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Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
I feel the same. I think Elliott would be ideal back-up/mentor. But, don't sleep on Stolie. Yes, he missed most of the year. Yes, he will need to see game action. Unless Hart is playing lights out, I could see Hexy picking a healthy Stolie over Hart this year. After this season, I believe it is Hart's net. Sandstrom, if he comes over, will push him. Stolie may become a strong trade chip. Lyon is AHL.

This, of course, is just my opinion. I just think that Carter Hart would have to be having a tremendous year in AHL for Hexy to "rush" his plan and bring him up. I'd love to see it but I'm not as optimistic.

- cdearth23


So you think Hart doesn't get a call up this upcoming season, but earns the starting position out of camp the following season? I dunno, I have a hard time seeing that happening with the way things have been playing out the last few years.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 17 @ 11:52 AM ET
Pat Falloon never lived up to his hype, but the guy did have a handful of 20+ goal seasons. He was a capable top-9 winger, but he'll always be best remember as the guy taken after Eric Lindros; remember, nobody remembers who is taken second.
- jmatchett383


such a good line
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 17 @ 11:53 AM ET
So you think Hart doesn't get a call up this upcoming season, but earns the starting position out of camp the following season? I dunno, I have a hard time seeing that happening with the way things have been playing out the last few years.
- Ftown19125



I expect Hart to see some NHL action this season.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 17 @ 11:53 AM ET
I expect Hart to see some NHL action this season.
- MJL


Most likely true with the M*A*S*H unit of goalies under contract
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 17 @ 11:54 AM ET
Pat Falloon never lived up to his hype, but the guy did have a handful of 20+ goal seasons. He was a capable top-9 winger, but he'll always be best remember as the guy taken after Eric Lindros; remember, nobody remembers who is taken second.
- jmatchett383


pepperidge farms remembers
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 17 @ 11:56 AM ET
Most likely true with the M*A*S*H unit of goalies under contract
- dragonoffrost

This +1
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 17 @ 11:58 AM ET
James vanRiemsdyk begs to differ.
- dragonoffrost


Alexander Daigle begs to differ with you.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 17 @ 11:59 AM ET
So you think Hart doesn't get a call up this upcoming season, but earns the starting position out of camp the following season? I dunno, I have a hard time seeing that happening with the way things have been playing out the last few years.
- Ftown19125


I think he gets some callup time, just not a part of the tandem full-time.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jul 17 @ 12:00 PM ET
So you think Hart doesn't get a call up this upcoming season, but earns the starting position out of camp the following season? I dunno, I have a hard time seeing that happening with the way things have been playing out the last few years.
- Ftown19125


I could see Hexy going with Stolie or Lyon if Hart is not playing light's out.

I can absolutely see Hart earning the job out of camp next summer (2019), regardless of NHL action this season.

I just have a feeling that Hexy would be reluctant to bring Hart up too early this season. If he isn't killing it in AHL, I doubt Hexy will expose him to NHL.

Now, my hope is that Hart is as good as advertised and he shows he belongs from the start of the year. Then this is all moot. From everything that I have read about Carter, he seems like he can be a special goalie. He seems prepared for the next step in his career. I'm excited. And, for the record, I want to see him in NHL sooner rather than later but I have drunk the Hexy Kool-Aid. I trust him and his people.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 17 @ 12:01 PM ET
I expect Hart to see some NHL action this season.
- MJL


What if this insane scenario happens, and both goalies are healthy all season? Do you think he sees the NHL regardless?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 17 @ 12:03 PM ET
What if this insane scenario happens, and both goalies are healthy all season? Do you think he sees the NHL regardless?
- Ftown19125


It's less likely, but there's no way both goalies are in the lineup for 82 games. I don't think any team last year had the same 2 goalies all 82 games. It just doesn't happen.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 17 @ 12:04 PM ET
What if this insane scenario happens, and both goalies are healthy all season? Do you think he sees the NHL regardless?
- Ftown19125


No, I think the reason he will see time in the NHL is as an injury call up.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 17 @ 12:06 PM ET
What if this insane scenario happens, and both goalies are healthy all season? Do you think he sees the NHL regardless?
- Ftown19125


Could be lots of things.....could be a game at the end of the regular season that doesn't have significance to the standings.

Even Cal Heeter got in an NHL game once upon a time. It's not beyond the pale to think that, insane injury scenarios aside, that they could call up Hart to get his feet wet in an NHL game where the standings didn't much matter.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 17 @ 12:07 PM ET
pepperidge farms remembers
- Streit2ThePoint

dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 17 @ 12:08 PM ET
Could be lots of things.....could be a game at the end of the regular season that doesn't have significance to the standings.

Even Cal Heeter got in an NHL game once upon a time. It's not beyond the pale to think that, insane injury scenarios aside, that they could call up Hart to get his feet wet in an NHL game where the standings didn't much matter.

- johndewar


and promptly got torched
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 17 @ 12:10 PM ET
and promptly got torched
- dragonoffrost


FWIW, after those first 2 goals, he settled in and played...well, better than Martin Houle. Actually made a few decent saves.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 17 @ 12:14 PM ET
Could be lots of things.....could be a game at the end of the regular season that doesn't have significance to the standings.

Even Cal Heeter got in an NHL game once upon a time. It's not beyond the pale to think that, insane injury scenarios aside, that they could call up Hart to get his feet wet in an NHL game where the standings didn't much matter.

- johndewar


Yeah I'm hoping to see him next season, obviously. I just don't think I'd be all that surprised if he didn't play an NHL game next season.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:14 PM ET
What if this insane scenario happens, and both goalies are healthy all season? Do you think he sees the NHL regardless?
- Ftown19125

Neuvy has to be motivated, contract year, and maybe his last shot as an nhl goalie?

Stranger things have happened then him having a solid injury free season.

I can’t think of any examples that would be more surprising then him staying healthy though.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jul 17 @ 12:18 PM ET
Neuvy has to be motivated, contract year, and maybe his last shot as an nhl goalie?

Stranger things have happened then him having a solid injury free season.

I can’t think of any examples that would be more surprising then him staying healthy though.

- Marc D


Thought Neuvy was also staying in North America vs. going home and he changed trainers to see if he could improve his health/strength.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 17 @ 12:20 PM ET
Neuvy has to be motivated, contract year, and maybe his last shot as an nhl goalie?

Stranger things have happened then him having a solid injury free season.

I can’t think of any examples that would be more surprising then him staying healthy though.

- Marc D


Like standing in the crease and then being flat on the ice seconds later?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 17 @ 12:24 PM ET
Like standing in the crease and then being flat on the ice seconds later?
- dragonoffrost

Sounds like Brandon Manning.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:26 PM ET
Sounds like Brandon Manning.
- mayorofangrytown

5/6ths of their D core trying to PK last year
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 17 @ 12:27 PM ET
Like standing in the crease and then being flat on the ice seconds later?
- dragonoffrost

that was pretty (frank)ing weird
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 17 @ 12:27 PM ET
Pat Falloon never lived up to his hype, but the guy did have a handful of 20+ goal seasons. He was a capable top-9 winger, but he'll always be best remember as the guy taken after Eric Lindros; remember, nobody remembers who is taken second.
- jmatchett383



Except for Jack Eichel, Patrick Laine, Nolan Patrick, Tyler Seguin, Victor Hedman, Drew Doughty, JVR, Evgeni Malkin, Patrick Marleau, Chris Pronger, Brendan Shanahan and a few others...



Im only joshin ya, I understood your point......
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 17 @ 12:31 PM ET
Except for Jack Eichel, Patrick Laine, Nolan Patrick, Tyler Seguin, Victor Hedman, Drew Doughty, JVR, Evgeni Malkin, Patrick Marleau, Chris Pronger, Brendan Shanahan and a few others...



Im only joshin ya, I understood your point......

- MBFlyerfan


Regarding his draft position, Daigle uttered the now infamous comment, "I'm glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two".
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