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Forums :: Blog World :: Jan Levine: My take on the Cody McLeod signing & Gorton’s failure to take on cap space
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Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jul 13 @ 9:56 AM ET
Butt Codi Micloud brinz da gritz?!
- tomburton99

Can you just pick a damn side!?

Do you want to tank or not? Cody Mcleod helps the tank. I thought you'd be pumped about this signing
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 13 @ 9:59 AM ET
Can you just pick a damn side!?

Do you want to tank or not? Cody Mcleod helps the tank. I thought you'd be pumped about this signing

- Bean_Dip

I'm not pumped about this signing. Mcleod is bad. I kinda care about that. But Colton Orr was bad, he actaully defended his teammates. Glass was bad, he defended his teammates. The Rangers were most likely going to be bad with or without Mcleod. The Reason why I hate this signing is Mcleod is a piece of poop. He's shown he wont defend his teammates when needed. He's dogpoop on skates.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 13 @ 10:02 AM ET
I'm not pumped about this signing. Mcleod is bad. I kinda care about that. But Colton Orr was bad, he actaully defended his teammates. Glass was bad, he defended his teammates. The Rangers were most likely going to be bad with or without Mcleod. The Reason why I hate this signing is Mcleod is a piece of poop. He's shown he wont defend his teammates when needed. He's dogpoop on skates.
- tomburton99

Will u admit AV likely told the whole team in that Nashville game not to retaliate and that’s y the entire team didn’t?
Dundee13
New York Rangers
Joined: 08.12.2014

Jul 13 @ 10:03 AM ET
Those teams tanking turned tanking into championships. It works.
- tomburton99

left out the calgary's detriots buff's edm.
for every win as as many failures or works in progress
You dont give up a yr to compete , waiting to win aint a guarentee
gotta go for it every yr
1st yr i can remember ,we arent competetive , we may not have been good
but it wasnt projected the way this team is, they thought they built good ones
but were flawed , now we aint evn building em

GOTTA BE DOLAN IS SELLING OFF ..sports entities as its put
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 13 @ 10:04 AM ET
Kinda funny, I hear it in almost every rap song, on the train every day, in the streets constantly, yet there is never seems to be any outrage by those who are outraged when others says it ....

To be 10000% clear, I hate the word but its quite hypocritical.

It's so offensive to someone but that only depends on who says it... its laughable. You want change, look in the mirror and stop using it first before you tell others to stop. (Also stop with the.. when I use it it means something different crap)

Also someone using the word doesn't make them a racist.. and idiot? yes, out of touch yes? but you cant discern someone's internal feelings and viewpoints on everything by a word they use. Judge people by their actions (when nobody is looking) and you will find out who they really are.

I just opened Pandoras box, sorry.
No further comments form me on this.

- MiloslavHorava

We're not discussing the important issues here, which is clearly the 2nd Amendment.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 13 @ 10:04 AM ET
Will u admit AV likely told the whole team in that Nashville game not to retaliate and that’s y the entire team didn’t?
- nyrangers9479

No, because you have zero proof of that. Z. E. R. O.
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jul 13 @ 10:07 AM ET
I'm not pumped about this signing. Mcleod is bad. I kinda care about that. But Colton Orr was bad, he actaully defended his teammates. Glass was bad, he defended his teammates. The Rangers were most likely going to be bad with or without Mcleod. The Reason why I hate this signing is Mcleod is a piece of poop. He's shown he wont defend his teammates when needed. He's dogpoop on skates.
- tomburton99

I feel ya. Definitely a head scratcher, but whatever, ya know? No reason to care about it.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 13 @ 10:09 AM ET
left out the calgary's detriots buff's edm.
for every win as as many failures or works in progress
You dont give up a yr to compete , waiting to win aint a guarentee
gotta go for it every yr
1st yr i can remember ,we arent competetive , we may not have been good
but it wasnt projected the way this team is, they thought they built good ones
but were flawed , now we aint evn building em

GOTTA BE DOLAN IS SELLING OFF ..sports entities as its put

- Dundee13

Detroit was terrible in the 80's. It allowed them to draft the like of....

Yzerman
Lidstrom
Fedorov
Proburt
Adam Graves
Dallas Drake
Konstantinov
Sillinger
Kozlov
Keith Primeau
Osgood
Lapointe

They used pieces to trade for the likes of Shanahan, Chelios and others to build a dynasty. But they also tanked. So congrats.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 13 @ 10:19 AM ET
Detroit was terrible in the 80's. It allowed them to draft the like of....

Yzerman - 4th overall
Lidstrom - 53rd overall
Fedorov - 74th overall
Proburt - 46th overall
Adam Graves - 22nd overall
Dallas Drake - 116th overall
Konstantinov - 221st overall
Sillinger - 11th overall
Kozlov - 45th overall
Keith Primeau - 3rd overall
Osgood - 54th overall
Lapointe - 10th overall

They used pieces to trade for the likes of Shanahan, Chelios and others to build a dynasty. But they also tanked. So congrats.

- tomburton99


Based on the draft positions of the players mentioned above, the Red Wings didn't have to tank to draft the vast majority of them. Indeed, with the exception of Yzerman, the guys that were drafted highest on the above list were arguably the least consequential to their run.

JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 13 @ 10:23 AM ET
Based on the draft positions of the players mentioned above, the Red Wings didn't have to tank to draft the vast majority of them. Indeed, with the exception of Yzerman, the guys that were drafted highest on the above list were arguably the least consequential to their run.
- Pete V



Fedorov, what a (frank)ing steal.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 13 @ 10:24 AM ET
Based on the draft positions of the players mentioned above, the Red Wings didn't have to tank to draft the vast majority of them. Indeed, with the exception of Yzerman, the guys that were drafted highest on the above list were arguably the least consequential to their run.
- Pete V

Fair point. Scouting then was soddy at best. But it doesn't change the fact that Red wings 1978/79-1985/86 the Red Wings won a grand total of one playoff game. I'm not expecting the Rangers to build a dynasty like the Wings., but if they can get as much talent as possible in this rut, go for it. I can wait.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 13 @ 10:26 AM ET
Fair point. Scouting then was soddy at best. But it doesn't change the fact that Red wings 1978/79-1985/86 the Red Wings won a grand total of one playoff game. I'm not expecting the Rangers to build a dynasty like the Wings., but if they can get as much talent as possible in this rut, go for it. I can wait.
- tomburton99


I am all with you on acquiring young talent and being patient. I, however, want the actual team to try to win whatever games they can next year. Play the young kids with some veterans to show them the way. Don't compromise a rebuild plan to try to win immediately. But, you need to try to win games.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 13 @ 10:26 AM ET
Fedorov, what a (frank)ing steal.
- JRR1285

You could argue that Lidstrom at 53 was an even bigger one
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 13 @ 10:29 AM ET
Fedorov, what a (frank)ing steal.
- JRR1285


They drafted what most believe is the second best defensemen of all time at 53rd overall. Federov as you said was a steal.

Then how about a couple more -- Zetterberg (210th overall) and Datysuk (171st overall). Lord, they mined the later parts of the draft like no team I can remember, mostly because they were ahead of the time in scouting overseas.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 13 @ 10:30 AM ET
I am all with you on acquiring young talent and being patient. I, however, want the actual team to try to win whatever games they can next year. Play the young kids with some veterans to show them the way. Don't compromise a rebuild plan to try to win immediately. But, you need to try to win games.
- Pete V

Oh this team will try. Lundqvist and Zucc will force them try. I just don't think thyey will be good.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 13 @ 10:32 AM ET
Oh this team will try. Lundqvist and Zucc will force them try. I just don't think thyey will be good.
- tomburton99



I actually fear for your sanity because they are going to be better than you hope.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 13 @ 10:33 AM ET
You could argue that Lidstrom at 53 was an even bigger one
- eichiefs9



For sure.

Fedorov is just one of my absolute all time favorites.
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Jul 13 @ 10:33 AM ET
McLeod is garbage, he is the 18th forward, lets be honest, hes not going to affect any younger players development or take away ice time.
The only reason we are talking about him is because nothing else is going on, until the comments section of this blog goes off the rails .... which should be by next page
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 13 @ 10:34 AM ET
I actually fear for your sanity because they are going to be better than you hope.
- JRR1285

Probably. They'll finish anywhere between 9-11 in the east. Mostly because the Habs, Wings, Sabres, Sens, and Isles will all be racing them to the bottom.
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Jul 13 @ 10:34 AM ET
They drafted what most believe is the second best defensemen of all time at 53rd overall. Federov as you said was a steal.

Then how about a couple more -- Zetterberg (210th overall) and Datysuk (171st overall). Lord, they mined the later parts of the draft like no team I can remember, mostly because they were ahead of the time in scouting overseas.

- Pete V


Good European scouts
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Jul 13 @ 10:35 AM ET
Probably. They'll finish anywhere between 9-11 in the east. Mostly because the Habs, Wings, Sabres, Sens, and Isles will all be racing them to the bottom.
- tomburton99


I think the Islanders will finish ahead of the Rangers this year
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 13 @ 10:36 AM ET
I think the Islanders will finish ahead of the Rangers this year
- MiloslavHorava

Good.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 13 @ 10:37 AM ET
I think the Islanders will finish ahead of the Rangers this year
- MiloslavHorava

In the Lughes for Hughes race, I hope
Dundee13
New York Rangers
Joined: 08.12.2014

Jul 13 @ 10:38 AM ET
Based on the draft positions of the players mentioned above, the Red Wings didn't have to tank to draft the vast majority of them. Indeed, with the exception of Yzerman, the guys that were drafted highest on the above list were arguably the least consequential to their run.
- Pete V


naming a team here & there is fine but the #'s go my way
# of teams that rebuild to win ...# of teams that actually do... & for how long

teams have learned that if we aint top 5 -10 material we can come 2nd 3rd 4th
for less $$ & still act like there competing ...or rebuilding

I still say DOLAN is gone by end of summer .....
Dundee13
New York Rangers
Joined: 08.12.2014

Jul 13 @ 10:39 AM ET
I think the Islanders will finish ahead of the Rangers this year
- MiloslavHorava


everyone will.... we want a #1 pick even if there aint a lemeiux or gretzky coming
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