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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 12:25 PM ET
he is no Adam Henrique
- homiedclown


who is, though
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:25 PM ET
He spent the year analyzing the talent of the team. He rolled with Murray's core, swapped out a couple spare parts. You can't build through UFA and trading for long term significant players is extremely difficult. Saying "He shot for Dahlin" or "he thought he could be a playoff contender" is kinda off the mark.

I'm certain they tried to win. I'm certain he did the best he could with what he had. But now he has an idea of what will and won't work, internally and externally, on and off the ice. Changing the makeup of the team over a year is tough. Over 2 months, like last year, is impossible.

- TheSabresTaco

I am sure by mid november it was tank on
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 17 @ 12:26 PM ET
beaulieu
waiting on the kane trade
wilson
beaulieu
chad johnson
hoarding left D
leaf trade
griffith with the big club to start the year

those all come to mind at a glance

- homiedclown


Can’t argue with any of those....
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:26 PM ET
who is, though
- TheSabresTaco

Sam Gagner
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 12:27 PM ET
Sam Gagner
- homiedclown


He did have that 8 point night. Elite
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:27 PM ET
Mark Scheifele puts up 57 goals in his first 3 years and gets over 6 mil and is a great contract



Skunk puts up 65 goals in his first 3 seasons and is a piece of sh!t
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 12:31 PM ET


I'm scanning the CBA

- jcragcrumple


It’s one of those important things that non of buffalo ask when they have people on for a interview lol

That a what side does the chosen one like to play when they have him on lol
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 12:32 PM ET
Sam Gagner
- homiedclown


Sam Reinhart ?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 12:32 PM ET
Mark Scheifele puts up 57 goals in his first 3 years and gets over 6 mil and is a great contract



Skunk puts up 65 goals in his first 3 seasons and is a piece of sh!t

- homiedclown


Scheifele Is elite Sam is not
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:35 PM ET
Scheifele Is elite Sam is not
- gerbe75pts

scheifele got paid and became a ppg player


what was reinhart the last half of the year?
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 17 @ 12:35 PM ET
Scheifele Is elite Sam is not
- gerbe75pts


And yet Sam is producing more at the same point in their careers... hummmm
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 17 @ 12:36 PM ET
It’s one of those important things that non of buffalo ask when they have people on for a interview lol

That a what side does the chosen one like to play when they have him on lol

- gerbe75pts



Seriously. If only someone would just ask Botterill.


I scanned for key words in the CBA. I'll be damned if i read that whole thing. The word conditional never appears in a context next to the word trade.

Vogl says they can be traded.

"Trade" means the transfer, other than as a result of a claim by Waivers, from one
Club's Reserve List or Free Agent List to another Club's Reserve List or Free Agent List of a
Player's SPC, the rights to a Player (including his SPC, if applicable) on such Club's Reserve List
or Free Agent List, and/or the rights to a draft choice in the Entry Draft.



That's from the CBA.

I don't believe from my cursory reading that it is expressly forbidden by the CBA


Edit:

Someone showed a quote from a GM about "encumbered picks"

a search of that word only appears as it relates to offer sheets
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 17 @ 12:36 PM ET
scheifele got paid and became a ppg player


what was reinhart the last half of the year?

- homiedclown


It's best not to even try anymore.

The Sabres players are the worst, everybody elses players are elite.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:37 PM ET
And yet Sam is producing more at the same point in their careers... hummmm
- gordong

but sam peaked already


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:38 PM ET
It's best not to even try anymore.

The Sabres players are the worst, everybody elses players are elite.

- ImThatGuy

flip side, eichel is given God status


by most fans
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 12:41 PM ET
And yet Sam is producing more at the same point in their careers... hummmm
- gordong

Not sure if serious


TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jul 17 @ 12:44 PM ET
Not sure if serious
- gerbe75pts

Facts are confusing to you?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:44 PM ET
Not sure if serious
- gerbe75pts

first 3 years

scheifele had 4 more points, sam had 8 more goals
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 12:45 PM ET
Facts are confusing to you?
- TheHank


You people understand they both play different positions ?


Facts mean nothing

Next time use a player that’s a wing
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:46 PM ET
Facts are confusing to you?
- TheHank

california math confuses him
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:49 PM ET
You people understand they both play different positions ?


Facts mean nothing

Next time use a player that’s a wing

- gerbe75pts

skunk had 13 more points after 3 years than kessel


buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 17 @ 12:49 PM ET
Not sure if serious
- gerbe75pts



It's hard to compare because Schiefle played 2 years in Juniors after being drafted, whereas Reinhart only played 1. Just about anyone outside of Buffalo, as well as most people inside Buffalo, will tell you that Schiefle is the better player, but using where they were at in year 3 as a pro is a bad metric. Age had a lot to do with it.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jul 17 @ 12:50 PM ET
but sam peaked already



- homiedclown


According to Gerbe he peaked after his 9 games...
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 17 @ 12:52 PM ET
skunk had 13 more points after 3 years than kessel
- homiedclown



But Phil is fat, so it doesn't count.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jul 17 @ 12:52 PM ET
It's hard to compare because Schiefle played 2 years in Juniors after being drafted, whereas Reinhart only played 1. Just about anyone outside of Buffalo, as well as most people inside Buffalo, will tell you that Schiefle is the better player, but using where they were at in year 3 as a pro is a bad metric. Age had a lot to do with it.
- buffalofan19

So, Sam is a year younger after his 3rd year in the league and has a better gpg avg playing a position that yields less production usually. Huh.
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