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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 17 @ 12:58 PM ET
I can't see that happening to be honest, trading for him works out for Tampa because they can move money out to make room for him. Just trying to take on a Karlsson sized contract $11-$12 per season is basically impossible. Tampa will have enough cap trouble as is without adding in Karlsson.
- Maverick1818


Uh, so what you are saying is that they can move out money now... but it is impossible to move it out later.

Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jul 17 @ 1:00 PM ET
Sam Bennett on the trade block, EK you are smacking a hornets nest with this one. I brought up the idea of Calgary trading the under achiever in a recent Flames blog and the Calgary fans all went snakey on me. Better check underneath your seat before you start your car going forward.
- Holy_Makinaw99


They will trade him to MTL and like it
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 17 @ 1:01 PM ET
Erik Karlsson
627 GP 126 Goals 392 Assists 518 Points
11-12 Norris
14-15 Norris

Jake Gardiner
489 GP 42 goals 173 Assists 215 Points
0 Norris Tophies

Oh Yeah and they are both 28 years old.

- Maverick1818


10 or 11 million for 8 years of a guy who has had serious injuries and is horrific in his own end.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 17 @ 1:02 PM ET
Please tell me the one with the apple on his head was Uggy!
- .OHOH.


no no no no no, the fact that he is on the ice for more even strength goals against than for, is misleading. He just had a whole career of bad luck where the other team scored just as he was stepping off the ice.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 17 @ 1:03 PM ET
They will trade him to MTL and like it
- Xizord


If Sam Bennett is the answer, you are asking the wrong question.
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Jul 17 @ 1:06 PM ET
Uh, so what you are saying is that they can move out money now... but it is impossible to move it out later.


- Aetherial

Much easier to move it out now then later and get it all done in on move, then multiple with a deadline.
Tampa is going to have to do some major cap dumps to fit everyone in. Plus they have players coming up who are going to be looking for huge raises.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
For some reason this Karlsson talk feels like Deja Vu....

Got anything to add Islander fans?
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jul 17 @ 1:10 PM ET
If Sam Bennett is the answer, you are asking the wrong question.
- Aetherial


well we are not winning anything soon...so I would take the chance if the price is right, still young
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Jul 17 @ 1:10 PM ET
10 or 11 million for 8 years of a guy who has had serious injuries and is horrific in his own end.
- Aetherial

You do know he's going to be in the HOF right? He's just as valuable as Doughty and by far ahead of every D int he NHL in terms of offensive. As well as his defensive numbers are fine. You don't get two Norris's by being bad at defense lol
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:13 PM ET
Anyone who thinks Jake Gardiner is compareable to Karlsson has no business ever talking about hockey again. Karlsson had one bad year on a team that self destructed. That's one bad year in 10 years
LittleBroDougie
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.03.2017

Jul 17 @ 1:14 PM ET
well we are not winning anything soon...so I would take the chance if the price is right, still young
- Xizord


Bennett for Pacioretty confirmed
sportsdataguy
Ottawa Senators
Location: NS
Joined: 11.24.2014

Jul 17 @ 1:14 PM ET
Or maybe Ottawa doesn't want to settle for a cap dump and a pick, Tampa is probably just being stingy and won't give up Sergachev.
- Conquest


If that's remotely true, good on Dorion for holding his ground. He has to get this deal right, the rest of the franchise's future and plans depend on it.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 17 @ 1:17 PM ET
You do know he's going to be in the HOF right? He's just as valuable as Doughty and by far ahead of every D int he NHL in terms of offensive. As well as his defensive numbers are fine. You don't get two Norris's by being bad at defense lol
- Maverick1818


So when Karlsson is playing for Tampa and finishes the year +20-30, does that mean he learned how to play defense finally? Maybe, just a weird theory, maybe Ottawa is a bad team. I know 30 other teams who would take Karlsson.
sportsdataguy
Ottawa Senators
Location: NS
Joined: 11.24.2014

Jul 17 @ 1:18 PM ET
Or they can wait a year and risk another team acquiring him.
- LJBoltsfan


Fixed.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:18 PM ET
Bennett for Pacioretty confirmed
- LittleBroDougie

STFU!
21 year Bennett for a 1 year rental??????
Now maybe for Brady Tkachuk but they have to take Stone to go play with his brother & Brady can come play with his Bro
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Jul 17 @ 1:19 PM ET
So when Karlsson is playing for Tampa and finishes the year +20-30, does that mean he learned how to play defense finally? Maybe, just a weird theory, maybe Ottawa is a bad team. I know 30 other teams who would take Karlsson.
- Glak18

That's my point, no team would be stupid enough to not want Karlsson on their team as Aetherial was suggesting
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:20 PM ET
If that's remotely true, good on Dorion for holding his ground. He has to get this deal right, the rest of the franchise's future and plans depend on it.
- sportsdataguy


Agreed. People are quick to forget a season of Karlsson has more value to Ottawa than whats being offered. Sens dont have a first. Its in their best interest to keep him and try to have a decent season and get away from that 1st overall pick. The deal has ro be substantial to have ottawa throw in the towel for the season
Holy_Makinaw99
Location: Toronto
Joined: 08.16.2011

Jul 17 @ 1:22 PM ET
They will trade him to MTL and like it
- Xizord


For who though? Your prospect pool is terrible.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 17 @ 1:23 PM ET
Much easier to move it out now then later and get it all done in on move, then multiple with a deadline.
Tampa is going to have to do some major cap dumps to fit everyone in. Plus they have players coming up who are going to be looking for huge raises.

- Maverick1818


This was never do-able in one move and a 3-way trade is not one move.
sportsdataguy
Ottawa Senators
Location: NS
Joined: 11.24.2014

Jul 17 @ 1:23 PM ET
Agreed. People are quick to forget a season of Karlsson has more value to Ottawa than whats being offered. Sens dont have a first. Its in their best interest to keep him and try to have a decent season and get away from that 1st overall pick. The deal has ro be substantial to have ottawa throw in the towel for the season
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Tbh, that 1st rounder is in another conference - so other than pride, I'm not sure it really matters. I also sense that this is Dorion's opportunity to save face on some of the bad deals he's made. He has a bit of ground to cover.
LittleBroDougie
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.03.2017

Jul 17 @ 1:23 PM ET
STFU!
21 year Bennett for a 1 year rental??????
Now maybe for Brady Tkachuk but they have to take Stone to go play with his brother & Brady can come play with his Bro

- Kevin R


Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 17 @ 1:24 PM ET
You do know he's going to be in the HOF right? He's just as valuable as Doughty and by far ahead of every D int he NHL in terms of offensive. As well as his defensive numbers are fine. You don't get two Norris's by being bad at defense lol
- Maverick1818


actually, yeah, he did.
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Jul 17 @ 1:24 PM ET
This was never do-able in one move and a 3-way trade is not one move.
- Aetherial

are you retarded? a 3 way deal is still one move just between 3 teams
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 17 @ 1:25 PM ET
If that's remotely true, good on Dorion for holding his ground. He has to get this deal right, the rest of the franchise's future and plans depend on it.
- sportsdataguy


Yeah he is in a tough spot. He has to get a good deal done but his leverage and potential trade partners is minimal.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 17 @ 1:25 PM ET
well we are not winning anything soon...so I would take the chance if the price is right, still young
- Xizord


Yeah, I can see that logic. It couldn't hurt.
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