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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:38 PM ET
Are the Phillies this good or does the NL just blow?

Honest question. I watch them and Nola and Hoskins are basically the only guys I fully believe in on the entire roster. (I like Herrera and Franco too but when they're off they're really off)

- hereticpride

the NL really blows especially the west
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 10 @ 10:59 PM ET
Is that really you?

If you had been invited to Claude Giroux's wedding, you could have gotten in on the bridesmaids, who might also like soulless gingers. Total missed opportunity.


- johndewar

I AM NOT A GING MY DAWG tho my beard does have some red in it
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 10 @ 11:40 PM ET
I AM NOT A GING MY DAWG tho my beard does have some red in it
- Giroux_Is_God


Apologies Brofessor, never meant it as an insult.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 11 @ 12:13 AM ET
Apologies Brofessor, never meant it as an insult.
- johndewar

He’s always wrong though, so maybe he is?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 11 @ 6:33 AM ET
He’s always wrong though, so maybe he is?
- YuenglingJagr

My life has been turned upside down
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 7:21 AM ET
Someone in the Rags thread thinks that they're Panarin and a defenseman away from contending.

Silly season knows no boundaries.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 7:26 AM ET


And while I've largely defended Hakstol....playing a less talented good soldier is a coaching weakness of his. He'd play the (frank) out of Callahan, regardless of what Callahan still has left.

- johndewar


It's not a coaching weakness of Hakstol's. He'll play the crap out a younger more talented player if that players level of play warrants it. That's been proven. It's far more of an indication of some young players just haven't stepped up and earned more ice time.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 11 @ 8:08 AM ET
Odd thought...

I was watching NHL Network and if things don't work out in camp to find an internal 3c idea how about Brian Gionta if he decides he wants to play? He was working the Sabres development camp but didn't have any contract with anyone be it as a player or coach.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 11 @ 8:10 AM ET
It's not a coaching weakness of Hakstol's. He'll play the crap out a younger more talented player if that players level of play warrants it. That's been proven. It's far more of an indication of some young players just haven't stepped up and earned more ice time.
- MJL

I’m very excited about Nolan Patrick but he isn’t nor has he shown what he’s going to be, which is why he’s been sad in a number of third periods this past season.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 11 @ 8:11 AM ET
Odd thought...

I was watching NHL Network and if things don't work out in camp to find an internal 3c idea how about Brian Gionta if he decides he wants to play? He was working the Sabres development camp but didn't have any contract with anyone be it as a player or coach.

- dragonoffrost

Gionta isn’t a center.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 11 @ 8:13 AM ET
Gionta isn’t a center.
- SuperSchennBros


For some reason I thought he was
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 11 @ 8:26 AM ET
For some reason I thought he was
- dragonoffrost


I think we just need to face it. Unless Frost absolutely blows them away in camp or Vecchione and/or Weal can show that they can be an effective bottom 6 centers and contribute on the PK, our bottom six centers are going to be Laughton and Lehtera.

Doesn't mean that it will stay that way all season, but I think that's how it's going to start.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 11 @ 8:30 AM ET
I think we just need to face it. Unless Frost absolutely blows them away in camp or Vecchione and/or Weal can show that they can be an effective bottom 6 centers and contribute on the PK, our bottom six centers are going to be Laughton and Lehtera.

Doesn't mean that it will stay that way all season, but I think that's how it's going to start.

- BiggE


I'm believing that to be so but I saw that guy (thinking he was a center) and said damn if he was available and an option I'd jump.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 11 @ 8:36 AM ET
I think we just need to face it. Unless Frost absolutely blows them away in camp or Vecchione and/or Weal can show that they can be an effective bottom 6 centers and contribute on the PK, our bottom six centers are going to be Laughton and Lehtera.

Doesn't mean that it will stay that way all season, but I think that's how it's going to start.

- BiggE



I just have a feeling Laughton is going to come in to camp carrying some of that confidence he got from the last playoff and that he received from the coaching staff.

He is coming in with a clearly defined role, unlike in the past where it seemed like the organization wasn't sure if he should be a scoring guy or a shutdown guy or somewhere in between or a winger or whatever.

Shutdown Seanie is the clear #1 center now, no questions, end of discussion. Patrick is the #2. So now Laughton knows what he is, has some confidence behind his game both in his head and from the organization. I think he runs with it.

If I'm wrong, so what? Nothing changes and they are still looking for someone like they have been.

If I'm right.....
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 11 @ 8:39 AM ET
I just have a feeling Laughton is going to come in to camp carrying some of that confidence he got from the last playoff and that he received from the coaching staff.

He is coming in with a clearly defined role, unlike in the past where it seemed like the organization wasn't sure if he should be a scoring guy or a shutdown guy or somewhere in between or a winger or whatever.

Shutdown Seanie is the clear #1 center now, no questions, end of discussion. Patrick is the #2. So now Laughton knows what he is, has some confidence behind his game both in his head and from the organization. I think he runs with it.

If I'm wrong, so what? Nothing changes and they are still looking for someone like they have been.

If I'm right.....

- MBFlyerfan


I think you're right, for the most part. I agree with Hak, Laughton did play well in that series. But what people are forgetting is that during that series, he was moved to LW and Lehtera was playing center on the line. I think Laughton's skill set is better served playing on the wing, but hopefully he can find a way to put it all together at center.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 11 @ 8:47 AM ET
I think you're right, for the most part. I agree with Hak, Laughton did play well in that series. But what people are forgetting is that during that series, he was moved to LW and Lehtera was playing center on the line. I think Laughton's skill set is better served playing on the wing, but hopefully he can find a way to put it all together at center.
- BiggE


So what you are saying is, Lehtera will be 3C opening night then...
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 11 @ 8:51 AM ET
Just found out, on WIP, that carter hart will be backing up Steve Mason for the Flyers this season. Angelo’s Flyers knowledge is astounding.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 11 @ 8:53 AM ET
Just found out, on WIP, that carter hart will be backing up Steve Mason for the Flyers this season. Angelo’s Flyers knowledge is astounding.
- Dkos

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 11 @ 8:54 AM ET
Just found out, on WIP, that carter hart will be backing up Steve Mason for the Flyers this season. Angelo’s Flyers knowledge is astounding.
- Dkos




Wait? Did that talentless monkey actually say that?

Angelo Cataldi is a poop stain on Philadelphia.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 11 @ 8:56 AM ET
Wait? Did that talentless monkey actually say that?

Angelo Cataldi is a poop stain on Philadelphia.

- MBFlyerfan

Jonesy and Morganti corrected him. He was doing a story about Hart closing his Twitter account.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Jul 11 @ 8:58 AM ET
Here's to a great day of looking into the way far away future.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 11 @ 9:01 AM ET
Jonesy and Morganti corrected him. He was doing a story about Hart closing his Twitter account.
- Dkos



Im sure it was riveting commentary.

I hate that guy. He is a gameshow host masquerading as a sports expert.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 11 @ 9:01 AM ET
Wait? Did that talentless monkey actually say that?

Angelo Cataldi is a poop stain on Philadelphia.

- MBFlyerfan

Angelo is entertaining. At this point he’s just a talk show host. Do t think he has any sports knowledge. Ever listen to the show when Morganti is hosting? He may know hockey, but he can’t host a show.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 11 @ 9:02 AM ET
Im sure it was riveting commentary.

I hate that guy. He is a gameshow host masquerading as a sports expert.

- MBFlyerfan

Exactly. That’s a great description of Angelo.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 11 @ 9:11 AM ET
I’m very excited about Nolan Patrick but he isn’t nor has he shown what he’s going to be, which is why he’s been sad in a number of third periods this past season.
- SuperSchennBros


Same. I think he's going to have a really good season based on what we saw in the second half of last season.
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