to worry about a 3C if we just traded for Barzal when I said we should
- YuenglingJagr


Before we slipped in the standings and ended up with the 7th pick, Barzal was my number 1 or 2 draft target. Even after getting Provy, I still wanted them to trade up to get Barzal. As much as I like TK, I would have absolutely traded him straight up for MB.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 18 @ 2:05 PM ET
Just one time, I would like for some of those people who tell shoot on the pp to come down to ice level to see from the player's perspective.

If there's no lane, it's off the guys shin pads and he's prob gone the other way for a shortie. Very frustrating.

- Hextall271


Actually I'd love them to see it from the behind the goal on the opposite end of the ice from where they are set up. I sit behind the Flyers defensive zone for the first and third periods. As they yell shoot so many times I can clearly see it will go off a guys shin pads and cause an odd man rush the other way. Everyone around me just laughs after the next whistle at the idiots shouting shoot.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 18 @ 2:10 PM ET
Would carter Hutton have been an upgrade?
Bernier?

Would Nashville, Florida, San Jose, avs, Columbus trade either of their goalies? If so at what cost ? Are they an upgrade over the flyers starters?

- rinaldo


First off, neither one mentioned is available. I know your argument will be "but the Flyers COULD have signed them". Both players would probably disagree.

Knock out the easy one first. Bernier, not even an upgrade over Mrzrek.

Carter Hutton is 32 years old and had a really good season filling in for Jake Allen. A whopping 930 S%, yup stats and more stats. While playing on a NON-playoff team. Then again Elliot put up the same and better numbers while playing in St. Louis. Upgrade, not really.

Nashville...not trading Rinne. Then again here's a guy that I heard many say could be one of the worst in the league after a couple down years. Now many would love to have him again. Saros is 100% no as well, Nashville looks at him as a future. Neither is available unless the Flyers give major assets.

Florida...No to all. None of them help the Flyers. Nope not even old man Luongo.

San Jose...Obviously Martin Jones is unavailable with NTC. Dell would be nice if multiple goalies got injuried, but no upgrade there.

Colorado...Varlamov would be an upgrade at a premium cost for 1 year. Then again Sakic has already come out and said he wants both him and Grubs to share the nets.

Columbus...Bob the goalie, interesting. Super expensive, but multiple Vezina winner. Then you add the fact Columbus would want Hart++ for a possible rental who will want a raise. Bob would be an upgrade if the Flyers window for winning was the next 2 years, because after that they would have to give up a lot of future to get him while hoping to re-sign him. Who would be Columbus new goaltender? They are built to start winning now and won't be taking Elliott or Neurvirth in exchange. The percentage of Bob getting trading is about as close as Eklund having a blog without spelling mistakes.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 18 @ 2:11 PM ET
I don't think frost is ready to centre that line. Again, I think it depends on what the team feels he can learn at the nhl vice the ahl. Tk scored 28 pts on the wing which we agree is easier to adjust to, and I never thought he was out of place. Just learning. I was fine with that contribution and he wasn't a d liability. Let's say frost can score 28 pts, and be a decent 2 way centre who improves as the year progresses.. would that suffice? I think it would.

Also, what point threshold does he need to attain in your mind? Not 40 so 30? 35?

- Hextall271



The threshold is exactly what I said it was. He needs to show both that he is an upgrade over other choices at this point of his development and convince them that he can handle the grind of an NHL season physically. I think the chances of him making the team are low but not impossible. I think it's far more likely that he goes back to juniors.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
Actually I'd love them to see it from the behind the goal on the opposite end of the ice from where they are set up. I sit behind the Flyers defensive zone for the first and third periods. As they yell shoot so many times I can clearly see it will go off a guys shin pads and cause an odd man rush the other way. Everyone around me just laughs after the next whistle at the idiots shouting shoot.
- dragonoffrost


Clearly haven't seen it from that perspective nor played. Funny thing is, we've normally had a solid pp in recent times. They know what they're doing. Let it be.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
Depends. Do you think Frost will be able to handle David Krejci in a fight?
- jmatchett383


He could take Semin all day every day.
Shafe5858
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.05.2018

Jul 18 @ 2:14 PM ET
Hey Bill love your podcasts but the Bundy & Bill Podcast sounds like you guys are talking with trash cans over your heads sometimes. I'm assuming Chris is calling in. Had a really hard time understanding Carter Hart at points. Do you see taking that podcast to another recording platform?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:18 PM ET
First off, neither one mentioned is available. I know your argument will be "but the Flyers COULD have signed them". Both players would probably disagree.

Knock out the easy one first. Bernier, not even an upgrade over Mrzrek.

Carter Hutton is 32 years old and had a really good season filling in for Jake Allen. A whopping 930 S%, yup stats and more stats. While playing on a NON-playoff team. Then again Elliot put up the same and better numbers while playing in St. Louis. Upgrade, not really.

Nashville...not trading Rinne. Then again here's a guy that I heard many say could be one of the worst in the league after a couple down years. Now many would love to have him again. Saros is 100% no as well, Nashville looks at him as a future. Neither is available unless the Flyers give major assets.

Florida...No to all. None of them help the Flyers. Nope not even old man Luongo.

San Jose...Obviously Martin Jones is unavailable with NTC. Dell would be nice if multiple goalies got injuried, but no upgrade there.

Colorado...Varlamov would be an upgrade at a premium cost for 1 year. Then again Sakic has already come out and said he wants both him and Grubs to share the nets.

Columbus...Bob the goalie, interesting. Super expensive, but multiple Vezina winner. Then you add the fact Columbus would want Hart++ for a possible rental who will want a raise. Bob would be an upgrade if the Flyers window for winning was the next 2 years, because after that they would have to give up a lot of future to get him while hoping to re-sign him. Who would be Columbus new goaltender? They are built to start winning now and won't be taking Elliott or Neurvirth in exchange. The percentage of Bob getting trading is about as close as Eklund having a blog without spelling mistakes.

- Glak18

Neither is available hence why I said would
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 18 @ 2:23 PM ET
Neither is available hence why I said would
- rinaldo


Well I would make trades for McDavid and Crosby then get Ovechkin and Kane. Obviously go re-sign Brodeur in his prime and have Eddie Belfour back him up. Need some grit so add Chelios to the 3rd pairing to play with Mark Howe and go get Coffey as the 7th.

This game is fun.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:23 PM ET
First off, neither one mentioned is available. I know your argument will be "but the Flyers COULD have signed them". Both players would probably disagree.

Knock out the easy one first. Bernier, not even an upgrade over Mrzrek.

Carter Hutton is 32 years old and had a really good season filling in for Jake Allen. A whopping 930 S%, yup stats and more stats. While playing on a NON-playoff team. Then again Elliot put up the same and better numbers while playing in St. Louis. Upgrade, not really.

Nashville...not trading Rinne. Then again here's a guy that I heard many say could be one of the worst in the league after a couple down years. Now many would love to have him again. Saros is 100% no as well, Nashville looks at him as a future. Neither is available unless the Flyers give major assets.

Florida...No to all. None of them help the Flyers. Nope not even old man Luongo.

San Jose...Obviously Martin Jones is unavailable with NTC. Dell would be nice if multiple goalies got injuried, but no upgrade there.

Colorado...Varlamov would be an upgrade at a premium cost for 1 year. Then again Sakic has already come out and said he wants both him and Grubs to share the nets.

Columbus...Bob the goalie, interesting. Super expensive, but multiple Vezina winner. Then you add the fact Columbus would want Hart++ for a possible rental who will want a raise. Bob would be an upgrade if the Flyers window for winning was the next 2 years, because after that they would have to give up a lot of future to get him while hoping to re-sign him. Who would be Columbus new goaltender? They are built to start winning now and won't be taking Elliott or Neurvirth in exchange. The percentage of Bob getting trading is about as close as Eklund having a blog without spelling mistakes.

- Glak18

Where do you rank the flyers goalies league wide? 1-31
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 18 @ 2:24 PM ET
Where do you rank the flyers goalies league wide? 1-31
- rinaldo



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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:25 PM ET
The interest is Buzzgate 2018-2019 is quite exciting. So far we have :

Opeth_Pa
BiggE
FlyersGrace
Jmatchett383
Glak18
Cdearth23
Scoob
Johndewar
Wcorvette
Bulet13
Missingmike
WhirlingDervish
Stayintheffnet
Nutter
Meltz - has stated would try to stop by at some point!

Thought I saw a glimpse of Arichardson but maybe he deleted the post. Forgive me if I incorrectly spelt a username, or forgot someone - PM's are ideal as posts are sometimes missed.

Plans or feelings may change, so no hard feelings but the initial response is promising! Take care all.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:27 PM ET
Well I would make trades for McDavid and Crosby then get Ovechkin and Kane. Obviously go re-sign Brodeur in his prime and have Eddie Belfour back him up. Need some grit so add Chelios to the 3rd pairing to play with Mark Howe and go get Coffey as the 7th.

This game is fun.

- Glak18

I get it u like the flyers goalies. Your content with them this year.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:28 PM ET
The interest is Buzzgate 2018-2019 is quite exciting. So far we have :

Opeth_Pa
BiggE
FlyersGrace
Jmatchett383
Glak18
Cdearth23
Scoob
Johndewar
Wcorvette
Bulet13
Missingmike
WhirlingDervish
Stayintheffnet
Nutter
Meltz - has stated would try to stop by at some point!

Thought I saw a glimpse of Arichardson but maybe he deleted the post. Forgive me if I incorrectly spelled a username, or forgot someone - PM's are ideal as posts are sometimes missed.

Plans or feelings may change, so no hard feelings but the initial response is promising! Take care all.

- flyer_nutter

Why are you excluding my name
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:30 PM ET
Why are you excluding my name
- rinaldo


At the end of the day all are welcome but the antagonizing nature of some of your posts yesterday but more so the comment about "never know who could go postal at an event like this" - or something like that, makes me not take you very seriously.

That comment is a really (frank)ed up thing to say.

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:32 PM ET
Why are you excluding my name
- rinaldo

Did your parents sign the permission slip?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 18 @ 2:32 PM ET
I completely forgot that they had that goal "taken away" too
- YuenglingJagr


der terk err gerl
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:33 PM ET
At the end of the day all are welcome but the antagonizing nature of some of your posts yesterday but more so the comment about "never know who could go postal at an event like this" - or something like that, makes me not take you very seriously.

That comment is a really (frank)ed up thing to say.

- flyer_nutter

Is what it is; I will make sure all have a good time
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:34 PM ET
Did your parents sign the permission slip?
- hereticpride

Don’t have any parents. Next
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 18 @ 2:35 PM ET
I get it u like the flyers goalies. Your content with them this year.
- rinaldo


Actually I don't like the Flyers goaltending situation, but there are no other options at the moment that makes this team better.

How about this, you contact Kekalainen in Columbus. Tell him you will have a trade available for Bobrovsky for Neurvirth + 2019 3rd round while retaining 15% of Bob's salary. Get it done and I will personally guarantee I will have Ron Hextall shake your hand and let you "beat the piss out of him".

Deal?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
Actually I don't like the Flyers goaltending situation, but there are no other options at the moment that makes this team better.

How about this, you contact Kekalainen in Columbus. Tell him you will have a trade available for Bobrovsky for Neurvirth + 2019 3rd round while retaining 15% of Bob's salary. Get it done and I will personally guarantee I will have Ron Hextall shake your hand and let you "beat the piss out of him".

Deal?

- Glak18

Come on man to say their are no options to male them better is incorrect. You may not want to pay the price to get one; that’s the difference.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 18 @ 2:38 PM ET
The interest is Buzzgate 2018-2019 is quite exciting. So far we have :

Opeth_Pa
BiggE
FlyersGrace
Jmatchett383
Glak18
Cdearth23
Scoob
Johndewar
Wcorvette
Bulet13
Missingmike
WhirlingDervish
Stayintheffnet
Nutter
Meltz - has stated would try to stop by at some point!

Thought I saw a glimpse of Arichardson but maybe he deleted the post. Forgive me if I incorrectly spelt a username, or forgot someone - PM's are ideal as posts are sometimes missed.

Plans or feelings may change, so no hard feelings but the initial response is promising! Take care all.

- flyer_nutter


I think we need MoAT there to ensure that Buzzgate 3.0 makes Buzzgate 2.0 looks like child's play. Apparently, there was of drunken nonsense and property damage last time. We need to really up the game this time around.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:38 PM ET
The interest is Buzzgate 2018-2019 is quite exciting. So far we have :

Opeth_Pa
BiggE
FlyersGrace
Jmatchett383
Glak18
Cdearth23
Scoob
Johndewar
Wcorvette
Bulet13
Missingmike
WhirlingDervish
Stayintheffnet
Nutter
Meltz - has stated would try to stop by at some point!

Thought I saw a glimpse of Arichardson but maybe he deleted the post. Forgive me if I incorrectly spelt a username, or forgot someone - PM's are ideal as posts are sometimes missed.

Plans or feelings may change, so no hard feelings but the initial response is promising! Take care all.

- flyer_nutter


You saw correctly! It was way earlier in the thread, easy to lose. 👍🏻
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