Like I said, I like Hayes. You basically repeated my assertion. What worries me is that he’s naturrally a big guy. He lost a lot of weight in the couple of offseason. I just said it’s risky to commit long term. It’s a battle. Will he continue putting in the work every year? What if he suffers an injury that keeps him from training?Look how Smith showed up out of shape last year
- junaka3

Starting with the premise that there is risk in every deal, I actually think a 5 year deal for Hayes would be a low risk deal. Hayes just turned 26 years old, so a five year deal would lock him up through the prime years of his career. And if it's somewhere around the $5 million mark, I actually think that deal has the potential to be a bargain for what he brings. He's already proven he is around a 45 point player who adds a great deal defensively. And I think he can achieve a modest improvement of those numbers to bring him up to around the 50 point mark. That's good value for a very good defensive center that also contributes solid offensive numbers.

Starting with the premise that their risk in every deal, I actually think a 5 year deal for Hayes would be a low risk deal. Hayes just turned 26 years old, so a five year deal would lock him up through the prime years of his career. And if it's somewhere around the $5 million mark, I actually think that deal has the potential to be a bargain for what he brings. He's already proven he is around a 45 point player who adds a great deal defensively. And I think he can achieve a modest improvement of those numbers to bring him up to around the 50 point mark. That's good value for a very good defensive center that also contributes solid offensive numbers.
- Pete V

yeah, that deal is a no brainer

not saying I wouldn't deal Hayes in the right deal either, but if he's sticking around, and it looks like he will, really have no problem with a 5 year 28 mil kind of deal for him.

Like I said, I like Hayes. You basically repeated my assertion. What worries me is that he’s naturrally a big guy. He lost a lot of weight in the couple of offseason. I just said it’s risky to commit long term. It’s a battle. Will he continue putting in the work every year? What if he suffers an injury that keeps him from training?Look how Smith showed up out of shape last year
- junaka3

You could worry about that for every contract that is ever signed. He also wasnt fat when he made the decision to train harder to improve his game. He just felt his fitness level wasn't up to snuff and made the commitment to get better. I think that speaks more to the player/athlete he is than your notion he is a " naturally big guy", or whatever that means.

You could worry about that for every contract that is ever signed. He also wasnt fat when he made the decision to train harder to improve his game. He just felt his fitness level wasn't up to snuff and made the commitment to get better. I think that speaks more to the player/athlete he is than your notion he is a " naturally big guy", or whatever that means.
- tbreinold

I'm a naturally big guy

if you know what I mean

You could worry about that for every contract that is ever signed. He also wasnt fat when he made the decision to train harder to improve his game. He just felt his fitness level wasn't up to snuff and made the commitment to get better. I think that speaks more to the player/athlete he is than your notion he is a " naturally big guy", or whatever that means.
- tbreinold

I will show you a naturally big guy

I will show you a naturally big guy
- mdw7413

- jimbro83

- mdw7413

Big Naturals

Big Naturals
- JRR1285

Not the best site

- NYRangers1124

Ironically, her boobs were nowhere near spectacular.

Not that there is anything wrong with that. Or isn't.

Not the best site
- mdw7413

We can always count on you.

We can always count on you.
- Tonybere

JRR is probably worse than me.

Fun offseason so far

Fun offseason so far
- TPC

yeah brutal

yeah brutal
- jimbro83

I was at SPAC last weekend for two Dave Matthew's Band shows...helped a little

I was at SPAC last weekend for two Dave Matthew's Band shows...helped a little
- TPC

Raptors just acquired Leonard, so in your face Sixers

I was at SPAC last weekend for two Dave Matthew's Band shows...helped a little
- TPC

I'd rather listen to Yanni on a 5 hour road traip

JRR is probably worse than me.
- mdw7413

Only because he has a kid sleeping in the next room! And even then I'd say it's debatable!!

Raptors just acquired Leonard, so in your face Sixers
- jimbro83

I didn't want him anyway...he is a turning into a B who is just going to go to LA anyway.

I am more pissed Phils didn't get Machado

I didn't want him anyway...he is a turning into a B who is just going to go to LA anyway.

I am more pissed Phils didn't get Machado
- TPC

he must be losing at least 5 million dollars by going from Texas to Toronto this year

at least 5 million

he must be losing at least 5 million dollars by going from Texas to Toronto this year

at least 5 million
- jimbro83

He's got a $3m trade kicker. Meaning, he gets paid $3m more if he's traded. I'm assuming players in states like Texas and Florida get that fairly often

I'd rather listen to Yanni on a 5 hour road traip
- mdw7413

Good listen to Yanni for 5 hours

More Dave for me

He's got a $3m trade kicker. Meaning, he gets paid $3m more if he's traded. I'm assuming players in states like Texas and Florida get that fairly often
- picklerick

wonder if that's okay in the NHL...

I didn't want him anyway...he is a turning into a B who is just going to go to LA anyway.

I am more pissed Phils didn't get Machado
- TPC

Don't worry, he'll be back on the East Coast in a Yankee uniform next season so you can watch him more often

JRR is probably worse than me.
- mdw7413

I don't know about that Buffalo Bill.