(frank)ing disgrace Sundin never had the players they have today to play with.
- Unholy_Goalie

Yeah he carried a bunch of guys. I could have scored twenty goals with him.

agreed... could you imagine what pace he would have scored at?

but no no... he got an old steve thomas
- Dozzer

Berezin, Hoglund, Renberg, Modin, Ponikarovsky, Antropov, Tucker, old Nolan, old Nieuwendyk, old Roberts, old Mogilny, O'Neill, Blake, Johnny Pohl; the list is endless.

so they never tried to win?
- shmenge

tried? yes

competently? no

Berezin, Hoglund, Renberg, Modin, Ponikarovsky, Antropov, old Roberts, old Mogilny, Johnny Pohl; the list is endless.
- Unholy_Goalie

i think i deliberately blocked him from my memory

Yoohoo, sorry to interrupt fellas, but I have something for Tumbleweed.



Had to create it myself, so nothing spectacular. But as it's a rough time for the Sens these days, it'll be nice for you to show them love this upcoming season.

- sportsdataguy

Nicely done dude. Hopefully they get a good haul for EK. If the Draisatl rumours are true he'd be a great youngcenter piece to add to a young core for a rebuild/regroup.

(frank)ing disgrace Sundin never had the players they have today to play with.
- Unholy_Goalie

agreed

Berezin, Hoglund, Renberg, Modin, Ponikarovsky, Antropov, Tucker, old Nolan, old Nieuwendyk, old Roberts, old Mogilny, O'Neill, Blake, Johnny Pohl; the list is endless.
- Unholy_Goalie

(frank), that's ugly....

Love old man Marleau.. He can still hang and produce, he has a mission to cement his legacy with a cup. I think he was a great example in the playoffs to young players. Matthews knows he has to step up next time. Toronto has become about one thing, winning a cup. Tavares wants to win, took less. Kadri and Rielly same thing. Matthews, Nylander and Marner i suspect will too. Maybe Marleau will restructure his contract in the 3rd year to open up some more cap space?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

That's not a thing they are allowed to do. Restructure to save cap space. Leafs will have to unload him for year 3 of his contract. Salary will be $4mil and cap hit $6.25. If most of that $4mil salary is signing bonus then he could be a bargain for a budget team who doesn't spend to the cap.

Nicely done dude. Hopefully they get a good haul for EK. If the Draisatl rumours are true he'd be a great youngcenter piece to add to a young core for a rebuild/regroup.
- Njuice

Can you imagine Karlsson waiving to go to Edmonton?

tried? yes

competently? no
- Dozzer

Quinn tried and was competent. He made lots of trades and signings to get it done, it just didn't work out. The real troubling part for me is in the NON cap era we weren't able to be the Yankees of the hockey world and build a winner just buying players.

That's not a thing they are allowed to do. Restructure to save cap space. Leafs will have to unload him for year 3 of his contract. Salary will be $4mil and cap hit $6.25. If most of that $4mil salary is signing bonus then he could be a bargain for a budget team who doesn't spend to the cap.
- Njuice

I think he will be gone in Year 3. I wonder where... San Jose maybe? Dallas?

Can you imagine Karlsson waiving to go to Edmonton?
- Aetherial

One tire fire to another.

Quinn tried and was competent. He made lots of trades and signings to get it done, it just didn't work out. The real troubling part for me is in the NON cap era we weren't able to be the Yankees of the hockey world and build a winner just buying players.
- shmenge

the microscope of toronto.... plus ontario taxes is a pretty strong deterrent

the shanahan culture change is so far the most impressive thing to me

Derick Brassard on a short term deal would be nice

Can you imagine Karlsson waiving to go to Edmonton?
- Aetherial

He must really like cold weather..

One tire fire to another.
- Steven_Seagull

different scale though

Edmonton could very well turn it around this year.

Ottawa is going to be plain bad. Then they are going to get worse.

Derick Brassard on a short term deal would be nice
- bmoney411

Would be great if we could afford him, but I don't think we can.

different scale though

Edmonton could very well turn it around this year.

Ottawa is going to be plain bad. Then they are going to get worse.
- Aetherial

different scale though

Edmonton could very well turn it around this year.

Ottawa is going to be plain bad. Then they are going to get worse.
- Aetherial

They are gunna be a poop show

- Steven_Seagull

Well done

the microscope of toronto.... plus ontario taxes is a pretty strong deterrent

the shanahan culture change is so far the most impressive thing to me
- Dozzer

He wanted to be a Leaf legend, hes on a very good track of becoming one.

Well done
- Aetherial

The “O” is for Ottawa.

They are gunna be a poop show
- Santo_44

Jesus can you imagine Stone gets an arbitrator's award and leaves as a UFA next summer and Duchene doesn't re-sign.

Why should they, it is not like they are getting more money to stay there and if the Sens do open up the vault, is there any evidence to suggest they will surround those two with a decent supporting cast. There is literally nothing to sell any player on Ottawa at this point.

Would be great if we could afford him, but I don't think we can.
- Aetherial

I think we can afford him on a short term deal. 1 or 2 years.

Jesus can you imagine Stone gets an arbitrator's award and leaves as a UFA next summer and Duchene doesn't re-sign.

Why should they, it is not like they are getting more money to stay there and if the Sens do open up the vault, is there any evidence to suggest they will surround those two with a decent supporting cast. There is literally nothing to sell any player on Ottawa at this point.
- Aetherial

I see Stone leaving, easily. I would bet on it.

Duchene likes living close to his roots in haliburton I hear, who knows though.

They should be trading both of them....but they can't...they need to not be a bottom 5 team next year. It's a poop show