Quite the opposite. Carlson had a career year. Karlsson at 68 points is an off year. If Karlsson played a full season, even on a poopty lottery team where a teammate's fiance was harassing him about his dead unborn child, he still would have scored more than Carlson.
- Unholy_Goalie

So you're saying he's mentally fragile and can't play through adversity? And you want him in TORONTO!?!? Hard pass

I just spent the past 5 or so minutes typing out a long response to UG's stupidity, only to come to the conclusion that he's not worth it.

Instead, I'm gonna go to bed so I can get up and head camping tomorrow morning. G'night, female doges!

Sucks to be you guys having to read his moronic takes, while I'm getting drunk and fishing and playing Ladderball.

Bird! One Piece mentioned Ace in this weeks chapter.

Leafs were 1 of 3 teams to have 2 50+ point dman.
- Steven_Seagull

And one of them poop his pants in game 7.

It's cute that you pretend it's as if Karlsson was on the team, that odd little stat wouldn't be exactly the same, if not improved to two 60+ point defensemen.

And one of them poop his pants in game 7.

It's cute that you pretend it's as if Karlsson was on the team, that odd little stat wouldn't be exactly the same, if not improved to two 60+ point defensemen.
- Unholy_Goalie

Or he'd have crumbled under the pressure of playing in the center of the hockey universe and only got 40pts..

So you're saying he's mentally fragile and can't play through adversity? And you want him in TORONTO!?!? Hard pass
- Puck-us-all

Or he'd have crumbled under the pressure of playing in the center of the hockey universe and only got 40pts..
- Puck-us-all

Terribly illogical.

Terribly illogical.
- Unholy_Goalie

seems soft to me

So you're saying he's mentally fragile and can't play through adversity? And you want him in TORONTO!?!? Hard pass
- Puck-us-all

Come on man, this is a load of crap and you should be ashamed.

These guys are still human, and losing your child to a miscarriage and having to deal with one of your teammates' fiance possibly being the person harassing your wife online about said unborn child is a very different scenario than someone getting stage fright cause they're playing for the Leafs under more media/fan scrutiny.

seems soft to me
- Puck-us-all

Name an equal or better defenseman who is available for the same price.

Good luck.

Come on man, this is a load of crap and you should be ashamed.

These guys are still human, and losing your child to a miscarriage and having to deal with one of your teammates' fiance possibly being the person harassing your wife online about said unborn child is a very different scenario than someone getting stage fright cause they're playing for the Leafs under more media/fan scrutiny.
- Thecakeisalie

Babcock coached Lidstrom for years. If there's anybody who could coach Karlsson, even if pressure or lack of defense was an issue, it's him.

Come on man, this is a load of crap and you should be ashamed.

These guys are still human, and losing your child to a miscarriage and having to deal with one of your teammates' fiance possibly being the person harassing your wife online about said unborn child is a very different scenario than someone getting stage fright cause they're playing for the Leafs under more media/fan scrutiny.
- Thecakeisalie

If I was being even slightly serious I'd agree with you but I wasn't..

And one of them poop his pants in game 7.

It's cute that you pretend it's as if Karlsson was on the team, that odd little stat wouldn't be exactly the same, if not improved to two 60+ point defensemen.
- Unholy_Goalie

Irrelevant.


Instead of adding a 11M cap hit, and spending the necessary assets to acquire Karlsson, just add to Rielly and Gardiner.

Irrelevant.


Instead of adding a 11M cap hit, and spending the necessary assets to acquire Karlsson, just add to Rielly and Gardiner.
- Steven_Seagull

From magical pixie land.

Name an equal or better defenseman who is available for the same price.

Good luck.
- Unholy_Goalie

Name a reasonably priced more defensive rhd that's available.

I'll wait.

Irrelevant.


Instead of adding a 11M cap hit, and spending the necessary assets to acquire Karlsson, just add to Rielly and Gardiner.
- Steven_Seagull

Love where your heads at

Name a reasonably priced more defensive rhd that's available.

I'll wait.
- Puck-us-all

There aren't any.

Judging from your join date and how much you're against Karlsson, this seems like a Pen15 alt if you got banned for your previous slur.

If I was being even slightly serious I'd agree with you but I wasn't..
- Puck-us-all

Ah, you gotta include the winky face man!

Poe's law bud, gotta remember Poe's law and have pity on people that might take you seriously.

From magical pixie land.
- Unholy_Goalie

Dermott, a healthy and confident Zaitsev, and eventually Liljegren (2-3 years). Right there’s 3, and they’re all already in the system plus two are on ELCs.

Dermott, a healthy and confident Zaitsev, and eventually Liljegren (2-3 years). Right there’s 3, and they’re all already in the system plus two are on ELCs.
- Steven_Seagull

In all honestly, I think Dubas does plan for most of our core of defenders to be home grown. I doubt he's actually chasing after Karlsson.

There aren't any.

Judging from your join date and how much you're against Karlsson, this seems like a Pen15 alt if you got banned for your previous slur.
- Unholy_Goalie

Eww no, I don't use slurs.. this is my first time posting though.. just joined up! Hey buds, don't get me wrong Karlsson is a great dman he's just not at all what is needed especially for that price ..

Dermott, a healthy and confident Zaitsev, and eventually Liljegren (2-3 years). Right there’s 3, and they’re all already in the system plus two are on ELCs.
- Steven_Seagull

You're insane if you think any of those players are even close to Karlsson's level.

(frank) Zaitsev at 4.5 million and Gardiner at 6.5 million (at least) to retain him.

Hey, look at that, 11 million total. What a coincidence.

Eww no, I don't use slurs.. this is my first time posting though.. just joined up! Hey buds, don't get me wrong Karlsson is a great dman he's just not at all what is needed especially for that price ..
- Puck-us-all

Ok Pen15.

Ah, you gotta include the winky face man!

Poe's law bud, gotta remember Poe's law and have pity on people that might take you seriously.
- Thecakeisalie

lol I'm new, don't even know how to do a winky face yet, but thanks for the heads up!

Ok Pen15.
- Unholy_Goalie

Ok

You're insane if you think any of those players are even close to Karlsson's level.

(frank) Zaitsev at 4.5 million and Gardiner at 6.5 million (at least) to retain him.

Hey, look at that, 11 million total. What a coincidence.
- Unholy_Goalie

Don’t need a PPG defenseman when you have one of/if not the best top-9 forward group. Add to what good defencemen we currently have. If you can’t find a reasonably priced top-4 guy on the market, then draft and develop one.

Don’t need a PPG defenseman when you have one of/if not the best top-9 forward group. Add to what good defencemen we currently have. If you can’t find a reasonably priced top-4 guy on the market, then draft and develop one.
- Steven_Seagull

Pittsburgh has won a bunch of cups.. I'd say line for line we match up the closest with them and that's pretty good.. they don't have a Karlsson but their top nine is toit