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HawksHype
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jul 17 @ 1:25 PM ET
Well Toews has been anemic without Hossa/Kane carrying him either

Anisimov plays a very good 2 way game. Nothing flashy but consistently goes to the net, scores 20g, plays very responsible defensively

And no one player shuts down another player or line

- PatShart


I find the first two paragraphs pretty hilarious.

2015-2017 Seasons

Toews: 28/21/20 G, 30/37/32 A, 58/58/52 Pts, +16/+7/-1, 58.5/54.9/57.9 FO%
Anisimov: 20/22/20 G, 22/23/20 A, 42/45/40 Pts, +8/+9/-17, 44.1/45.1/45.7 FO%

Yes, I get the salary issue here. But you can take the bolded part and apply it for Toews 100%. And those are Anisimov #'s while being carried by Panarin and Kane.

I do get what you're saying in response to what someone else said. I think I'm just piggybacking off your comment to address another posters comment. I also wouldn't call either "anemic" without a player. Both have been very consistent with goals/points without their stud linemates.
jv526
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: southside, IL
Joined: 04.06.2013

Jul 17 @ 1:30 PM ET
just got an email........A very limited number of 9-Game Hull Plans remain on the 300 level of the United Center for the 2018-19 season! TO PURCHASE YOUR PLAN NOW:
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 17 @ 1:36 PM ET
Duchene - Malkin - Kane
Panarin - Schmaltz - Boedker
Simmons - Toews - Skinner
DeBrincat - Wilson - Saad

- DarthKane

Toews 3rd line over Wilson?
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 17 @ 1:37 PM ET
just got an email........A very limited number of 9-Game Hull Plans remain on the 300 level of the United Center for the 2018-19 season! TO PURCHASE YOUR PLAN NOW:
- jv526

Does it come with drinks with Bobby at every game?
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jul 17 @ 1:37 PM ET
You said you did not think Boqvist would be available AFTER the draft. Not a word on the kid BEFORE the draft. For reference I said BEFORE the draft would love Kotkanieni but didn't think he'd fall to 8. The difference between you and me.

Now I understand you'll be spouting you wanted Bovquist all along, assuming he hits as a player, and I'll be here for you 2-4-9-14 yrs from now.

Again as far as Matthews "disappearing" as a 20 yr old vs Bergeron, the best shutdown player on earth, (although I guess you dispute that the evidence being Baaaahston doesn't win enough(?), I'll let your words stand on their own. As the saying goes when an opponent is shooting themselves in the head step back and do nothing to stop him.

The shovel is yours, proceed.

- Mr Ricochet


MrR - Do you even read what you write? What makes you believe that you can tell other posters what they actually think or what they actually thought? When I post I have absolutely no need whatsoever to post anything other then what I actually think. Maybe you have such a need - I don’t, others don’t.

The Hawks just made a trade involving Hossa. Included in this trade was a prospect named Entwistle. After researching about Entwistle I am very happy with his acquisition. You will likely say that I can’t have this opinion because I somehow didn’t post a lot about Entwistle before the trade. This is how illogical your obsession with my being happy about Boqvist being drafted is. I didn’t talk about Boqvist because I assumed some other team would be smart enough to take him earlier than 8 knowing he had only a short time before been talked about as a possible no. 2 overall. Don’t try to tell me what I thought about Boqvist on Draft night actually being available at 8 and being chosen by the Hawks at 8.

Same thinking for Merkley - I wanted the Hawks to draft him. I posted that the Hawks should do whatever it took to get him which meant moving up from 27. Just as I believed Boqvist would not fall to 8 I believed Merkley would not fall to 27. Thankfully I was completely WRONG about Boqvist but sadly was right about Merkley.

Quite frankly I don’t even understand your comments. I have stated that 1. I am very happy Boqvist was drafted at 8. 2. I am very happy I was surprised and WRONG concerning him actually being available at 8. However, you seem to believe that you have won something because I did NOT promote and champion Boqvist before the Draft. I believed to guarantee drafting him the Hawks would have to move up from 8 which I knew was highly unlikely. You can post whatever pretzel logic you wish but it doesn’t change what I actually thought on Draft night. I no more thought Boqvist would be available to the Hawks on Draft night than I thought Dahlin or Svechnikov would be available to the Hawks. You are the one with the shovel - I am on the other hand just always honest.

As an aside I did in fact have a concern about Boqvist before the Draft. I didn’t like that he viewed himself far from NHL ready. Did this indicate a confidence problem? However, I suppose when you’ve fought dyslexia and been asked questions about Dahlin in every interview you stay really humble. He talks a little differently now but is still humble.

Regarding Matthews go and think whatever illogical thoughts you wish, which as I’ve previously stated are in complete opposition to the views expressed by the hockey people at CBC, Sportsnet and TSN. However, since they disagree with you they, just like me, must simply be wrong.
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 17 @ 1:46 PM ET
I'm curious as well, as to what it would take. What do you think?
- SoftServe

Wait until the offseason to see what type money and term he would want.
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Jul 17 @ 1:50 PM ET
Toews 3rd line over Wilson?
- riozzo


Obviously just Darth being his usual sarcastic self. No one in their right minds would put Toews ahead of Wilson on any depth chart.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 17 @ 1:51 PM ET
I don’t see that happening.
- DarthKane


I don't either. But if I were Columbus I would let the Hawks talk to Panarin about contract extension. He is 26. He is going to be looking for Kucherov money and term. That could be a deal breaker right there.

If it is not a deal breaker the Hawks would force Columbus to take Anisimov. Then if I were Columbus I would say ok I will take Anisimov, and a 1st, a 2nd, Forsling and Sikura (or similar prospect).

If he really wants to play with Kane in Chicago he will not sign with Columbus or anyone else this year. Columbus will trade him to someone at a discounted rate because he would be a 1 year rental. Then he can sign with the team of his choice for Kucherov money and term. The Hawks could trade Anisimov next summer and sign Panarin.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 17 @ 1:56 PM ET
Obviously just Darth being his usual sarcastic self. No one in their right minds would put Toews ahead of Wilson on any depth chart.
- BlazinMike

Hey we all know red font implied with DK
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jul 17 @ 2:12 PM ET
It's official: Ejdsell has inched his way up the jersey numbers chart from 14 to 16 and now to 17. I'd have the equipment staff hold off on sewing up his jersey. Once October hits, Ejdsell will be wearing 98.

Then Bowman can trade for Sergechev who wears 98 in Tampa, then Ejdsell can wear double zero like George Costanza.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 17 @ 2:12 PM ET
Obviously just Darth being his usual sarcastic self. No one in their right minds would put Toews ahead of Wilson on any depth chart.
- BlazinMike



Healthy scratch most nights I would think.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 17 @ 2:17 PM ET
If no other trades.

Saad – Toews – Sikura/Ejsdell
Debrincat – AA – Kane
Kunitz - Schmaltz – Kampf/Highmore
Martinsen - Kruger - Hayden

Not good.

Let's hope for at least one trade.
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

Jul 17 @ 2:18 PM ET
Panarin of course would be welcomed back, but honestly, what would it take? Columbus has there franchise forward and he mentioned on twitter he was headed back there to discuss an extension. You would certainly need to move a Debrincat or Schmaltz to get it done, but what is a realistic package to get Panarin?
MjulQvist
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 04.22.2012

Jul 17 @ 2:35 PM ET
Panarin of course would be welcomed back, but honestly, what would it take? Columbus has there franchise forward and he mentioned on twitter he was headed back there to discuss an extension. You would certainly need to move a Debrincat or Schmaltz to get it done, but what is a realistic package to get Panarin?
- nickmo2699


I'd be ok to package DeBrincat in a trade to get Panarin back. Schmaltz..maybe not that ok.

DeBrincat, Murphy and 2nd'19 for Panarin?
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

Jul 17 @ 2:42 PM ET
I'd be ok to package DeBrincat in a trade to get Panarin back. Schmaltz..maybe not that ok.

DeBrincat, Murphy and 2nd'19 for Panarin?

- MjulQvist


I'd be good with that deal! I guess I am in the dark as much as anyone. With the Murphy Salary going the other way, that would also allow for a possible extension.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 17 @ 2:45 PM ET
I hope so to, but if we could just get 4 top 4 dmen out of all this, that would be fantastic.
- BetweenTheDots


The Carolina model - which could be the reference point for how a young defense is built - is actually an on going process when you consider Bean and Fleury (the dman) have not truly cracked the starting line up. But yes they represent a process which has worked.

I just want to bring up two points in regards to our situation in Chicago. The second point refers to a centericeman.

I have mentioned in this blog how BOTH Carlsson and Tuulola may show to be ahead of maybe other prospects due to their development in top league's in Sweden and Finland. The projections so far on the board recognize Carlsson but leave Tuuola behind.

The AHL playoff experience of three games for Tuuola actually received input from a fan who saw Tuuola play quite well (according to his blog in page five. Believe it!). It causes me to pause and wonder if Tuuola is a surprise name we should keep our eye upon. He fits the smooth offensive style Chicago looks to draft. And who knows maybe he plays then later on is traded.

Anyway I am bring up M Kruger name because I suggest that he may be hungry to prove something. Not only that he is not finished, but after falling into a role player (courtesy Q) he actually does have some offensive ability. Perhaps lack of confidence and or lack of proper linemates held him back, too, although this is what happens often when you become a role player.

Someone predicted or guessed a trnaussabce year from Kruger as in 25 goals. Ok I know some of you cannot believe this is possible. I am not saying I strong hoy suggest he will turn his game around. I do, however, see a hungry okaysr with recent down time. I do know coming out if Junior Sweden he had offensive ability. Kruger is reubuted with a coach who trusts and will give him more opportunity if he shows offensive upside. Of course we need his defensive and face off game first. But I am not going to be totally surprised if he chips in offensively.

I will go as far as to say that A Luis gets a look, Luis and Kruger could surprise many a team and many opposing dnen from their third or fourth line slot.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 17 @ 2:51 PM ET
I'd be ok to package DeBrincat in a trade to get Panarin back. Schmaltz..maybe not that ok.

DeBrincat, Murphy and 2nd'19 for Panarin?

- MjulQvist


You would give up DeBrincat in a trade to get 1 year of Panarin? And if you think he will resign with the Hawks - then just sign him as a free agent next summer without giving up anything, let alone a budding star with 2 years remaining on his ELC.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 17 @ 2:56 PM ET
You would give up DeBrincat in a trade to get 1 year of Panarin? And if you think he will resign with the Hawks - then just sign him as a free agent next summer without giving up anything, let alone a budding star with 2 years remaining on his ELC.
- EbonyRaptor

Or a sign and trade, get it all upfront done now.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 17 @ 3:03 PM ET
The Carolina model - which could be the reference point for how a young defense is built - is actually an on going process when you consider Bean and Fleury (the dman) have not truly cracked the starting line up. But yes they represent a process which has worked.

I just want to bring up two points in regards to our situation in Chicago. The second point refers to a centericeman.

I have mentioned in this blog how BOTH Carlsson and Tuulola may show to be ahead of maybe other prospects due to their development in top league's in Sweden and Finland. The projections so far on the board recognize Carlsson but leave Tuuola behind.

The AHL playoff experience of three games for Tuuola actually received input from a fan who saw Tuuola play quite well (according to his blog in page five. Believe it!). It causes me to pause and wonder if Tuuola is a surprise name we should keep our eye upon. He fits the smooth offensive style Chicago looks to draft. And who knows maybe he plays then later on is traded.

- jhawk59


Tuolola had a weird season last year in sm-liiga. He started out great with something like 10 points in his first 8 games but then tailed off with only 20 points in the last 50 games. Those numbers may not be exactly correct but it was something like that.

I think the knock on him is his skating may not be good enough for the NHL. Similar to Pokka who we had here for a few years and Gilbert who will be vying with Tuolola for playing time.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 17 @ 3:07 PM ET
MrR - Do you even read what you write? What makes you believe that you can tell other posters what they actually think or what they actually thought? When I post I have absolutely no need whatsoever to post anything other then what I actually think. Maybe you have such a need - I don’t, others don’t.

The Hawks just made a trade involving Hossa. Included in this trade was a prospect named Entwistle. After researching about Entwistle I am very happy with his acquisition. You will likely say that I can’t have this opinion because I somehow didn’t post a lot about Entwistle before the trade. This is how illogical your obsession with my being happy about Boqvist being drafted is. I didn’t talk about Boqvist because I assumed some other team would be smart enough to take him earlier than 8 knowing he had only a short time before been talked about as a possible no. 2 overall. Don’t try to tell me what I thought about Boqvist on Draft night actually being available at 8 and being chosen by the Hawks at 8.

Same thinking for Merkley - I wanted the Hawks to draft him. I posted that the Hawks should do whatever it took to get him which meant moving up from 27. Just as I believed Boqvist would not fall to 8 I believed Merkley would not fall to 27. Thankfully I was completely WRONG about Boqvist but sadly was right about Merkley.

Quite frankly I don’t even understand your comments. I have stated that 1. I am very happy Boqvist was drafted at 8. 2. I am very happy I was surprised and WRONG concerning him actually being available at 8. However, you seem to believe that you have won something because I did NOT promote and champion Boqvist before the Draft. I believed to guarantee drafting him the Hawks would have to move up from 8 which I knew was highly unlikely. You can post whatever pretzel logic you wish but it doesn’t change what I actually thought on Draft night. I no more thought Boqvist would be available to the Hawks on Draft night than I thought Dahlin or Svechnikov would be available to the Hawks. You are the one with the shovel - I am on the other hand just always honest.

As an aside I did in fact have a concern about Boqvist before the Draft. I didn’t like that he viewed himself far from NHL ready. Did this indicate a confidence problem? However, I suppose when you’ve fought dyslexia and been asked questions about Dahlin in every interview you stay really humble. He talks a little differently now but is still humble.

Regarding Matthews go and think whatever illogical thoughts you wish, which as I’ve previously stated are in complete opposition to the views expressed by the hockey people at CBC, Sportsnet and TSN. However, since they disagree with you they, just like me, must simply be wrong.

- Z3Hawk


Ok guys time to drop an ongoing exchange. It doesn't matter if you prove your point because usually there is at least one person who might not agree with your interpretations

Although I usually enjoy the input from both of you, you both and this point should just let readers think what they want.

I know I am not always right. I can accept that. Irregardless of how a post is interpreted, I doubt anyone wants to read more about proving or showing how you though regarding an idea post. Enough already.

And again I really do enjoy reading both you guys input, even lengthy ones.

I will just let you know I appreciate both of your deep knowledge. I too was concerned about Boqvist, startled by the choice actually but upon post draft scrutuny on this board I have come to believe he was the correct choice.

I liked the idea about Merkely. I had early in though Samuelson would be a great mix and match choice. Wiz poop me down on picking him too early - he went as first choice in round two. Yet here again I cannot be upset as we drafted a really talented dman in Beaudin. I bet each team though would love to have a Samuelson size and style to balance out a defense.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 17 @ 3:12 PM ET
Or a sign and trade, get it all upfront done now.
- riozzo


If Panarin is willing to come back to the Hawks than he will be willing to sign next summer. The only point in trading for him now would be if you think the delta between the offense Panarin would give you versus the offense DeBrincat would give you is the difference between being a legitimate Cup contender or not. I don't think it would be - especially when you just blew the wad of cap space on Panarin and there's nothing left to acquire a top-4 d-man that would be a requirement in any scenario where the Hawks would be a legitimate Cup contender.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 17 @ 3:13 PM ET
Tuolola had a weird season last year in sm-liiga. He started out great with something like 10 points in his first 8 games but then tailed off with only 20 points in the last 50 games. Those numbers may not be exactly correct but it was something like that.

I think the knock on him is his skating may not be good enough for the NHL. Similar to Pokka who we had here for a few years and Gilbert who will be vying with Tuolola for playing time.

- EbonyRaptor

Thanks for the input. I had not heard this about Tuulola.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 17 @ 3:36 PM ET
Panarin of course would be welcomed back, but honestly, what would it take? Columbus has there franchise forward and he mentioned on twitter he was headed back there to discuss an extension. You would certainly need to move a Debrincat or Schmaltz to get it done, but what is a realistic package to get Panarin?
- nickmo2699


Oh please no, if you can sign him as a free agent great, otherwise no (frank)ing way they trade any young assets for him
MjulQvist
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 04.22.2012

Jul 17 @ 3:38 PM ET
Tuolola had a weird season last year in sm-liiga. He started out great with something like 10 points in his first 8 games but then tailed off with only 20 points in the last 50 games. Those numbers may not be exactly correct but it was something like that.

I think the knock on him is his skating may not be good enough for the NHL. Similar to Pokka who we had here for a few years and Gilbert who will be vying with Tuolola for playing time.

- EbonyRaptor


Tuulola is very different player than Pokka. More skilled and better skater, not saying he is great but don't think that will hold him back. It's going to be strenght and playing d.

I've always thought Gilbert moves well for his size? Is skating issue with him?
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 17 @ 3:40 PM ET



With the serious health concerns of CC, you might have to carry 3.

- z1990z

His health is fine, it’s his relationship with the Orginization that’s in decline.



According to my sources
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