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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 10 @ 10:47 AM ET
Sure.... but Zajac costs less, for less time and is still a decent third/2nd centre option for the Devils....

Bobby Ryan and his contract is a complete mess.

- Scabeh


yeah, there's probably some other pieces involved.

but zajac does suck.

vegas is the simplest route to getting a trade done.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 10 @ 10:48 AM ET
not bad..a small discount. I figured around 10

somehow SY will figure out a way to add Karlsson im sure

- senstroll

It's a hard sell.

You'll get to live in Tampa during the winter, 0% state tax, and no one knows who the (frank) you are.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 10 @ 10:48 AM ET
Agreed.

And Callahan's NTC complicates things.

- Scabeh


Agreed.

From a previous post we were talking about the possibility of moving Horton and a second to the Habs for a sandwich. I realized that Horton would have to wave his NTC. I was thinking that a nice dinner at Buona Notte might be adequate, but I understand now that this establishment is closed.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 10 @ 10:50 AM ET
The graph sheet you posted showing cap space...can't we just have some nice #'s written down in order of cap space 1-31

It wouldn't let me quote you.

- Garnie


not just cap space..but how the money is spent.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 10 @ 10:51 AM ET
not just cap space..but how the money is spent.
- senstroll



See...it had me confused already.

*goes back to check it out*
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:58 AM ET
See...it had me confused already.

*goes back to check it out*

- Garnie


YEAH WELL IM GONNA WATCH THE GAMES!

*waits in front of TV for 2 months*
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 10 @ 11:02 AM ET
See...it had me confused already.

*goes back to check it out*

- Garnie


essentially..instead of spending 7 million on a player like Phaneuf who gives you 3.5 mil value...you have players like Kadri/Rielly/Gardiner who are signed to deals cheaper than they value on the ice

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 10 @ 11:03 AM ET
Ozhiganov: we're not really talking about him at all and I don't see him penciled into anyone's pairings.

He plays a physical game, RHD, would be in Top 3-5 in hardest shot in the league. Points and ATOI dipped last year, bit of penalty trouble. Basically a younger, quicker, better-shooting version of Polak?

- gravyface

Do you post on hfboards?
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Jul 10 @ 11:04 AM ET
It's a hard sell.

You'll get to live in Tampa during the winter, 0% state tax, and no one knows who the (frank) you are.

- walshyleafsfan


Haha yup, I love how everyone gives Yzerman all the credit like he's some God. I'm sure any GM in Tampa could pitch those few words and have players sold on that.
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

Jul 10 @ 11:06 AM ET
Several geniuses in Eklund's thread comparing Tavares' contract to Kucherov's as an illustration on what a great deal it is.

Would make a lot of sense except for the fact that Kucherov is an RFA and Tavares was a UFA on the open market.

A better comparable would be Pastrnak.

Still a good deal for Kucherov (no debate there).
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 10 @ 11:08 AM ET
I was looking at a list of UFA Cs available(believe it or not, there are a few better options than Vermette, but taxes will deter them), and I realized that Shawn Matthias actually played for the Leafs... 51 games.


That year, our top-3 forwards were Kadri, Parenteau, and Komarov, with JVR missing half the season.

What a (frank)ing mess. So far from where we are today.



That was 2 years ago.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:11 AM ET
I was looking at a list of UFA Cs available(believe it or not, there are a few better options than Vermette, but taxes will deter them), and I realized that Shawn Matthias actually played for the Leafs... 51 games.


That year, our top-3 forwards were Kadri, Parenteau, and Komarov, with JVR missing half the season.

What a (frank)ing mess. So far from where we are today.



That was 2 years ago.

- Feeling Glucky?

Insane what a semi-competent management crew can do in a short amount of time.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
Several geniuses in Eklund's thread comparing Tavares' contract to Kucherov's as an illustration on what a great deal it is.

Would make a lot of sense except for the fact that Kucherov is an RFA and Tavares was a UFA on the open market.

A better comparable would be Pastrnak.

Still a good deal for Kucherov (no debate there).

- poopstash


a lot of people dont seem to get the difference.

I saw a bunch of posts when Tavares was signed by Edmonton media and fans saying how great Draisaitl contract was by comparison. But there is a huge difference between a 21 yo RFA and 28yo UFA

the comparision should actually be against Tavares 2nd contract after his ELC.. which was 5.5 ..and then shown as a % against the current cap value.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 10 @ 11:15 AM ET
Insane what a semi-competent management crew can do in a short amount of time.
- AdamFrench

sign Vermette?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 10 @ 11:16 AM ET
sign Vermette?
- Feeling Glucky?


i would he just won a faceoff today
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:17 AM ET
yeah, there's probably some other pieces involved.

but zajac does suck.

vegas is the simplest route to getting a trade done.

- Tumbleweed



Callahan was holding up the deal.. Still injured, therefore could not be bought out..
Ottawa is screwed now. They likely won't get a huge return because they are almost backed into a corner now.
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

Jul 10 @ 11:17 AM ET
a lot of people dont seem to get the difference.

I saw a bunch of posts when Tavares was signed by Edmonton media and fans saying how great Draisaitl contract was by comparison. But there is a huge difference between a 21 yo RFA and 28yo UFA

the comparision should actually be against Tavares 2nd contract after his ELC.. which was 5.5 ..and then shown as a % against the current cap value.

- senstroll


This, 100%.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:17 AM ET
i would he just won a faceoff today
- senstroll



60 % of time...

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 10 @ 11:18 AM ET
essentially..instead of spending 7 million on a player like Phaneuf who gives you 3.5 mil value...you have players like Kadri/Rielly/Gardiner who are signed to deals cheaper than they value on the ice
- senstroll


Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:18 AM ET
sign Vermette?
- Feeling Glucky?

Vermette/Moore/Goat/Lindholm/MySister

Doesn't really matter.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:18 AM ET
a lot of people dont seem to get the difference.

I saw a bunch of posts when Tavares was signed by Edmonton media and fans saying how great Draisaitl contract was by comparison. But there is a huge difference between a 21 yo RFA and 28yo UFA

the comparision should actually be against Tavares 2nd contract after his ELC.. which was 5.5 ..and then shown as a % against the current cap value.

- senstroll


both deals are expensive but good. kucherov is only 1 year away from ufa, so pretty comparable years that tb bought - to tavares.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:20 AM ET
Callahan was holding up the deal.. Still injured, therefore could not be bought out..
Ottawa is screwed now. They likely won't get a huge return because they are almost backed into a corner now.

- PatC80


seems like this was invetible once melynk decided ryan had to be involved.


nobody wants to waive to go to ottawa. there are so few options to move him.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 10 @ 11:20 AM ET
YEAH WELL IM GONNA WATCH THE GAMES!

*waits in front of TV for 2 months*

- Scabeh



DON'T WATCH THE GAMES

You can't hide your lyin' eyes
And your smile is a thin disguise
I thought by now you'd realize
There ain't no way to hide your lyin eyes
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 10 @ 11:22 AM ET
I was looking at a list of UFA Cs available(believe it or not, there are a few better options than Vermette, but taxes will deter them), and I realized that Shawn Matthias actually played for the Leafs... 51 games.


That year, our top-3 forwards were Kadri, Parenteau, and Komarov, with JVR missing half the season.

What a (frank)ing mess. So far from where we are today.



That was 2 years ago.

- Feeling Glucky?


We did a pretty good job of keeping the puck out of the net that year, didn't have much luck scoring though.


( I could be wrong my memory's going )
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 10 @ 11:28 AM ET
YEAH WELL IM GONNA WATCH THE GAMES!

*waits in front of TV for 2 months*

- Scabeh
Pffft...who needs to watch the games when you have stats?


-James Tanner (probably)
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