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- SABRES 89

If bailey or baptiste start in Rochester, do they have to clear waivers?

Or is if they start in buffalo and get sent down?

If bailey or baptiste start in Rochester, do they have to clear waivers?

Or is if they start in buffalo and get sent down?
- Boss34

Someone asked that question and if I remember right they won't clear, so someone could grab them, I think. I hope i'm answering that right, probabaly not. Don't think they can send them down

What about the 10 game stretch where he had 5 points? Yes, he had a couple great streaks, but he also had some meh ones. You have to account for the whole, not just the best.
- Wetbandit1

You’re crazy. He had a hat trick one game. Could’ve scored 246 goals if he didn’t get hurt.

You’re crazy. He had a hat trick one game. Could’ve scored 246 goals if he didn’t get hurt.
- Hatboro_Swords

He had a 5 point game too, that's obviously basically a 410 point pace.

He had a 5 point game too, that's obviously basically a 410 point pace.
- Wetbandit1

Peterman was on pace for 160 interceptions

Peterman was on pace for 160 interceptions
- Boss34

Indeed he was...

Someone asked that question and if I remember right they won't clear, so someone could grab them, I think. I hope i'm answering that right, probabaly not. Don't think they can send them down
- SABRES 89

Ok thank you

Seams like a ton of forwards

I could see Larson and bowl u waived

Girgs has some value in my opinion
Bailey?
Baptiste?
Cj Smith
Malone

If one of these guys can step up.
Maybe Thompson?

If bailey or baptiste start in Rochester, do they have to clear waivers?

Or is if they start in buffalo and get sent down?
- Boss34

They aren't 2-way eligible. If they're sent down, they'll be exposed to waivers

Indeed he was...
- Wetbandit1

He may start this year?
Allen may be a bystander

He may start this year?
Allen may be a bystander
- Boss34

The way they're talking about being impressed with him I wouldn't be surprised to see Allen sooner rather than later.

They aren't 2-way eligible. If they're sent down, they'll be exposed to waivers
- jcragcrumple

What if they start in Rochester out of camp?

The way they're talking about being impressed with him I wouldn't be surprised to see Allen sooner rather than later.
- Wetbandit1

Hope so, kinda exciting having young high end talent

What if they start in Rochester out of camp?
- Boss34

They've aged out of AHL eligibility. Either they're on the 23-man roster, or they're sent to Roch via waiver, at which point any team can choose pick them up to play on their NHL roster

Not the same class. Will never be in the same class.

Last year: Eichel in 67 games gave the puck away 61 times. On the other side of the equation, he took the puck away from opponents a whopping 38 times (two less than Tom Wilson's 40 takeaways). All in all, #9 was a -23 in the turnover department.

McDavid had 111 takeaways and 67 giveaways - in 82 games. That's a solid +44 in takeaways/giveaways.

On a crappy team, McDavid was a +20. On a slightly crappier team, Eichel was a -25.

Eichel's Corsi was 49.7, which was 2% above his previous best. McDavid's was 53.3, right around where his career average is (53.4).

Eichel is lucky to have signed his massive deal at $10 mill per season. He's a turnover machine, not a good trait for a team leader. To date, his numbers are more in line with players in the $5 - $7 million range.

In 5-7 years we could end up viewing #9 as the Carmelo Anthony of hockey: Consistently hogs the puck and kills the flow for the rest of the offense, consistently has more giveaways than takeaways, consistently gives 75% effort on Defense / and getting back into the play (and never gets publicly called out for it by his Coach), consistently ignorant of how his teammates and knowledgeable insiders view him, and doesn't elevate the play of any of his teammates.

I hope Captain Jack figures it out sooner than later. No reason he can't play the same way Ovechkin played in the playoffs.
- Jack Straw

Well, it's nice to see we have someone who has started the " this is the reason to hate Jack" blog. I can't remember the person who quoted, "Statistics are for losers. What this tells me is that we don't really watch the games we just look at the stats after the game to support our argument. Because, the things that happen during the course of a game reflect the numbers at the end, and there are times when the things that happen cannot be controlled by the player with the questionable stats.

He had a 5 point game too, that's obviously basically a 410 point pace.
- Wetbandit1

No that's basically 105

They aren't 2-way eligible. If they're sent down, they'll be exposed to waivers
- jcragcrumple

That's no big deal send them down

They've aged out of AHL eligibility. Either they're on the 23-man roster, or they're sent to Roch via waiver, at which point any team can choose pick them up to play on their NHL roster
- jcragcrumple

Thank you for explaining it in a nice manner.
I'm sure it's been covered here

They've aged out of AHL eligibility. Either they're on the 23-man roster, or they're sent to Roch via waiver, at which point any team can choose pick them up to play on their NHL roster
- jcragcrumple

Babtiste is no more dapandle as Sokota.

Ok thank you

Seams like a ton of forwards

I could see Larson and bowl u waived

Girgs has some value in my opinion
Bailey?
Baptiste?
Cj Smith
Malone

If one of these guys can step up.
Maybe Thompson?
- Boss34

JBotts plan is to make players fight for spots. GMTM just bought everyone with picks and prospects and guaranteed them spots, which is part of the reason we are in the predicament we are in right now.
I know it sounds old school, but as soon as you tell a player they have a spot on the roster before training camp begins, they don't have much to work for except for cocaine and slapping female doges around on Chippewa at 3 in the morning.
Sh!ts got to change on this team. We may have more bottom 6 players on this roster than we have ever had right now. But some of them are fighting for NHL work vs. AHL work. And that's important.

Can we please get the winter classic jersey as the regular?
- feetontheair22

This

Not the same class. Will never be in the same class.

Last year: Eichel in 67 games gave the puck away 61 times. On the other side of the equation, he took the puck away from opponents a whopping 38 times (two less than Tom Wilson's 40 takeaways). All in all, #9 was a -23 in the turnover department.

McDavid had 111 takeaways and 67 giveaways - in 82 games. That's a solid +44 in takeaways/giveaways.

On a crappy team, McDavid was a +20. On a slightly crappier team, Eichel was a -25.

Eichel's Corsi was 49.7, which was 2% above his previous best. McDavid's was 53.3, right around where his career average is (53.4).

Eichel is lucky to have signed his massive deal at $10 mill per season. He's a turnover machine, not a good trait for a team leader. To date, his numbers are more in line with players in the $5 - $7 million range.

In 5-7 years we could end up viewing #9 as the Carmelo Anthony of hockey: Consistently hogs the puck and kills the flow for the rest of the offense, consistently has more giveaways than takeaways, consistently gives 75% effort on Defense / and getting back into the play (and never gets publicly called out for it by his Coach), consistently ignorant of how his teammates and knowledgeable insiders view him, and doesn't elevate the play of any of his teammates.

I hope Captain Jack figures it out sooner than later. No reason he can't play the same way Ovechkin played in the playoffs.
- Jack Straw

POTY

Not the same class. Will never be in the same class.

Last year: Eichel in 67 games gave the puck away 61 times. On the other side of the equation, he took the puck away from opponents a whopping 38 times (two less than Tom Wilson's 40 takeaways). All in all, #9 was a -23 in the turnover department.

McDavid had 111 takeaways and 67 giveaways - in 82 games. That's a solid +44 in takeaways/giveaways.

On a crappy team, McDavid was a +20. On a slightly crappier team, Eichel was a -25.

Eichel's Corsi was 49.7, which was 2% above his previous best. McDavid's was 53.3, right around where his career average is (53.4).

Eichel is lucky to have signed his massive deal at $10 mill per season. He's a turnover machine, not a good trait for a team leader. To date, his numbers are more in line with players in the $5 - $7 million range.

In 5-7 years we could end up viewing #9 as the Carmelo Anthony of hockey: Consistently hogs the puck and kills the flow for the rest of the offense, consistently has more giveaways than takeaways, consistently gives 75% effort on Defense / and getting back into the play (and never gets publicly called out for it by his Coach), consistently ignorant of how his teammates and knowledgeable insiders view him, and doesn't elevate the play of any of his teammates.

I hope Captain Jack figures it out sooner than later. No reason he can't play the same way Ovechkin played in the playoffs.
- Jack Straw

What?

A) That's a massive, massive leap to say that he's ignorant of how people view him, how the hell could you possibly know?

B) Everyone plays better with Jack, it's a fact.

C) You realize it took Ovechkin 13 years to win a Cup, right?

They aren't 2-way eligible. If they're sent down, they'll be exposed to waivers
- jcragcrumple

I get what you're saying, but two way contracts have nothing to do with waiver exemptions. They could agree to a two way contract, but they would still have to clear waivers to go down.

If either fails to make this team again, is another team really going to be that eager to put them on their NHL roster, at a time where they are dealing with their own roster issues? I have my doubts. I consider them both on the bubble coming in.

That's no big deal send them down
- gerbe75pts

I wish we could send you down.

They aren't 2-way eligible. If they're sent down, they'll be exposed to waivers
- jcragcrumple

All two way means is different salary.
IE

NHL salary 650k
AHL salary 150k


Still have to pass through waivers.

(This is the quintessential Nelson RFA/UFA convo)