Marc D
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Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees Joined: 03.28.2008
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Mrazek had a fair shot to show the team what he could do, and I’m glad he’s not coming back.
That said I have little confidence in Elliot playing more then 40-45 games and no confidence in Neuvy staying healthy.
Lyon and Stollie are not NHL starters imo.
I think with the current roster of goalies just letting things play out has a lot of potential to backfire. |
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hereticpride
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Put stolarz in the echl to see if his knees cnz hold
Up. Gets lots of playing time then evaluate in 60 days - rinaldo
Stolarz to the ECHL seems to make the most sense to me. He might not get tested a ton but the kid needs minutes at this point.
If you run three goalies in the AHL you're only taking minutes away from everyone. |
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Stolarz to the ECHL seems to make the most sense to me. He might not get tested a ton but the kid needs minutes at this point.
If you run three goalies in the AHL you're only taking minutes away from everyone. - hereticpride
Or loan him out with a promise of play Time; performance permitting |
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wcorvette
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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First off, there's no guarantee that Sandstrom will come over next season, so there's the possibility that one or both could stay in the AHL (or function as an NHL backup) next year. If the Flyers, who have invested time and money into both, feel that they have no value to the future, why would another team give you anything for them?
I don't think that either one will ever be a full-time NHL starter. But I feel that Lyon is a very good AHL starter, as was Stolarz before his injury. If they can mold either into a capable NHL backup, I'd call that a win. - jmatchett383
I think Hextall will continue to add goalies. They will need the AHL to develop the NHL potentials. I really think they have to move 1 of them next year. I actually think Stollie has some upside, if he can get back to where he was.
Tough one, Lyon, Stollie and Hart all need playing time. I don't see any of them as an NHL back up this season. |
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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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I think Hextall will continue to add goalies. They will need the AHL to develop the NHL potentials. I really think they have to move 1 of them next year. I actually think Stollie has some upside, if he can get back to where he was.
Tough one, Lyon, Stollie and Hart all need playing time. I don't see any of them as an NHL back up this season. - wcorvette
It certainly is a change from the days of yore.
I really have to give Hextall credit for turning the prospect pool, goalies included, in to the envy of the entire NHL.
What is even more remarkable is how quickly he did it.
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Looking objectively at the talent and injury history of the Flyers current available for NHL duty goalies not named Carter Hart, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Hart was their #1 by the all star break.
Reasons?
Elliott is better off at this point in his career as a backup/mentor than as a #1
Lyon is an NHL backup at best
Stolarz will probably be hurt by mid season, and even if not he’ll likely need a full AHL season just to get back to where he was prior to last season
And, Neuvirth will probably blow out both knees bending down to tie his skates day one of camp |
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Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 09.17.2013
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Somehow Petr Mrazek was so bad for less than half the season with Flyers, the organization has more confidence in two inevitable ripped bandaids and an AHL starter who not quite ready to take the next step.
Personally, I like Petr Mrazek. I think there was a lot of potential there. I think if he was signed by a good team, we would see a ready good goalie ready to break out but instead he signed with the Canes, so I think he’s toast. - SuperSchennBros
He actually fooled me the first few games into thinking he was the best option the flyers had. And then he wasn't. |
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Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.23.2007
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He actually fooled me the first few games into thinking he was the best option the flyers had. And then he wasn't. - Ftown19125
Yeah Mrazek was mind-boggling. Thought the kid had a lot of upside and NHL starting goalie potential. I guess there's a reason why the Wings stuck with Howard. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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He actually fooled me the first few games into thinking he was the best option the flyers had. And then he wasn't. - Ftown19125
Yeah, he looked decent for the first handful of games, then he turned into Petr Mrazek. |
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Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.23.2007
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Yeah, he looked decent for the first handful of games, then he turned into Petr Mrazek. - jmatchett383
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I don't get why some people who are infatuated with below average to bad players. It's like they have some inferiority complex with good players, they think that a first round draft picks that isn't a top-6 forward or top-pair defenseman is a bust and just getting preferential treatment, and they want to see bad players rewarded because they try.
I get why it's easy to cheer for guys like Brandon Manning and undrafted free agents. They're guys who were given nothing and had to work their tails off and pay more than their fair share of dues to get where they are. All of that said, it does not mean that they are good NHL players. Heck, if someone told me they'd let me play professional hockey for a living, I'd do the same, but it doesn't mean I'd be any good at it. Being a hard worker and good teammate is something to admire, but it does not equate to being good.
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Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 09.17.2013
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Yeah, he looked decent for the first handful of games, then he turned into Petr Mrazek. - jmatchett383
I'm not sure what it was, he seemed to have a lot of athletic ability. I thought he made himself small a lot, and after making an initial save/attempting to make a save he would put himself really out of position. |
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Yeah Mrazek was mind-boggling. Thought the kid had a lot of upside and NHL starting goalie potential. I guess there's a reason why the Wings stuck with Howard. - Pixote Andolini
There was no chance the team could qualify him at the price needed. He is way to inconsistent, as you are alluding to here, good riddance. Amazed CAR gave him so much and so soon. The smell of desperation, of course, the hockey gods will ensure the guy wins the Super Bowl. 🙀 |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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Yeah Mrazek was mind-boggling. Thought the kid had a lot of upside and NHL starting goalie potential. I guess there's a reason why the Wings stuck with Howard. - Pixote Andolini
I confess that my mind is boggled by the fact that Petr Mrazek has a job and Steve Mason is still on the street. |
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I don't get why some people who are infatuated with below average to bad players. It's like they have some inferiority complex with good players, they think that a first round draft picks that isn't a top-6 forward or top-pair defenseman is a bust and just getting preferential treatment, and they want to see bad players rewarded because they try.
I get why it's easy to cheer for guys like Brandon Manning and undrafted free agents. They're guys who were given nothing and had to work their tails off and pay more than their fair share of dues to get where they are. All of that said, it does not mean that they are good NHL players. Heck, if someone told me they'd let me play professional hockey for a living, I'd do the same, but it doesn't mean I'd be any good at it. Being a hard worker and good teammate is something to admire, but it does not equate to being good.
/end rant. - jmatchett383
I knew you were Pat Fallon in disguise! Finally, proof!!
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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I confess that my mind is boggled by the fact that Petr Mrazek has a job and Steve Mason is still on the street. - johndewar
Yeah, it really makes me wonder if Mason is getting a rep as a locker room malcontent or a prima donna. Even though he had a forgettable season last year, looking at the total body of work for both guys, I'd take Mason over Mrazek easily.
There has to be more to the story. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I knew you were Pat Fallon in disguise! Finally, proof!! - coffee junkie
Pat Falloon never lived up to his hype, but the guy did have a handful of 20+ goal seasons. He was a capable top-9 winger, but he'll always be best remember as the guy taken after Eric Lindros; remember, nobody remembers who is taken second. |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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Yeah, it really makes me wonder if Mason is getting a rep as a locker room malcontent or a prima donna. Even though he had a forgettable season last year, looking at the total body of work for both guys, I'd take Mason over Mrazek easily.
There has to be more to the story. - BiggE
Yep, that's what I'm starting to think, as well. |
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cdearth23
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Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA Joined: 08.06.2015
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Looking objectively at the talent and injury history of the Flyers current available for NHL duty goalies not named Carter Hart, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Hart was their #1 by the all star break.
Reasons?
Elliott is better off at this point in his career as a backup/mentor than as a #1
Lyon is an NHL backup at best
Stolarz will probably be hurt by mid season, and even if not he’ll likely need a full AHL season just to get back to where he was prior to last season
And, Neuvirth will probably blow out both knees bending down to tie his skates day one of camp - BiggE
I feel the same. I think Elliott would be ideal back-up/mentor. But, don't sleep on Stolie. Yes, he missed most of the year. Yes, he will need to see game action. Unless Hart is playing lights out, I could see Hexy picking a healthy Stolie over Hart this year. After this season, I believe it is Hart's net. Sandstrom, if he comes over, will push him. Stolie may become a strong trade chip. Lyon is AHL.
This, of course, is just my opinion. I just think that Carter Hart would have to be having a tremendous year in AHL for Hexy to "rush" his plan and bring him up. I'd love to see it but I'm not as optimistic.
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cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA Joined: 08.06.2015
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Yeah, it really makes me wonder if Mason is getting a rep as a locker room malcontent or a prima donna. Even though he had a forgettable season last year, looking at the total body of work for both guys, I'd take Mason over Mrazek easily.
There has to be more to the story. - BiggE
Agreed. Also, why did we choose to sign Nuevy over Mason essentially? Has to be more to the injury goalie coach/Flyers fallout. |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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All 5 goalies will stay healthy for upwards of 3 months. Elliott will get injured putting Neuvirth into a steady starter role. Within the first 3 periods of him as the starter he will also get injured forcing us to use Lyon and Stolarz. |
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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees Joined: 03.28.2008
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All 5 goalies will stay healthy for upwards of 3 months. Elliott will get injured putting Neuvirth into a steady starter role. Within the first 3 periods of him as the starter he will also get injured forcing us to use Lyon and Stolarz. - YuenglingJagr
perfect scenario for seeing Carter Hart in the nhl this season |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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Pat Falloon never lived up to his hype, but the guy did have a handful of 20+ goal seasons. He was a capable top-9 winger, but he'll always be best remember as the guy taken after Eric Lindros; remember, nobody remembers who is taken second. - jmatchett383
James vanRiemsdyk begs to differ. |
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Sinisalo4vr
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Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA Joined: 06.24.2016
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Mrazek had a fair shot to show the team what he could do, and I’m glad he’s not coming back.
That said I have little confidence in Elliot playing more then 40-45 games and no confidence in Neuvy staying healthy.
Lyon and Stollie are not NHL starters imo.
I think with the current roster of goalies just letting things play out has a lot of potential to backfire. - Marc D
After that shutout against Montreal in February, his record was 4-11 with a .879 SV Percentage. He was terrible. |
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Sinisalo4vr
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Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA Joined: 06.24.2016
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After that shutout against Montreal in February, his record was 4-11 with a .879 SV Percentage. He was terrible. - Sinisalo4vr
What happened to him? |
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