I could see Hexy going with Stolie or Lyon if Hart is not playing light's out.

I can absolutely see Hart earning the job out of camp next summer (2019), regardless of NHL action this season.

I just have a feeling that Hexy would be reluctant to bring Hart up too early this season. If he isn't killing it in AHL, I doubt Hexy will expose him to NHL.

Now, my hope is that Hart is as good as advertised and he shows he belongs from the start of the year. Then this is all moot. From everything that I have read about Carter, he seems like he can be a special goalie. He seems prepared for the next step in his career. I'm excited. And, for the record, I want to see him in NHL sooner rather than later but I have drunk the Hexy Kool-Aid. I trust him and his people.
- cdearth23

Not sure if I came off like a Richard. I was really asking. I hope you’re right.

Regarding his draft position, Daigle uttered the now infamous comment, "I'm glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two".
- jmatchett383

And promptly became the bust of all busts.

yes my JvR statement was a joke about a topic that is worse than a dead horse

I would move Neuvirth if a team needs a goaltender badly enough to return a useful piece or a high draft pick at least.

I would try to re-sign Tokarski no matter what. He would not be any worse than Mrazek in a pinch and would not sulk too much if he was in Reading. And he statistically outplayed Lyon (5 SO) when they shared starts in LV, and Lyon dominated Stolarz in 16-17.

I would move Neuvirth if a team needs a goaltender badly enough to return a useful piece or a high draft pick at least.

I would try to re-sign Tokarski no matter what. He would not be any worse than Mrazek in a pinch and would not sulk too much if he was in Reading. And he outplayed Stolarz when they shared starts in LV.
- hockeyal

The only season they shared starts together was last year, and Stolarz only played in 1 game due to injury. Don't think it's a very fair comparison.

Looking objectively at the talent and injury history of the Flyers current available for NHL duty goalies not named Carter Hart, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Hart was their #1 by the all star break.

Reasons?

Elliott is better off at this point in his career as a backup/mentor than as a #1

Lyon is an NHL backup at best

Stolarz will probably be hurt by mid season, and even if not he’ll likely need a full AHL season just to get back to where he was prior to last season

And, Neuvirth will probably blow out both knees bending down to tie his skates day one of camp
- BiggE

Nobody really knows if Lyon can be an NHL starter. And people put a lot of faith in Stolarz limited performance as a rookie before anyone had a book on him. He has looked very much like an AHL/ECHL goaltender since then. HE won't even be in the system in 19-20.

I would be comfortable going with Elliott and Lyon of the Flyers can get something valuable (sound veteran defender, legit 3C, 1st/2nd round pick) for him.

And promptly became the bust of all busts.

yes my JvR statement was a joke about a topic that is worse than a dead horse
- dragonoffrost

Really? Bigger bust than Patrik Stefan? I disagree. Daigle had more talent than a lot of players in the NHL now, he wanted to be a movie star and never enjoyed playing ice hockey.

Gonna be funny if hart has a rather average or underwhelming year in the ahl

Ronald so far has failed his team by not acquiring good goalie. Let’s see how hart handled this unnecessary pressure.

Gonna be funny if hart has a rather average or underwhelming year in the ahl

Ronald so far has failed his team by not acquiring good goalie. Let’s see how hart handled this unnecessary pressure.
- rinaldo

I realize I don't even care if the Flyers win the Stanley Cup because I would love for it to happen. I just want them to win so Ronald can slap the stupid off your face and giggle like a school girl.

Start listing good goalies Ronald can acquire that will guarantee a Stanley Cup championship....now go.

I realize I don't even care if the Flyers win the Stanley Cup because I would love for it to happen. I just want them to win so Ronald can slap the stupid off your face and giggle like a school girl.

Start listing good goalies Ronald can acquire that will guarantee a Stanley Cup championship....now go.
- Glak18

I would beat the piss out of Ronald

No one guarantees a cup dope.

Hello from Munich Germany All!

I have no idea what the plan is, to be honest. I don't think there is enough confidence quite yet in Lyon to make him the 1B to Elliott (assuming Neuvirth is tradeable in Sept if he can stay healthy til then as he completes his rehab with new trainer number 3). I also don't think there is enough confidence in Elliott's health status yet to make him the 3/4 to 4/5 of the time starter again.

With 3 goalies at the AHL and a desire for Hart to at least split time 50-50 -- but with Lyon clearly advanced enough to be an AHL starter at bare minimum, and Stolarz having also shown as much before the two meniscus tears -- I don't know how that will be sorted out either.
- bmeltzer

Some people would say it’s a good problem to have. I however only see Hart or Sandstrom as being possible NHL difference makers. Room as to be made for Hart to get 50 percent of AHL starts minimum. And I don’t see stolatz or lyons as bringing in more assets then they are worth.

Gonna be funny if hart has a rather average or underwhelming year in the ahl

Ronald so far has failed his team by not acquiring good goalie. Let’s see how hart handled this unnecessary pressure.
- rinaldo

yes it's gonna be hilarious.

I would beat the piss out of Ronald

No one guarantees a cup dope.
- rinaldo

You couldn't beat a toothless Kenzo grandma, let alone an old man Hextall.

Then what would be the point of acquiring a "good" goaltender then ding dong? So fake Flyer fans like you can brag how good their goalie is and not win anything, this isn't NYC.

Some people would say it’s a good problem to have. I however only see Hart or Sandstrom as being possible NHL difference makers. Room as to be made for Hart to get 50 percent of AHL starts minimum. And I don’t see stolatz or lyons as bringing in more assets then they are worth.
- youarewrong

Hart will have have to earn 50% of the starts

Looking objectively at the talent and injury history of the Flyers current available for NHL duty goalies not named Carter Hart, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Hart was their #1 by the all star break.

Reasons?

Elliott is better off at this point in his career as a backup/mentor than as a #1

Lyon is an NHL backup at best

Stolarz will probably be hurt by mid season, and even if not he’ll likely need a full AHL season just to get back to where he was prior to last season

And, Neuvirth will probably blow out both knees bending down to tie his skates day one of camp
- BiggE

Agree. Even when Elliott plays, he's pretty pedestrian and puts up mediocre numbers.

You couldn't beat a toothless Kenzo grandma, let alone an old man Hextall.

Then what would be the point of acquiring a "good" goaltender then ding dong? So fake Flyer fans like you can brag how good their goalie is and not win anything, this isn't NYC.
- Glak18

Fake flyers fan. Been fan longer than u have been alive is my guess.

What would be the point of acquiring anyone since u aren’t guaranteed anything? Look forward to ur response.

What would be the point of acquiring a goalie. Are you really asking thay question?

Fake flyers fan. Been fan longer than u have been alive is my guess.

What would be the point of acquiring anyone since u aren’t guaranteed anything? Look forward to ur response.

What would be the point of acquiring a goalie. Are you really asking thay question?
- rinaldo

Think he asked you what are possible goaltenders the Flyers could go out and obtain?

Think he asked you what are possible goaltenders the Flyers could go out and obtain?
- flyer_nutter

No that’s not what he asked. Besides that’s the GM job.

Think he asked you what are possible goaltenders the Flyers could go out and obtain?
- flyer_nutter

[smug fantasy hockey veteran] Well, they could've had Grubauer but now it's too late for that. [/sfhv]

No that’s not what he asked. Besides that’s the GM job.
- rinaldo

Fair enough.

I want an upgrade in goal but don’t see many out there that would be true consistent upgrades.

No that’s not what he asked.
- rinaldo

it is

Ronald so far has failed his team by not acquiring good goalie. Let’s see how hart handled this unnecessary pressure.
- rinaldo

Start listing good goalies Ronald can acquire that will guarantee a Stanley Cup championship....now go.
- Glak18

it is
- Scoob

U might want to re read it.

U might want to re read it.
- rinaldo

Nah, I already stopped caring

Fake flyers fan. Been fan longer than u have been alive is my guess.

What would be the point of acquiring anyone since u aren’t guaranteed anything? Look forward to ur response.

What would be the point of acquiring a goalie. Are you really asking thay question?
- rinaldo

If you say so JoeGrief Jr.

Logical response would be to make your team better.

Let's break down the facts so far:

You have stated numerous times that Ron Hextall is a terrible GM, multiple occasions have stated the worst GM in the league and just recently said "Ronald so far has failed his team by not acquiring good goalie."

Ok so you have a bias towards Ron Hextall for some reason and obviously not for logical reasons.

So the reason Hextall is terrible is because he has yet to acquire a goaltender who will win them a cup, obviously not a goaltender who wins games or goaltenders who can help the team make the playoffs since that has been accomplished already. So for Hextall to succeed he must acquire a goaltender to win the cup, which they have not.

What's the point of acquiring a goaltender? Yes, I am asking that point blank to find out where your delusional thinking is coming from. The simple answer once again is to improve the team, but......

The team has 4 goaltenders under pro level contracts already. So your simple minded response would be "Well they need someone better".

For a second time now, who exactly is out there for the Flyers to acquire? Remember the the names listed must follow these rules of logic:

1) Goaltender must be acquired for free or very little current or future assets, otherwise how are they getting better if they are giving up assets they need.

2) The player and/or team must be willing to to accept the Flyers offer. In reality trades and signings are 2-way streets, this isn't a video game, both parties have to agree. Saying trade this player is unacceptable because if the Flyers don't want them why would someone else?

So now...AGAIN...list the goaltenders Ronald should acquire to make this team better to win a stanley cup. You are on the clock.

Yeah Mrazek was mind-boggling. Thought the kid had a lot of upside and NHL starting goalie potential. I guess there's a reason why the Wings stuck with Howard.
- Pixote Andolini

When Mrazek entered the league, he was very good. In his defense, he’s never played behind a really good defense and by the looks of the Canes current roster, he probably never will.