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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 17 @ 12:53 PM ET
Scheifele Is elite Sam is not
- gerbe75pts


I think the point he is making is Scheifele wasn't elite, then became elite. Don't want to speak for clowns but.. Yeah, that's what he meant. Saying Skunk can never be even great is just stupid. I'm not debating with you again, but it's clear that he CAN do it. The question is will he.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 12:56 PM ET
skunk had 13 more points after 3 years than kessel
- homiedclown


There you go yet Sam goal is to score that’s his job

Kessel has 36 goals call me when Sam hits that
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 17 @ 12:56 PM ET
So, Sam is a year younger after his 3rd year in the league and has a better gpg avg playing a position that yields less production usually. Huh.
- TheHank


Nope, don't go there. The only facts allowed to be used are the facts that make him look right. All other facts are, in fact, not factual. They are just lies.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:56 PM ET
I think the point he is making is Scheifele wasn't elite, then became elite. Don't want to speak for clowns but.. Yeah, that's what he meant. Saying Skunk can never be even great is just stupid. I'm not debating with you again, but it's clear that he CAN do it. The question is will he.
- SDSabre

pretty much
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 17 @ 12:56 PM ET
So, Sam is a year younger after his 3rd year in the league and has a better ppg avg playing a position that yields less production usually. Huh.
- TheHank



If we're throwing out years in Juniors, Reinhart had 50 points in 82 games in his 3rd full year.

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/r/reinhsa01.html

Scheifle had 61 in 71.

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/s/scheima01.html

Coincidentally, both of them also played their 3rd full year at age 22.

Schiefle was also drafted at an age where he had 2 years of Junior eligibility.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:56 PM ET
There you go yet Sam goal is to score that’s his job

Kessel has 36 goals call me when Sam hits that

- gerbe75pts

I would never call you under any circumstance


SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 17 @ 12:57 PM ET
There you go yet Sam goal is to score that’s his job

Kessel has 36 goals call me when Sam hits that

- gerbe75pts


Why don't you just admit that you like to hate Skunk, and it's personal for you. Because by most metrics he's doing fine in his progression, and has shown he can be great. Used toy bin. Call him Stafford 2.0.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jul 17 @ 12:58 PM ET
I would never call you under any circumstance
- homiedclown

There you go with facts again
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 12:58 PM ET
I think the point he is making is Scheifele wasn't elite, then became elite. Don't want to speak for clowns but.. Yeah, that's what he meant. Saying Skunk can never be even great is just stupid. I'm not debating with you again, but it's clear that he CAN do it. The question is will he.
- SDSabre


You can say that about every player that a GM signs

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:58 PM ET
If we're throwing out years in Juniors, Reinhart had 50 points in 82 games in his 3rd full year.

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/r/reinhsa01.html

Scheifle had 61 in 71.

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/s/scheima01.html

Coincidentally, both of them also played their 3rd full year at age 22.

Schiefle was also drafted at an age where he had 2 years of Junior eligibility.

- buffalofan19

neither are as good as armia
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jul 17 @ 12:58 PM ET
You can say that about every player that a GM signs
- gerbe75pts

Holy poop
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jul 17 @ 12:59 PM ET
neither are as good as armia
- homiedclown

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 1:00 PM ET
Why don't you just admit that you like to hate Skunk, and it's personal for you. Because by most metrics he's doing fine in his progression, and has shown he can be great. Used toy bin. Call him Stafford 2.0.
- SDSabre


Sure he’s doing fine .. I’m sure all of you are happy that the first forward taken is good not elite

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 17 @ 1:00 PM ET
So, Sam is a year younger after his 3rd year in the league and has a better gpg avg playing a position that yields less production usually. Huh.
- TheHank

There are so many other factors.

Scheifele didn’t get PP time for a few years. Once he did he took off.

Reinhart has been on PP1 since his first full season
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 1:01 PM ET
Why don't you just admit that you like to hate Skunk, and it's personal for you. Because by most metrics he's doing fine in his progression, and has shown he can be great. Used toy bin. Call him Stafford 2.0.
- SDSabre

eichel suffocated sam
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 1:01 PM ET
Holy poop
- TheHank


Smh learn something
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 17 @ 1:01 PM ET
As much as I disliked the Okposo signing from day 1, I do wonder if either he or Reinhart could make a transition to left wing.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 17 @ 1:02 PM ET
You can say that about every player that a GM signs
- gerbe75pts


But you can't say that every player has gotten more points year over year 3 years into the league. Or that everyone was a ppg (your math) during the 2nd half of the year. So which is it? Actually, don't answer. Sam sucks, will never be a ppg player (because according to you his ppg is 90 points in 82 games) and needs to go yesterday.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 17 @ 1:03 PM ET
There are so many other factors.

Scheifele didn’t get PP time for a few years. Once he did he took off.

Reinhart has been on PP1 since his first full season

- sbroads24


Like the teams they play on...?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 17 @ 1:03 PM ET
There are so many other factors.

Scheifele didn’t get PP time for a few years. Once he did he took off.

Reinhart has been on PP1 since his first full season

- sbroads24



The notion that Reinhart out produced Schiefle at this stage of his career is really false.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 1:03 PM ET
Sure he’s doing fine .. I’m sure all of you are happy that the first forward taken is good not elite
- gerbe75pts

so you hate him because he was drafted 2nd overall


if he was taken 12th overall you would still find something to b!tch about IMO
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Jul 17 @ 1:04 PM ET
if the goal was to roll the dice for Dahlin, he gets an A+

if he wanted to see if he could ice a fringe playoff team, he gets a C-



we will never know what he was trying to do, my guess is dahlin

- homiedclown


My guess is he was a first year GM who wanted to see the team he had under a new coach, there were no moves he could have made that would have drastically improved this team. I also like that he hasn't thrown around picks and prospects like a certain former GM did...
I don't think Botts should be given an A+ but I think a b or B- is completely acceptable based on the crap show he was handed when he was hired.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 17 @ 1:04 PM ET
Like the teams they play on...?
- SDSabre



Age was more of a factor. Schiefle had 2 years of Junior eligibility after he was drafted. Reinhart only had one.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 17 @ 1:05 PM ET
Sure he’s doing fine .. I’m sure all of you are happy that the first forward taken is good not elite
- gerbe75pts


It was just said by you it's his job to score goals. And he's scored 20 twice in 3 seasons. Kessel did that once. Just because he's a steady climber and not a rocket to ppg status by year 3 doesn't mean he sucks. That's what I don't think you get.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:07 PM ET
neither are as good as armia
- homiedclown

I read he was going to be the greatest chip in the Kane trade? Unfortunately for some and lucky for others, the archive doesn't lie.
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