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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 13 @ 1:52 PM ET
Gardiner, Sandin, Kapanen, Sparks, 2019 1st and 2020 2nd rd pick.. Is probably something that Dorion/Melnyk would like.
- PatC80


Hope so but doubt it.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 13 @ 1:53 PM ET
I agree, they suck. But this is Karlsson. Captain, franchise player, two time Norris winner; they need at least one legit guy coming back the other way. Paying Nylander is a fair price for both sides and it's probably more than Tampa Bay or Dallas can offer. And the Leafs still come out ahead.
- Unholy_Goalie


If someone in the Sens organization is reading your comments and we end up having to send a real player their way because of your logic, I'll never forgive you.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
If someone in the Sens organization is reading your comments and we end up having to send a real player their way because of your logic, I'll never forgive you.
- TheMussel



The chance of Eugene Melnyk posting on the Leafs board is highly likely..

Mr. Melnyk, if you are reading. . You need Kapanen more than Nylander.. Cause he'll cost less as an RFA...
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Jul 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
If someone in the Sens organization is reading your comments and we end up having to send a real player their way because of your logic, I'll never forgive you.
- TheMussel



daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 13 @ 2:04 PM ET
The chance of Eugene Melnyk posting on the Leafs board is highly likely..

Mr. Melnyk, if you are reading. . You need Kapanen more than Nylander.. Cause he'll cost less as an RFA...

- PatC80


i think you just sold him on this
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 13 @ 2:05 PM ET
Still worth that price you put, as long as he's healthy and signs an extension.

If he'll trade to Tampa Bay, he'll trade to Toronto.

- Unholy_Goalie


i am sure Melnyk who tried to keep Leaf fans out of his building would love to trade EK to the Leafs
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 13 @ 2:07 PM ET
i am sure Melnyk who tried to keep Leaf fans out of his building would love to trade EK to the Leafs
- senstroll



dude!!! Melnyk's reading these comments...WTF? Are you trying to deter this? Or wait.. Are you daring him? You sly fox, you...
Mrbs71
Joined: 03.08.2013

Jul 13 @ 2:14 PM ET
Just out of curiosity, how is it the Leafs could fit a team under the cap with 3 players making at least 11 shmill per?

I don’t hate the dream...but it seems like a chore to sign Nylander and Marner for what people are hoping to cheaper deals...and now another 11 million guy? I get it that Nylander is likely part of the deal but still..Marner, JT, A34 and EK making 40 million at least? More than half the cap in four guys?! 🤔
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 13 @ 2:19 PM ET
Just out of curiosity, how is it the Leafs could fit a team under the cap with 3 players making at least 11 shmill per?

I don’t hate the dream...but it seems like a chore to sign Nylander and Marner for what people are hoping to cheaper deals...and now another 11 million guy? I get it that Nylander is likely part of the deal but still..Marner, JT, A34 and EK making 40 million at least? More than half the cap in four guys?! 🤔

- Mrbs71


You pray the leafs win the cup and salary cap goes to 90 million next year when those contracts kick in.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 13 @ 2:21 PM ET
Just out of curiosity, how is it the Leafs could fit a team under the cap with 3 players making at least 11 shmill per?

I don’t hate the dream...but it seems like a chore to sign Nylander and Marner for what people are hoping to cheaper deals...and now another 11 million guy? I get it that Nylander is likely part of the deal but still..Marner, JT, A34 and EK making 40 million at least? More than half the cap in four guys?! 🤔

- Mrbs71



Same way Tampa does it?

Hedman $7,875,000
Stamkos $8,500,000
Kucherov $9,500,000
McDonagh $6,750,000
Palat $5,300,000.

senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 13 @ 2:28 PM ET
Same way Tampa does it?

Hedman $7,875,000
Stamkos $8,500,000
Kucherov $9,500,000
McDonagh $6,750,000
Palat $5,300,000.

- PatC80


Yes for some reason TB can pay around 36mil for 4 players..but the Leafs cant
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 13 @ 2:33 PM ET
Yes for some reason TB can pay around 36mil for 4 players..but the Leafs cant
- senstroll


That makes sense.. Only, Tampa, SJ, Edmonton, LA, and Chicago are exempt from the salary cap.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 13 @ 2:51 PM ET
i am sure Melnyk who tried to keep Leaf fans out of his building would love to trade EK to the Leafs
- senstroll


If it saved him money and got him a better player than the other teams are offering, I think he'd come to terms with it.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 13 @ 2:54 PM ET
Just out of curiosity, how is it the Leafs could fit a team under the cap with 3 players making at least 11 shmill per?

I don’t hate the dream...but it seems like a chore to sign Nylander and Marner for what people are hoping to cheaper deals...and now another 11 million guy? I get it that Nylander is likely part of the deal but still..Marner, JT, A34 and EK making 40 million at least? More than half the cap in four guys?! 🤔

- Mrbs71


It would be worth it. Top 5 center depth in the entire NHL, one of the top 5 best defenseman in the entire NHL and, best of all, you prevent Tampa Bay from getting Karlsson.

The Leafs need a Karlsson just to compete with Tampa Bay as it is right now, just imagine if they get Karlsson too. You'll have to do double the work to get two elite defenseman just to match-up against Tampa Bay.

Acquiring Karlsson is one part improvement and one part making sure your direct opponent for the next 5-10 years doesn't improve at the same time.

It's a four point game in offseason terms.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 13 @ 2:58 PM ET
It would be worth it. Top 5 center depth in the entire NHL, one of the top 5 best defenseman in the entire NHL and, best of all, you prevent Tampa Bay from getting Karlsson.

The Leafs need a Karlsson just to compete with Tampa Bay as it is right now, just imagine if they get Karlsson too. You'll have to do double the work to get two elite defenseman just to match-up against Tampa Bay.

Acquiring Karlsson is one part improvement and one part making sure your direct opponent for the next 5-10 years doesn't improve at the same time.

It's a four point game in offseason terms.

- Unholy_Goalie

What changed?

What happened to the draft and continue to develop model and save all our 2nd rounds picks?

Don't get me wrong, I like this approach of going all in for Erik Karlsson, and think he would push us into contender status.. I know, I know. it's early... Dangit, I want Erik Karlsson now..


Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 13 @ 2:59 PM ET
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 13 @ 3:00 PM ET

- Symba007



It must be terrible being a Habs fan.. How you holding up? You ok?
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 13 @ 3:03 PM ET
What changed?

What happened to the draft and continue to develop model and save all our 2nd rounds picks?

Don't get me wrong, I like this approach of going all in for Erik Karlsson, and think he would push us into contender status.. I know, I know. it's early... Dangit, I want Erik Karlsson now..

- PatC80


Because a 2nd round pick for Plekanec is stupid. Why? Because it's (frank)ing Plekanec.

Erik Karlsson is Erik Karlsson. It should speak for itself.

He's not Drew Doughty, he's not perfect but he's a top-pairing RHD and the team we have to beat to get past the 2nd round wants to get him. It should be a no-brainer.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 13 @ 3:09 PM ET
It must be terrible being a Habs fan.. How you holding up? You ok?
- PatC80

meh, Habs refused to rebuild for YEARS, they are finally being forced to which I don't mind.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 13 @ 3:10 PM ET
It must be terrible being a Habs fan.. How you holding up? You ok?
- PatC80


Oh god. Did something happen?

WHAT DID BERGEVIN DO THIS TIME?

DID HE TRADE DROUIN?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 13 @ 3:13 PM ET
Oh god. Did something happen?

WHAT DID BERGEVIN DO THIS TIME?

DID HE TRADE DROUIN?

- Scabeh



Oh no, he hasn't done anything in hours now.. I mean not negotiating an extension with Pacioretty seems like a good idea.. Really shows teams that you have no interest in keeping that player.. It's a bold move..
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 13 @ 3:15 PM ET
Because a 2nd round pick for Plekanec is stupid. Why? Because it's (frank)ing Plekanec.

Erik Karlsson is Erik Karlsson. It should speak for itself.

He's not Drew Doughty, he's not perfect but he's a top-pairing RHD and the team we have to beat to get past the 2nd round wants to get him. It should be a no-brainer.

- Unholy_Goalie



While I don't think Dubas will over-react and then overpay for Karlsson simply because of the Tampa angle.. I do think we have enough pieces to get Karlsson..

Someone private message Melnyk on here, he might respond
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 13 @ 3:17 PM ET
Boom;

#Savings


Leafs PR‏Verified account @LeafsPR · 4m4 minutes ago

The @MapleLeafs announced today that forward Andreas Johnsson has accepted his qualifying offer, a one-year, two-way contract with an NHL salary of $787,500. #TMLtalk


Mrbs71
Joined: 03.08.2013

Jul 13 @ 3:24 PM ET
Same way Tampa does it?

Hedman $7,875,000
Stamkos $8,500,000
Kucherov $9,500,000
McDonagh $6,750,000
Palat $5,300,000.

- PatC80


For the record, I honestly don’t see Tampa being able to do it either. Especially having to sign Point and Gourde as well. It’s bananas

But I meant 4 guys making more than half the cap just doesn’t seem like a recipe for success. You have 5 guys not including EK making just under 38 million. Tampa would have to wheel and deal for sure...which makes me believe the Leafs would have to as well.

If we do the 3 forward 2 D thing you’d have to say

A34 makes 11
JT makes 11
Marner 8
Rielly 5
Gardiner 6? ( at least that to keep him)So very similar boat.
Not to mention that year Marleau’s over 6 hit is still there.
Hey who wouldn’t want EK, sounds amazing I’m just worried about what would have to be jettisoned and how pinned they’d be for years.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 13 @ 3:25 PM ET
Boom;

#Savings


Leafs PR‏Verified account @LeafsPR · 4m4 minutes ago

The @MapleLeafs announced today that forward Andreas Johnsson has accepted his qualifying offer, a one-year, two-way contract with an NHL salary of $787,500. #TMLtalk

- PatC80


Would have been sweet if they could have kept him cost controlled longer, but that’s a good signing nonetheless
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