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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 17 @ 3:00 PM ET
Interesting that C.J. Smith got the most money of the non-reinhart category of RFAs. That would seemingly make him a front-runner for an NHL LW position, if you believe in a correlation between pay and skill. NHL mock roster 84. Yes, Erod is not an ideal 1LW candidate

Erod-Eichel-Okposo
Sheary-Mitts-Reinhart
Smith-Berglund-Thompson
Bailey-Sobotka-Pommer
Baptiste
Girgs

Scandella-Risto
Bogo-Dahlin
Guhle-Nelson
McCabe


Larsson and Beaulieu exposed to waivers. And nothing of value was lost

- jcragcrumple


I like the O-side of the roster better than others posted recently.
Participation Award to you.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
don't forget guhle and Asplund in the second round...

am interested to see how third-rounders pu and fitzgerald work out as well as fourth rounders Borgen and murray

- Michael Pachla



Murray's career would have been better if he served as an AGM for 20 years to run the draft. Giving him trading privileges was a bad idea
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
What is the argument exactly? I’m confused.

So if Reinhart doesn’t put up a PPG soon like Schiefele are we moving the goalposts again?

Reinhart is a good player. It ends there until he proves otherwise

I hope he does
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
And you aren't answering the questions asked:

Why would he trade for a player to make him worse?

Why would he sign a player that would undoubtedly score more than the in-system replacement?

- RhinoFan


Part of tanking is to hold your young talent back in rochester.

Guhle
Bailey
Baps
Smith
Nylander blows
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
I'd rehire TM as a scout in a heartbeat.

The first draft had some big misses, but generally he drafted well and got us some quality talent out of later rounds.

- RhinoFan


Wait what ??? The dude moved a first in 2015 in one of the deepest draft

He was such a good scout that he valued robin over first liners and 2nd liners

Great job
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 3:06 PM ET
Part of tanking is to hold your young talent back in rochester.

Guhle
Bailey
Baps
Smith
Nylander blows

- Boss34


The truth will set you free
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 17 @ 3:06 PM ET
Wait what ??? The dude moved a first in 2015 in one of the deepest draft

He was such a good scout that he valued robin over first liners and 2nd liners

Great job

- gerbe75pts


Not defending the trades here. Still don't think the Kulikov trade was as awful as made out to be. Other than that it was straight poop wall to wall. I get that. I'm just saying when he drafted, particularly in the middle rounds when things get dicey, he seemed to pull out quality.

Horrible GM
Probably has the knowledge to be a good scout
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 3:07 PM ET
So out of your 11 guys 3 will not be on the opening day roster

Bowl u
Larson
Girgs
McCabe
Bogo



Who knows, its July and jbotts switched out 10-12 guys already from the beginning of last season

Bowl u a gamble- how do you know botts didnt pick him up to play exactly how he played last year?- terrible

Kane- agreed who knows what was offered when?

Wilson- good add, wasn't gone put the train back on the tracks single handedly

Chad- didnt play that well in calgary the year before, they would have resigned their home town kid.

Tennyson/ Griffin- life time ahl guys. What was your point on this one? Clearly not nhl talent. Losers

- Boss34


Bowl u
Larson
Girgs
McCabe
Bogo

We don't know who's going to be here on October 1st. So speaking on the topic from either side is useless, but they're here today. Just a poorly worded argument.

Bowlie was a gamble to play on the bottom 2 lines. He can. He fits Housley's system. He's just a bonehead. He used a pick that works out 20ish % of the time. To replace Josh Gorges. That's an improvement any way you cut it. Sorry.

Kane - Saying you don't know why he was traded because he was helping us lose and we wanted to continue to lose is (frank)ing stupid. At the very least, you can admit that. Botts said the Sharks was the only offer. True? False? Who knows. It sure seemed like it based on the underwhelming return.

Wilson - A depth guy, and pretending he's anything more is foolish, even in an argument as ignorant as this.

CJ - 2.59 GAA, 0.910 SV%, 36 GP. Year before, 2.36 GAA, 0.920 SV%, 36 GP. How is this not seen as a reasonable add?

Tennyson/Griffith - My point? You use these guys as anchors of your tanking argument. They were meant for Rochester. One of them started here because no one else was better than Griffith to start the season. When someone was finally able to supplant him (and Tennyson) it was done immediately, and Griffith and to a lesser extent Tennyson (outside of injuries) were done here.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 17 @ 3:07 PM ET
Part of tanking is to hold your young talent back in rochester.

Guhle
Bailey
Baps
Smith
Nylander blows

- Boss34


Answer the question:

If he was tanking, why trade a 3rd round pick for a defender? You could sign an equally poopty one for free. I'll hang up and listen.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
Yeah

Pouliot was bought out. Clearly not playing well
Bowl u- was a terrible player for the habs.

You keep proving my point

- Boss34


The amount of reality distortion here is unreal.

Bought out of his 4 some million contract. Brought here on a 1x1 prove it deal to play depth where we had absolute zero options.

Bowl-U played all over the lineup. That makes him an NHL defenseman. He's better than Gorges. Would you agree? Because I sure would.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 17 @ 3:10 PM ET
I'd rehire TM as a scout in a heartbeat.

The first draft had some big misses, but generally he drafted well and got us some quality talent out of later rounds.

- RhinoFan



a much better scout than gm...too bad for us the past three years
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 3:12 PM ET
Part of tanking is to hold your young talent back in rochester.

Guhle
Bailey
Baps
Smith
Nylander blows

- Boss34


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 17 @ 3:12 PM ET
And you aren't answering the questions asked:

Why would he trade for a player to make him worse?

Why would he sign a player that would undoubtedly score more than the in-system replacement?

- RhinoFan



Also : beaulieu had 1 goal in 59 games

Pretty much any other player in the nhl would "undoubtedly " score more goals

The great benoit pouliot had 13 goals

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 3:13 PM ET
a much better scout than gm...too bad for us the past three years
- Michael Pachla


Yet he moved picks like candy
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
Wait what ??? The dude moved a first in 2015 in one of the deepest draft

He was such a good scout that he valued robin over first liners and 2nd liners

Great job

- gerbe75pts

that was a gm move
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
Answer the question:

If he was tanking, why trade a 3rd round pick for a defender? You could sign an equally poopty one for free. I'll hang up and listen.

- RhinoFan


Good luck, I'm still waiting on the response for the Scandella trade.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
Yet he moved picks like candy
- gerbe75pts


as a gm
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 17 @ 3:15 PM ET
I snort Zoloft, it helps.
- RhinoFan



I like this.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 17 @ 3:15 PM ET
The amount of reality distortion here is unreal.

Bought out of his 4 some million contract. Brought here on a 1x1 prove it deal to play depth where we had absolute zero options.

Bowl-U played all over the lineup. That makes him an NHL defenseman. He's better than Gorges. Would you agree? Because I sure would.

- TheSabresTaco



It's crazy how some people just dont get it.
We can agree on that.

If gorges played the entire season and had less then 1 goal, he would have made the Sabres worse.

Would you agree?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 3:15 PM ET
We just sucked there was no tank

They would have made jack stay out for the rest of the year
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 17 @ 3:16 PM ET
as a gm
- Michael Pachla


As a scout he should know the talent level of the draft but he moved picks like candy and those week drafts became one of the strongest
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
Also : beaulieu had 1 goal in 59 games

Pretty much any other player in the nhl would "undoubtedly " score more goals

The great benoit pouliot had 13 goals

- Boss34


Pouliot was paid $60,526 per point.

Rick Nash was paid $229,412 per point.

Just gonna lob that one in there.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
Good luck, I'm still waiting on the response for the Scandella trade.
- TheSabresTaco


Definitely made the sabres easy to play against.
Foligno
So did letting go of:

Delo
Carrier
Kane

Soft spineless team , = easy to beat
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 17 @ 3:18 PM ET
As a scout he should know the talent level of the draft but he moved picks like candy and those week drafts became one of the strongest
- gerbe75pts


he made those moves as the general manager of the sabres
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 17 @ 3:18 PM ET
It's crazy how some people just dont get it.
We can agree on that.

If gorges played the entire season and had less then 1 goal, he would have made the Sabres worse.

Would you agree?

- Boss34


Some defensemen aren't in the NHL to score. Overall, and I definitely mean overall, Beaulieu in 2017 was more useful than Gorges in 2017 and probably 2016. This is analytically factual.
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