Wouldn't it be great if the team rebounded next year with Toews, Seabrook, Saad and Keith playing like older versions of themselves and DKat, Schmaltz and Hayden bringing it up to the next level?

Keith made so many mistakes, Toews couldn't control the puck down low like he used to and Saad just couldn't score on the plethora of chances he had. A little better performance from those guys and slightly more solid goaltending I think we can at least sneak them into the playoffs. We were on the border up to Crawfords second extended absence and then we completely fell off the cliff.
- Popsghostly

It will also help if they managed to get shots through on the PP and maybe find a way for AA to be less of a train wreck at even strength. Maybe get some two way play out of whomever Kane is playing with, because giving up nearly 1 5v5 goal per game by that line was not helping anything.

Now that Jokiharju has been 'Hawk property for a couple years, I wonder if their talking about him more is both:
Natural progression of a young draftee, and;
A means of pre-empting too much talk about this year's new young draftees.

RIP Ray Emery.
- 35Tony0

Just a quick note, Jokiharju has only been a Hawk prospect for a year, not a couple. This is will be the start of his second.

There is a lot of talk because he was one of the best defensemen in the WHL last season and he was saying as early as December last year that he wanted to make the Hawks in his second year. The added "can he play in the AHL or not" throws intrigue on the situation. He's probably above the WHL level, so might as well focus on his path for some nice PR of a quality prospect.

how does Hino get 1.5 and panik 2.9 and Hartman gets $875? he had 19 goals one year ago all 5 X 5. Bowman is just to much on f puss over in regards to contracts.
- kmw4631

Arbitration eligibility.

It will also help if they managed to get shots through on the PP and maybe find a way for AA to be less of a train wreck at even strength. Maybe get some two way play out of whomever Kane is playing with, because giving up nearly 1 5v5 goal per game by that line was not helping anything.
- breadbag

Totally agree. Nothing like a failed PP to lose momentum. They just couldn't get shots though on the PP. I seriously thought Keith was aiming for shinpads.

I'm just really surprised to see talk on this board of Schmaltz getting a big contract. He just doesnt seem to have put together enough of a body of work to justify either the $$ or the term. For instance, a 5 year, $5m contract would seem a huge commitment to his production to date. Could look very bad in the future.

I would think more like 3-4 years, $4m. Or even a bridge deal at 2 years, $3m.

I'm no expert here. It just seems to me he's way short of enough ice time to justify 5x5 or better.

Arbitration eligibility.
- L_B_R

This board would be boring without the salary cap.

This board would be boring without the salary cap.
- riozzo

Pleasantly boring

Can't tell if his usual sarcasm/snarkiness or if he is serious (tho 2nd tweet tells me it might be the former). Will wait to see how Powers and others feel, but:

Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus

Boy, I'm pretty underwhelmed by Adam Boqvist so far. He hasn't popped at all while skating back and forth between the blue lines.

And the way he's standing while listening to the coaches describe the next drill? He's got bust written all over him. #analytics

DBC was reported as a likely bust after the standard drills, too.

Pleasantly boring
- Ogilthorpe2

What would a super team comprised of players from each of the 3 cup runs look like?

Can't tell if his usual sarcasm/snarkiness or if he is serious (tho 2nd tweet tells me it might be the former). Will wait to see how Powers and others feel, but:

Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus

Boy, I'm pretty underwhelmed by Adam Boqvist so far. He hasn't popped at all while skating back and forth between the blue lines.

And the way he's standing while listening to the coaches describe the next drill? He's got bust written all over him. #analytics

DBC was reported as a likely bust after the standard drills, too.
- pdx2ord

Sounds like total sarcasm to me.

What would a super team comprised of players from each of the 3 cup runs look like?
- BlazinMike

Kane
Toews
Hossa
Keith
Seabrook
Hammer
Crawford
Part canes
Part yotes

Sounds like total sarcasm to me.
- breadbag

Yeah

Powers is posting video clips

https://twitter.com/BySco...tatus/1018931199316758528

Can't tell if his usual sarcasm/snarkiness or if he is serious (tho 2nd tweet tells me it might be the former). Will wait to see how Powers and others feel, but:

Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus

Boy, I'm pretty underwhelmed by Adam Boqvist so far. He hasn't popped at all while skating back and forth between the blue lines.

And the way he's standing while listening to the coaches describe the next drill? He's got bust written all over him. #analytics

DBC was reported as a likely bust after the standard drills, too.
- pdx2ord

That is blatant red font if you ask me. Lazarus thinks he’s funny sometimes.

Kane
Toews
Hossa
Keith
Seabrook
Hammer
Crawford
Part canes
Part yotes
- riozzo

Also, versteeg and Frolik

I'm just really surprised to see talk on this board of Schmaltz getting a big contract. He just doesnt seem to have put together enough of a body of work to justify either the $$ or the term. For instance, a 5 year, $5m contract would seem a huge commitment to his production to date. Could look very bad in the future.

I would think more like 3-4 years, $4m. Or even a bridge deal at 2 years, $3m.

I'm no expert here. It just seems to me he's way short of enough ice time to justify 5x5 or better.
- Cmonalready

Short bridge deals are not as common for top 6 forwards anymore - teams have been locking them up for 5/6 year since pre-Kane/Toews era.

Here are Schmaltz's most direct comparables - I added age and TOI in minutes since the last time I post this.



As you can see, they range from $4-6.75m x 6-8 years (well, Tarasenko is $7.5m but he's an outlier). Of the players who signed a year early, their team was able to get a better deal - all but Gaudreau are on the lower end of the spectrum. Players who waited to sign after their final ELC year were able to get more value by waiting.

If Schmaltz signed now, he most definitely qualifies to be in the Landeskog / Drouin type of deal - $5.5m x 6/7 years. If he waits until next year and puts up 65 points, he'll put himself firmly in the Monahan / Scheifele range. Add in that general cap rise means contracts rise, he could get more than them. If Schmaltz waits, look to see what Larkin signs for this year because Schmaltz will get close to that next year for sure since they have the same agent (who is one of the types that wants it all).

Short bridge deals are not as common for top 6 forwards anymore - teams have been locking them up for 5/6 year since pre-Kane/Toews era.

Here are Schmaltz's most direct comparables - I added age and TOI in minutes since the last time I post this.



As you can see, they range from $4-6.75m x 6-8 years (well, Tarasenko is $7.5m but he's an outlier). Of the players who signed a year early, their team was able to get a better deal - all but Gaudreau are on the lower end of the spectrum. Players who waited to sign after their final ELC year were able to get more value by waiting.

If Schmaltz signed now, he most definitely qualifies to be in the Landeskog / Drouin type of deal - $5.5m x 6/7 years. If he waits until next year and puts up 65 points, he'll put himself firmly in the Monahan / Scheifele range. Add in that general cap rise means contracts rise, he could get more than them. If Schmaltz waits, look to see what Larkin signs for this year because Schmaltz will get close to that next year for sure since they have the same agent (who is one of the types that wants it all).
- L_B_R

Which is why his agent should be fired if he signs now, and why, unless Stan overpays, he wont be signed this season.

Tell you right now, I would much rather have Scheifele than Schmaltz for equal money.

I'm just really surprised to see talk on this board of Schmaltz getting a big contract. He just doesnt seem to have put together enough of a body of work to justify either the $$ or the term. For instance, a 5 year, $5m contract would seem a huge commitment to his production to date. Could look very bad in the future.

I would think more like 3-4 years, $4m. Or even a bridge deal at 2 years, $3m.

I'm no expert here. It just seems to me he's way short of enough ice time to justify 5x5 or better.
- Cmonalready

Thats what a 40pt center garners. If he dumps another 50-60 points this year then its an easy 5 million per maybe closer to 6

Thats what a 40pt center garners. If he dumps another 50-60 points this year then its an easy 5 million per maybe closer to 6
- fattybeef

Here is where the myth that the Hawks have "more cap space" really plays a factor.

Yes, the Hawks have more cap to work with, but in proportion to what other teams not saddled with so many large contracts for so few players have to work with, the mathematical principles of proportions will still see the Hawks constrained more than others to add salary or large contracts without quickly losing their space.

Which is why his agent should be fired if he signs now, and why, unless Stan overpays, he wont be signed this season.

Tell you right now, I would much rather have Scheifele than Schmaltz for equal money.
- Return of the Roar

His agent should never be fired for securing a deal. They have to weigh the possibility of injury or having a down year, etc etc. This year or next, either way Schmaltz is likely getting paid.

To get Scheifele, the Hawks would have had to be a bottom 10 team during their cup years. Would you give up those building years to cups 2+3? They're extremely lucky to find a player of Schmaltz's caliber in the mid rounds and that he's developing strongly.

Thats what a 40pt center garners. If he dumps another 50-60 points this year then its an easy 5 million per maybe closer to 6
- fattybeef

Odds are good he does it. He got off to a slow start with 4 points in his first 26 games, which is why he got demoted to the AHL. Since he was called up he seems to have been on a 55 point pace fairly consistently. 83rd in NHL forward total points over that span of nearly 1.5 seasons. Many of those points are at even strength so he could expand his point totals if the Hawks get him going consistently on the PP because his actual PP time is farther down the list. I think he is also showing he can be trusted in all situations with how well he handed the PK duty he did last year.

Thats what a 40pt center garners. If he dumps another 50-60 points this year then its an easy 5 million per maybe closer to 6
- fattybeef

Definitely closer to 6.

Here is where the myth that the Hawks have "more cap space" really plays a factor.

Yes, the Hawks have more cap to work with, but in proportion to what other teams not saddled with so many large contracts for so few players have to work with, the mathematical principles of proportions will still see the Hawks constrained more than others to add salary or large contracts without quickly losing their space.
- Return of the Roar

Very good post. In it's totality the Hawks are in great cap shape in this window right now but the Toews and Seabs contracts will continue to hurt as they are nowhere near playing to them. Even that aside they don't have elite young players to pay anymore, but will be able to pay Dcat and Schmaltz, so they will avoid the total cap hell they've been in for much of the last 6-7 yrs.

What would a super team comprised of players from each of the 3 cup runs look like?
- BlazinMike

Saad-Toews-Hossa
Sharp-Vermette-Kane
Ladd-Bolland-Shaw
Bickell-Kruger-Brouwer
Stalberg-Frolik-Teravainen

Keith-Seabrook
Hjalmarsson-Byfuglien
Leddy-Oduya
Campbell-Rozsival (had to)

Crawford
Niemi

"Sheeeeiiiittttttt" -Senator Clay Davis
- mrpaulish

“Double Sheeeeiiiitttttttt” - Spec41971

Water always finds its own level.

Hartman is a 3rd/4th line NHL guy. Until he gets his game more disciplined he will most likely stay on the 4th line. Those who thought he was the second coming of Andrew Shaw were sadly mistaken.
- Return of the Roar

THIS!