The Smokehouse
- bobbyisno1

Which town?

If i said that sure. But i didnt.
All i said is if the raps trade kawhi to LA and receive a "middle ground" (your words) package worse than what they traded to get kawhi.
Then they lose.

Bananas.
- Fakepartofme

Why do they lose? You don’t think there’s a chance that what San Antonio asked from LA was overreaching?

If Toronto agrees to a lesser package which is objectively more reasonable, why is it automatically a loss?

Which town?
- Fakepartofme

Brighton

Sure why not? As fans we were told "oh we can't win cause of Lebron" well now he's in the West and this year you started hearing "Well the celtics..." so same story. He had to go all in this time.
- Aaron_85

The raps couldn't get far the past 4 years in the playoffs.
Masai made big changes. Gotta respect that.

Ok Dubas, back to you...lets keep this going.
What star are you gonna bring in now?

The raps couldn't get far the past 4 years in the playoffs.
Masai made big changes. Gotta respect that.

Ok Dubas, back to you...lets keep this going.
What star are you gonna bring in now?
- Fakepartofme

Oh I respect it. Had to do something.

Dubas is going to sign Nylander and Matthews to contracts which is like bringing in a big player.

Oh I respect it. Had to do something.

Dubas is going to sign Nylander and Matthews to contracts which is like bringing in a big player.
- Aaron_85

Ok
That will work

Why do they lose? You don’t think there’s a chance that what San Antonio asked from LA was overreaching?

If Toronto agrees to a lesser package which is objectively more reasonable, why is it automatically a loss?
- Nastradamus

Derozen didn't step up when he was supposed to, bye

Derozen didn't step up when he was supposed to, bye
- bobbyisno1

Agreed there, definitely time for a change

Agreed there, definitely time for a change
- Nastradamus

It's not like he's a kid, time to show your mettle.

Ugh Raps what are you doing.
- Fakepartofme

Raptors doing a UG acquiring Karlsson logic play parallel... he's the best player available ... and even though we won't be able to afford him next year... we have to get him now because of taxes or pajamas or something

You're a phony. You deserve a permaban.
- Unholy_Troalie

OHOH

You're a phony. You deserve a permaban.
- Unholy_Troalie

Since we're all letting it hang out...I'll join that party!

Trouba is gonna get paid or he's gonna GTFO.
- Scabeh

Trouba might still want out and Winnipeg does have cap problems next year. Not the same tier but maybe a good fit for less plus keep Nylander. Gardiner can take a hike for all I care.
- dwoo33


this would be a much less damaging option for the Leafs to consider... moving Gardiner + for Trouba if his contractual situation is ugly (we'll know more later this week)...

and don't have to give up Nylander and and and to get him....

Gardiner is going to want to get paid if he has another 50+ point season.... and moving him at the deadline could be problematic.

Karlssion will want Doughty money... and however you want to slice it that would be too much tied up in 4-5 players.


my post from last night before some blathering idiot was blathering on about how the Leafs should do anything trade anyone to get Karlsson.

here's the logic (breath deep before you blather out another nonsensical response)....

Trouba won't cost as much to acquire as Karlsson
Trouba would address a pretty well recognized gap in the Leafs lineup
Trouba isn't as offensively gifted as Karlsson - but that is not what the Leafs as badly
Trouba won't cost 11M$ against the CAP

Trouba is not as old as Karlsson

just a thought... 'cause you know that the Taxes in Ontario will be the deciding factor.
and pajamas.

Oh I respect it. Had to do something.

Dubas is going to sign Nylander and Matthews to contracts which is like bringing in a big player.
- Aaron_85

I was wondering whether Dubas might come out of July... at the end of the RFA review period... wtih contracts for all three guys... and with Tavares signed.

that would have to be considered a pretty good start to his GM career, contract certainty

Trouba might still want out and Winnipeg does have cap problems next year. Not the same tier but maybe a good fit for less plus keep Nylander. Gardiner can take a hike for all I care.
- dwoo33


this would be a much less damaging option for the Leafs to consider... moving Gardiner + for Trouba if his contractual situation is ugly (we'll know more later this week)...

and don't have to give up Nylander and and and to get him....

Gardiner is going to want to get paid if he has another 50+ point season.... and moving him at the deadline could be problematic.

Karlssion will want Doughty money... and however you want to slice it that would be too much tied up in 4-5 players.


my post from last night before some blathering idiot was blathering on about how the Leafs should do anything trade anyone to get Karlsson.

here's the logic (breath deep before you blather out another nonsensical response)....

Trouba won't cost as much to acquire as Karlsson
Trouba would address a pretty well recognized gap in the Leafs lineup
Trouba isn't as offensively gifted as Karlsson - but that is not what the Leafs as badly
Trouba won't cost 11M$ against the CAP

Trouba is not as old as Karlsson

just a thought... 'cause you know that the Taxes in Ontario will be the deciding factor.
and pajamas.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Oh my....

Trouba might still want out and Winnipeg does have cap problems next year. Not the same tier but maybe a good fit for less plus keep Nylander. Gardiner can take a hike for all I care.
- dwoo33


this would be a much less damaging option for the Leafs to consider... moving Gardiner + for Trouba if his contractual situation is ugly (we'll know more later this week)...

and don't have to give up Nylander and and and to get him....

Gardiner is going to want to get paid if he has another 50+ point season.... and moving him at the deadline could be problematic.

Karlssion will want Doughty money... and however you want to slice it that would be too much tied up in 4-5 players.


my post from last night before some blathering idiot was blathering on about how the Leafs should do anything trade anyone to get Karlsson.

here's the logic (breath deep before you blather out another nonsensical response)....

Trouba won't cost as much to acquire as Karlsson
Trouba would address a pretty well recognized gap in the Leafs lineup
Trouba isn't as offensively gifted as Karlsson - but that is not what the Leafs as badly
Trouba won't cost 11M$ against the CAP

Trouba is not as old as Karlsson

just a thought... 'cause you know that the Taxes in Ontario will be the deciding factor.
and pajamas.
- BorjeFan4Ever

You should ask Eklund for your 100$ for that blog.

Trouba might still want out and Winnipeg does have cap problems next year. Not the same tier but maybe a good fit for less plus keep Nylander. Gardiner can take a hike for all I care.
- dwoo33


this would be a much less damaging option for the Leafs to consider... moving Gardiner + for Trouba if his contractual situation is ugly (we'll know more later this week)...

and don't have to give up Nylander and and and to get him....

Gardiner is going to want to get paid if he has another 50+ point season.... and moving him at the deadline could be problematic.

Karlssion will want Doughty money... and however you want to slice it that would be too much tied up in 4-5 players.


my post from last night before some blathering idiot was blathering on about how the Leafs should do anything trade anyone to get Karlsson.

here's the logic (breath deep before you blather out another nonsensical response)....

Trouba won't cost as much to acquire as Karlsson
Trouba would address a pretty well recognized gap in the Leafs lineup
Trouba isn't as offensively gifted as Karlsson - but that is not what the Leafs as badly
Trouba won't cost 11M$ against the CAP

Trouba is not as old as Karlsson

just a thought... 'cause you know that the Taxes in Ontario will be the deciding factor.
and pajamas.
- BorjeFan4Ever

The guy likes karlsson. What can you do.

I completely apologize for that.
I really thought at the time we needed Karlsson at ALL COST.

But I now see the error of my ways. Although Karlsson is great offensively, he's not worth the $11mm cap hit and not worth losing Nylander, Gardiner and a 1st round pick.

I'd like to apologize to everyone that had to read my nonsense. And I'd like to thank Bruce and .OHOH. for helping me see the error of my ways.


- Unholy-Goalie

Wasn't he the guy the Spurs had to get a 2nd opinion to try and force him to play because he kept claiming he was injured despite what the team's doctors were saying?
- Scabeh

Raps gonna get Vince Cartered again?

Which is kind of stupid of them with Karlsson being available. They have a really great chance to fill that last major hole they need to fill. Another chance like that doesn't come around every day.

That being said, if Karlsson ends up in Tampa Bay, they're going to have to do twice the work to make up the difference. Tampa Bay's defense is already better as it is, adding Karlsson would be incredibly hard to compete with every year.

If they can't get Karlsson, Pietrangelo should be on their radar immediately.
- Unholy_Goalie

Only so much puck to go around.

I am not so sure that fit with Tampa is ideal.

The guy likes karlsson. What can you do.
- Fakepartofme

I like Karlsson as well... but I don't feel compelled to say it repeatedly for about four hours a day...

I repeated myself on the Trouba opportunity twice I believe .. .that's a bit of overkill from my perspective, 'cause it is just my opinion.

I guess I have to find myself a set of those magic pajamas. or drugs ... or mold in my parents basement..

Raps gonna get Vince Cartered again?
- LeafGuy89

No, they are going to get Alonzo Mourning'd again.

You should ask Eklund for your 100$ for that blog.
- Scabeh

apologies... just trying to get into the "pajama master spirit" that seems to be permeating this blog

I like Karlsson as well... but I don't feel compelled to say it repeatedly for about four hours a day...

I repeated myself on the Trouba opportunity twice I believe .. .that's a bit of overkill from my perspective, 'cause it is just my opinion.

I guess I have to find myself a set of those magic pajamas. or drugs ... or mold in my parents basement..
- BorjeFan4Ever

You gonna mold?
Into what?

You gonna mold?
Into what?
- bobbyisno1

was thinking about "pajama boy"... but on further reflection a bird of prey would be preferable...
then I could chase that Gull dude around