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Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Jul 14 @ 12:19 PM ET
Ok I'll bite.

Why would Nashville do this?

- MBFlyerfan


They don't call it silly season for a reason....


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 14 @ 12:27 PM ET
his dream and all

Seriously tho, who wouldn't love to see that. He will only be 28 or so. Of course a lot can happen by then

- nastyflyergirl


I read somewhere (might have been twitter or one of the blogs I read) that Gaudreau actually goes down to Avalon during summers.

I mean, he could literally ride a bike to where they do the "Trial on the Isle" event.

Joking aside, I'd love for the Flyers to find a way to get Gaudreau to come to Philly.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 14 @ 1:00 PM ET
Yes, the team who spent the last 5 years heavily investing into developing their own Dmen should go trade their 1C for one.
- hereticpride


Just cause he plays on the first line does not make him a first line center
pinkfloydfreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 14 @ 1:53 PM ET
Staring into my beer last night and I look up to see who is sitting directly across the bar from me. #16. He caught me immediately doing a double take and gave me a smile and a nod.
- hereticpride


Where at? Somewhere in South Jersey or somewhere at the shore?
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jul 14 @ 2:04 PM ET
Ok I'll bite.

Why would Nashville do this?

- MBFlyerfan

Because they need a number #1 center
Sell high on coots. I mean I love him as a player but realistically last year was probably a career year. And we’re talking about Norris winner here. Not Ellis or something. Preds gonna have to move dman to get center
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jul 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
We are???
- Ftown19125

Patrick gonna be #1 in a few years. Frost #2 ruby#3.
pinkfloydfreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 14 @ 2:11 PM ET
Patrick gonna be #1 in a few years. Frost #2 ruby#3.
- SMS4016


That is assuming a lot of things go really well. Frost is almost certainly going to be in juniors this year and Rubtsov's stock keeps dropping. There is also no guarantee that Patrick reaches his potential to be a true 1C.

The NHL roster doesn't even have a 3C that all are confident in at the moment.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 14 @ 2:12 PM ET
Because they need a number #1 center
Sell high on coots. I mean I love him as a player but realistically last year was probably a career year. And we’re talking about Norris winner here. Not Ellis or something. Preds gonna have to move dman to get center

- SMS4016



Do they? Forsberg may disagree.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 14 @ 2:25 PM ET
Patrick gonna be #1 in a few years. Frost #2 ruby#3.
- SMS4016


Love the optimism.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 2:25 PM ET
Where at? Somewhere in South Jersey or somewhere at the shore?
- pinkfloydfreak

Ott's in Voorhees. Basically right next to the Skate Zone.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 14 @ 3:08 PM ET
Ok I'll bite.

Why would Nashville do this?

- MBFlyerfan


Why would either team?
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 14 @ 3:09 PM ET
Just cause he plays on the first line does not make him a first line center
- corduroy


No his point totals, advanced metrics, and 2nd in selke voting does
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 14 @ 3:15 PM ET
That is assuming a lot of things go really well. Frost is almost certainly going to be in juniors this year and Rubtsov's stock keeps dropping. There is also no guarantee that Patrick reaches his potential to be a true 1C.

The NHL roster doesn't even have a 3C that all are confident in at the moment.

- pinkfloydfreak

Actually I believe that Rubtsov’s stock has or was improving.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 14 @ 3:37 PM ET
Do they? Forsberg may disagree.
- MBFlyerfan


Forsberg is a LW.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 14 @ 3:39 PM ET
Because they need a number #1 center
Sell high on coots. I mean I love him as a player but realistically last year was probably a career year. And we’re talking about Norris winner here. Not Ellis or something. Preds gonna have to move dman to get center

- SMS4016


Couturier is in his prime. With that being said, I doubt Nashville would do a one for one. Flyers have the defense prospects to the point that shouldn't and won't look to make that kind of deal.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 14 @ 3:47 PM ET
I saw RNH at a beach yesterday



He’s been invited into the cabin
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 14 @ 3:59 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Carter Hart, Charity Classic Weekend, Phila. Flyers PowerPlay
- bmeltzer


My belief in the upcoming season is something will have to change and it will be something unpopular for many of you.

Okay, so let’s say I’m wrong. Dave Hakstol has Giroux playing wing in pen and Sean Couturier centering him and splitting them isn’t even a thought. It won’t happen. Can’t happen and that’s fine.

The Philadelphia Flyers have to work James van Riemsdyk into the line up as a main core member. It doesn’t make sense to take the 7 million dollar van Riemsdyk and have him as an absolute second line winger and a second unit Power Play specialist. This is a recipe for JvR to fail. Doing what James van Riemsdyk does, he might have to take over for Sean Couturier on the first unit Power Play. So it’s really picking your poison. What Coots brought to the PP last season for the first time versus what JvR’s bread and butter.

So will Giroux push back Couturier as a second line center (Maybe third line center if Patrick just needs to be in a top six role) and/or will JvR push Coots on to the second unit Power Play.

In my opinion, Couturier can center anywhere in the top nine and be successful. Giroux and JvR are top line players that’s where you need them.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 14 @ 4:05 PM ET
No his point totals, advanced metrics, and 2nd in selke voting does
- bulet13


Advance metrics?!?!! Come on son
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:14 PM ET
Advance metrics?!?!! Come on son
- corduroy


I think you're trolling but since this is hockeybuzz I just have to assume you're an idiot
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 14 @ 4:15 PM ET
Wait...are people seriously saying we should trade Coots for PK Subban?
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:18 PM ET
Wait...are people seriously saying we should trade Coots for PK Subban?
- jmatchett383


People is a strong word
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 14 @ 4:18 PM ET
Wait...are people seriously saying we should trade Coots for PK Subban?
- jmatchett383


Yes.

I’m saying Coots might get pushed back somewhere in the line up, to some might be worse.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 14 @ 4:19 PM ET
Let the Dan Hamhuis sweepstakes begin.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 14 @ 4:21 PM ET
People is a strong word
- bulet13

Wait, was it you or ftown who trolled me hard for suggesting that we should sign one of JvR, Evander Kane, Rick Nash or James Neal mid season?
HOWSMYDICTATE
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.30.2017

Jul 14 @ 4:25 PM ET
Because they need a number #1 center
Sell high on coots. I mean I love him as a player but realistically last year was probably a career year. And we’re talking about Norris winner here. Not Ellis or something. Preds gonna have to move dman to get center

- SMS4016



Suter was robbed that year
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