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For arguments sake, If we don’t trade anyone, when do you see us competing? And who will be d pairs?
- junaka3

Here’s a for instance...

Seth Jones in 4 yrs will be a UFA, then is when they’ll be in a position to make a trade like that, hopefully anyway. Before you say how do you know he’ll be available then? Well did you think EK would be avaliable right now 4 years ago? The point is, Karlsson isnt gonna be the only option in the next however many years

Here’s a for instance...

Seth Jones in 4 yrs will be a UFA, then is when they’ll be in a position to make a trade like that, hopefully anyway. Before you say how do you know he’ll be available then? Well did you think EK would be avaliable right now 4 years ago? The point is, Karlsson isnt gonna be the only option in the next however many years
- Slimtj100

Fact is most don’t make it to FA. And there’s no guarentee either, Karlsson or Jones can be had ...
In 4 years Jones will be 28 and still half as good as Karlsson...and in 4 years contracts for Shatty Smith and Staal will be up and we can go for him too... good job not answering question

In a couple of years, next year's free agent class has some accelerators in it for the cost of zero picks and prospects
- KreiderBomb

Looking at next years UFA class has accelerated and maintained my bonah for a couple weeks now

Fact is most don’t make it to FA. And there’s no guarentee either, Karlsson or Jones can be had ...
but good job not answering question
- junaka3

Dude I’m trying to be respectful after you went off about no one giving respect yesterday. It’s dumb to trade for him, pure and simple. And I guess I, or we, can’t fix stupid

You can’t accept the team is a going to suck for a bit, I don’t like it either..but I’m smart enough to see the bigger picture and understand what they are doing

Dude I’m trying to be respectful after you went off about no one giving respect yesterday. It’s dumb to trade for him, pure and simple. And I guess I, or we, can’t fix stupid

You can’t accept the team is a going to suck for a bit, I don’t like it either..but I’m smart enough to see the bigger picture and understand what they are doing
- Slimtj100

Dude, I didn’t go off at all yesterday, so I guess maybe you’re not smart enough??? I did see those comments and you continue to perpetuate the narrative that was expressed . People can have different opinions without resorting to juvenile name calling or questioning someone’s intelligence. And I guess by “we” you mean the few others that join you in attacking others.

Dude, I didn’t go off at all yesterday, so I guess maybe you’re not smart enough??? I did see those comments and you continue to perpetuate the narrative that was expressed . People can have different opinions without resorting to juvenile name calling or questioning someone’s intelligence.
- junaka3

Ok your right. Trade for him.

The point in Jones was, trade for him when he has a yr left, ala Karlsson. Or whoever you can name in that situation. Not wait until he’s a UFA

Ok your right. Trade for him.

The point in Jones was, trade for him when he has a yr left, ala Karlsson. Or whoever you can name in that situation. Not wait until he’s a UFA
- Slimtj100

And my question to you was simple. When do you think it’s ok to compete. And what are your defensive pairings.

And my question to you was simple. When do you think it’s ok to compete. And what are your defensive pairings.
- junaka3

I’ve been telling you next off season I wanna go nuts in UFA and you’ve been telling me it’s not good enough because no one will be available. Meanwhile there is about 5 guys equal to or around karlssons value possibly available. It’s insanity the players that will be UFA. And they’re not dumb, they know the money will be flying around like it always does and behooves them to test that market. Just suppose for a second that Karlsson doesn’t extend with anyone and they do get to sign him, so you get him and say Panarin...and you can compete by next season. I’m willing to give up a year, you apparently aren’t willing to do that

The d pairs are hard to predict but there is a lot of hope back there atm, of which I’m more then willing to wait on BEFORE giving them up in trades. If they don’ pan out, then boom you go after Jones or whoever. It’s not difficult. Your fixated on this one single solitary player like he’s the only one worth a damn for the next 8 seasons.

Hajek, Skjei, Pionk, Shatty will all be regulars by 2020 for sure, Hajek maybe even this season. That’s not an awful top 4. Miller and Lundkvist are also highly touted, but the waiting is the hardest part. I get it. But sometimes you just have to do that

I’ve been telling you next off season I wanna go nuts in UFA and you’ve been telling me it’s not good enough because no one will be available. Meanwhile there is about 5 guys equal to or around karlssons value possibly available. It’s insanity the players that will be UFA. And they’re not dumb, they know the money will be flying around like it always does and behooves them to test that market. Just suppose for a second that Karlsson doesn’t extend with anyone and they do get to sign him, so you get him and say Panarin...and you can compete by next season. I’m willing to give up a year, you apparently aren’t willing to do that

The d pairs are hard to predict but there is a lot of hope back there atm, of which I’m more then willing to wait on BEFORE giving them up in trades. If they don’ pan out, then boom you go after Jones or whoever. It’s not difficult. Your fixated on this one single solitary player like he’s the only one worth a damn for the next 8 seasons.

Hajek, Skjei, Pionk, Shatty will all be regulars by 2020 for sure, Hajek maybe even this season. That’s not an awful top 4. Miller and Lundkvist are also highly touted, but the waiting is the hardest part. I get it. But sometimes you just have to do that
- Slimtj100

I’m not obsessed with one player. It’s just that he is easily the top right handed dman in eastern conference and he’s actually available now!! His chances of being in Ottowa when season starts are between slim and none. There is nobody that will be UFA next offseason that’s close to him. I don’t know what value system you’re using..I’m assuming by 2020 you’re talking season after next? Miller will still be in college. Smith and Staal will still be under contract. Only prospects you’re naming that you see ready, Hajek? Pionk, Skjei and Shatty already playing. That still leaves a load of other prospects. The point you’re missing is we have more than will ever be in same lineup. I don’t think you realize just how good Karlsson is, or the fact that Ottowa wants guys that can play now .... also 3 years from now he’ll still be better than anyone we have... I will never understand the logic of timing... he wouldn’t even be the oldest guy on team. Better to get him now than wait a year and wish we had. You don’t take into account that we don’t have any right D currently.

I’m not obsessed with one player. It’s just that he is easily the top right handed dman in eastern conference and he’s actually available now!! His chances of being in Ottowa when season starts are between slim and none. There is nobody that will be UFA next offseason that’s close to him. I don’t know what value system you’re using..I’m assuming by 2020 you’re talking season after next? Miller will still be in college. Smith and Staal will still be under contract. Only prospects you’re naming that you see ready, Hajek? Pionk, Skjei and Shatty already playing. That still leaves a load of other prospects. The point you’re missing is we have more than will ever be in same lineup. I don’t think you realize just how good Karlsson is, or the fact that Ottowa wants guys that can play now .... also 3 years from now he’ll still be better than anyone we have... I will never understand the logic of timing... he wouldn’t even be the oldest guy on team. Better to get him now than wait a year and wish we had. You don’t take into account that we don’t have any right D currently.
- junaka3

Holy (frank)..im talking next summer. Go look who’s available. Don’t look at just RHD either. Look at our wingers then at what’s available and tell me they don’t equal the same value to the team. RHD isnt the only position we need a great player. I’m not even talking about Seguin, who’s also a UFA by the way. You don’t think he’s an equally valued player?

Also, your not taking into account how these east teams blow us away in talent. We get EK, we’re still well behind those teams and what a first rd exit? Yippeeeee. And another thing of importance To note is those aforementioned teams won’t be able to compete with the Rangers salary cap freedom.

If thats Gordon’s plan, it’s epically brilliant not to spend this summer or make a crazy deal, and then pounce on those factors.

Also, not all these prospects will pan out. Excess is only happening if they all pan out. And you don’t wanna give up the wrong one

It’s NYC baby, it’s the gahden..players will come Ray, players will most definitely come!!

Holy (frank)..im talking next summer. Go look who’s available. Don’t look at just RHD either. Look at our wingers then at what’s available and tell me they don’t equal the same value to the team. RHD isnt the only position we need a great player. I’m not even talking about Seguin, who’s also a UFA by the way. You don’t think he’s an equally valued player?

Also, your not taking into account how these east teams blow us away in talent. We get EK, we’re still well behind those teams and what a first rd exit? Yippeeeee. And another thing of importance To note is those aforementioned teams won’t be able to compete with the Rangers salary cap freedom.

If thats Gordon’s plan, it’s epically brilliant not to spend this summer or make a crazy deal, and then pounce on those factors.

Also, not all these prospects will pan out. Excess is only happening if they all pan out. And you don’t wanna give up the wrong one

It’s NYC baby, it’s the gahden..players will come Ray, players will most definitely come!!
- Slimtj100

Holy (frank)!!!! You’re an idiot. One year isn’t making a difference. We traded for most of our prospects. They have value. There is nobody hitting free agency that comes close to Karlsson!! Our problem in the past has been signing the b level FAs that are available.. happy we didn’t do that this year. The elite guys hardly ever hit FA. I mention right D only because it’s our biggest need right now... and no. Right wing doesn’t have value of a 1st pair d man!!! That’s a fact!! What really baffles me with your argument is saying Karlsson won’t make a difference this year ( he won’t be available next year) but you think someone else will next year? You do realize that we can trade for Karlsson this year AND look to add someone that’s available next year? Do you not realize that Karlsson will be on team for 8-9 years? That in that time there’s probably a 1% chance that any of our prospects reach his level? That in that time we will be losing Staal and Smith. Maybe Shatty. That if prospects don’t pan out, we will still have one of the best dmen ever?

Holy (frank)!!!! You’re an idiot. One year isn’t making a difference. We traded for most of our prospects. They have value. There is nobody hitting free agency that comes close to Karlsson!! Our problem in the past has been signing the b level FAs that are available.. happy we didn’t do that this year. The elite guys hardly ever hit FA. I mention right D only because it’s our biggest need right now... and no. Right wing doesn’t have value of a 1st pair d man!!! That’s a fact!! What really baffles me with your argument is saying Karlsson won’t make a difference this year ( he won’t be available next year) but you think someone else will next year? You do realize that we can trade for Karlsson this year AND look to add someone that’s available next year? Do you not realize that Karlsson will be on team for 8-9 years? That in that time there’s probably a 1% chance that any of our prospects reach his level? That in that time we will be losing Staal and Smith. Maybe Shatty. That if prospects don’t pan out, we will still have one of the best dmen ever?
- junaka3

I can’t anymore IDIOT. I was trying not to insult you you (frank). What happen to respect you piece of shyt?

You’re as dumb as it gets, seriously. Last I checked you need to score goals you (frank)ing moron!!

I can’t anymore IDIOT. I was trying not to insult you you (frank). What happen to respect you piece of shyt?

You’re as dumb as it gets, seriously. Last I checked you need to score goals you (frank)ing moron!!
- Slimtj100

- 21peter

You (frank) off too!!!!

You (frank) off too!!!!
- Slimtj100

I'm stuck here...

I'm stuck here...

- 21peter

Fairly ironic

I'm stuck here...

- 21peter

Goodfellas!?

Goodfellas!?
- rrentz

Yup.

TJ:

https://twitter.com/FreeM...tatus/1018070567864426496

Blue shirt Banter article on the Rebuild...not the tank

https://www.blueshirtbant...rik-karlsson-trade-rumors[url]

Blue shirt Banter article on the Rebuild...not the tank

https://www.blueshirtbant...rik-karlsson-trade-rumors
- rrentz[url]

Article mentions that author thinks 2020-21 is when the Rangers could be a on really up swing. So rebuild for 2 years or tank for 2 years. Tamato, tamahto.

I can’t anymore IDIOT. I was trying not to insult you you (frank). What happen to respect you piece of shyt?

You’re as dumb as it gets, seriously. Last I checked you need to score goals you (frank)ing moron!!
- Slimtj100

You were “trying” not to be disrespectful??? You start your comment with “Holy F” ... you talk down like everyone should be on same page as you. Agree with your misguided logic. You contradict yourself. Your logic of waiting a year for lesser talent that may or may not be available. You shouldn’t mention Seguin, cause there’s no way in hell hes leaving Dallas. How can you say adding Karlsson is a mistake because we’d still be less talented than other teams in east? Makes absolutely no sense!! You add him because you’re supposed to be trying to narrow that gap. You think passing on him, letting him possibly go to a rival team like Tampa, cuts that gap???? Good luck thinking there’s anyway we will be close to Tampa in next 5 years... and yes, I look at other web sites. I’m well aware of “possible” free agents.. I’m just happy you were able to talk crap like you really want to, using my response to your arrogant comments as an excuse.... and yeah, need to score goals... Karlsson had more points, in a bad season , than our leading scorer
https://thehockeywriters....emen-in-the-nhl-part-two/
https://www.quanthockey.c...nts-per-game-leaders.html

Article mentions that author thinks 2020-21 is when the Rangers could be a on really up swing. So rebuild for 2 years or tank for 2 years. Tamato, tamahto.
- tomburton99

Believe me, when it comes to the draft the next two years, I get that NYR is "better off" being lower in the standings,so they have a higher % of getting better players in draft, but its a slippery slope b/c you hope that Quinn and the players are able to create an atmosphere of accountability and winning. Soooo, if they finish in last place, then so be it, but it won't be b/c of some conscious effort to do so, like in the NBA.

NHL teams don't turn into a winner b/c of one guy. NBA can do that b/c a guy like Jordan/Lebron can literally take a team from worst to first. NHL doesn't work that way. Just look at McDavid and EDM. Make cap wise decisions in the next year, and be prepared to be buyers next summer and so on.

If EK is "available" and NYR wants to trade for him, well.......that's a different arguement all together b/c of the pieces that will go back to OTT. I really just want a year to see what picks/prospects have before we ship them out. I get both sides of it, but I am on the side of not getting him this summer. I would be so pissed if someone went to OTT and became a star and we lost out on a guy who is awesome on a ELC.

NYR hasn't had that since Hank, and we won't ever see a rookie stat in lineup if we keep trading picks/prospects away for a "can't miss" superstar who's been in league for many years already.

Believe me, when it comes to the draft the next two years, I get that NYR is "better off" being lower in the standings, but its a slippery slope b/c you hope that Quinn and the players are able to create an atmosphere of accountability and winning. Soooo, if they finish in last place, then so be it, but it won't be b/c of some conscious effort to do so, like in the NBA.

NHL teams don't turn into a winner b/c of one guy. NBA can do that b/c a guy like Jordan/Lebron can literally take a team from worst to first. NHL doesn't work that way. Just look at McDavid and EDM. Make cap wise decisions in the next year, and be prepared to be buyers next summer and so on.

If EK is "available" and NYR wants to trade for him, well.......that's a different arguement all together b/c of the pieces that will go back to OTT. I really just want a year to see what picks/prospects have before we ship them out. I get both sides of it, but I am on the side of not getting him this summer. I would be so pissed if someone went to OTT and became a star and we lost out on a guy who is awesome on a ELC.

NYR hasn't had that since Hank, and we won't ever see a rookie stat in lineup if we keep trading picks/prospects away for a "can't miss" superstar who's been in league for many years already.
- rrentz

True, but adding Laine and the Jets now have a lethal scorer. Leafs adding Matthews gave them a elite scorer. Those teams stocked piled draft picks and banked on them giving them an elite player.

True, but adding Laine and the Jets now have a lethal scorer. Leafs adding Matthews gave them a elite scorer. Those teams stocked piled draft picks and banked on them giving them an elite player.
- tomburton99

Great players...no doubt....Hopefully NYR can add Kravstov, Chytil, Miller to that list