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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 1:18 PM ET
#bringHansenback...

Can we start a movement??

- LordHumungous



This immediately came to mind.



no, we are not doing it again.

(ty booner)
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 8 @ 1:18 PM ET
Tell us what you really think?
- Pres.cup

Kids annoy me.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 1:21 PM ET
One of the reasons I argued that Gaunce was good enough for our 4rth line but the consensus around here was replace him with more capable NHLers. Then the consensus became fill needs from within all of a sudden after July 1.

- boonerbuck



except it is hard to find these guys at the price you want to pay.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 1:23 PM ET
Would one of these guys get grabbed in the expansion draft possibly? Maybe...
- boonerbuck


I am hoping Eriksson gets picked up by expansion draft, give up a second
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:24 PM ET
Your worries are unfounded, Pettersson will score 60 points this year, 25 of them on the PP, he'll also win the Calder Trophy, just for good measure. The second Canuck ever behind Bure to win it!!
- LeftCoaster

Has this statement been documented and stored away in the manvan vault.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 1:25 PM ET
except it is hard to find these guys at the price you want to pay.


- hillbillydeluxe


I would pay Gaunce 475.00 a year
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:28 PM ET
Has this statement been documented and stored away in the manvan vault.
- Makita

Closed for the summer. Re-opens in Oct.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 8 @ 1:28 PM ET
Roussel got the same term as Komorov Clutterbuck and Dorsett. I have no issue with his contract one bit.

Beagle you can bury his final year many ways

- VANTEL

We are a few years too late on Roussel. I do like him and his style of play he fits but it’s too much. He would have got half that anywhere else.

Beagle and his contract is as bad as Loui Eriksson. 22 points is not worth that money or term. I would be very surprised if he played 60 games and got 20 points.

Scnmecky or whatever his name is will be in Utica.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 8 @ 1:29 PM ET
I would pay Gaunce 475.00 a year
- VANTEL
for one goal every 4 years that is about right.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:30 PM ET
If Weber retires before: Penalty per year – NSH Penalty per year – MTL
2019-20 $3.51MM $918K
2020-21 $4.1MM $762K
2021-22 $4.91MM $543K
2022-23 $6.14MM $215K
2023-24 $8.19MM None
2024-25 $12.29MM None
2025-26 $24.57MM None


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 1:30 PM ET
We are a few years too late on Roussel. I do like him and his style of play he fits but it’s too much. He would have got half that anywhere else.

Beagle and his contract is as bad as Loui Eriksson. 22 points is not worth that money or term. I would be very surprised if he played 60 games and got 20 points.

Scnmecky or whatever his name is will be in Utica.

- thundachunk



I watched Roussel play us last year and thought "I sure wish he played for us".
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 1:36 PM ET
I would pay Gaunce 475.00 a year
- VANTEL


knowing nothing about prospects available, when we drafted him, he looked like a big kid that put up some okay numbers.

turns out he doesn't have much edge to his game, very little offense, but is okay defensively and loves harry potter.

I want more. hope these guys we signed work out.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 8 @ 1:39 PM ET
except it is hard to find these guys at the price you want to pay.


- hillbillydeluxe


That's the conundrum.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 8 @ 1:39 PM ET
One of the reasons I argued that Gaunce was good enough for our 4rth line but the consensus around here was replace him with more capable NHLers. Then the consensus became fill needs from within all of a sudden after July 1.

- boonerbuck

For me the problem is we aren’t really addressing holes in the line up. We ar just adding bodies and going with the same old line of create competition for the young guys. JB and company aren’t really filling the needs. Gifting veteran spots piszes me off so much. I wouldn’t rather see young guys with speed make mistakes and score some goals than gift these guys with spots and contribute very little offensively.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 1:40 PM ET
knowing nothing about prospects available, when we drafted him, he looked like a big kid that put up some okay numbers.

turns out he doesn't have much edge to his game, very little offense, but is okay defensively and loves harry potter.

I want more. hope these guys we signed work out.

- hillbillydeluxe


I think this years team will be more attack than defend. The transition game on the D will stink . Pouliot will be your best guy for that so it tells you what type of shape we are in.

The good news in there is help on the way.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 1:46 PM ET
I think this years team will be more attack than defend. The transition game on the D will stink . Pouliot will be your best guy for that so it tells you what type of shape we are in.

The good news in there is help on the way.

- VANTEL


I saw this in the comments on CA:

Age of players once the current 4 year contracts expire:

Jett Woo – 22
Quinn Hughes – 23
Jack Rathbone – 23
Dipietro – 23

Kole Lind – 24
Elias Pettersson – 24
Jonathan Dahlen 24
Jonah Gadjovich – 24
Olli Juolevi – 24

Adam Guadette – 25

Brock Boeser 26
Thatcher Demo – 26
Nikolay Goldoben 26

Bo Horvat 27
Nikita Tryamkin 27

Sven Bartschi – 29

This is a slow cook, development model JB&TL should have adopted years ago, but here we are drafting in the top 10, piling up a good core and developing them to have a very competitive team come 2022. There’s no speeding this up our core is young it’s going to take time, but fun to watch these top 10 talents play for Van City.


Still not sure how all these younger guys will turnout and who will still be with the team, and other changes, 4 years from now.

It is interesting to see the age spread and think drafting and developing has to be a constant.

I'm not expecting much this season, hopefully EP can centre a line or be paired with a capable offensive centre (not Bo) and not sure who that would be. 2 offensive lines would be fun to watch.

(should I be saying two lines of offence? )
thundachunk
Location: Help
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Jul 8 @ 1:47 PM ET


I watched Roussel play us last year and thought "I sure wish he played for us".

- VANTEL

He is a dam fine player. Best of the bunch. His signing isn’t bad I just don’t get what whee he fits at this point. Another mentor for JV? THe only thing I can think of is trade fodder at the deadline.

shutout47
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Merritt, BC
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 8 @ 1:48 PM ET
Baertschi Horvat Boeser
Dahlen Pettersson Eriksson
Goldobin Gaudette Virtanen
Schaller Beagle Rousell
Leipsic Granlund

Edler Tanev
Joulevi Gudbranson
MDZ Stecher
Pouliot Biega

Markstrom
Demko

If I had my way this is the line up trading Sutter, Gagner, Hutton, Gaunce and Nilsson for whatever pics in 2019 we could get!
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 1:49 PM ET
He is a dam fine player. Best of the bunch. His signing isn’t bad I just don’t get what whee he fits at this point. Another mentor for JV? THe only thing I can think of is trade fodder at the deadline.
- thundachunk


4 years from now. JB is playin the long game.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 8 @ 1:50 PM ET
4 years from now. JB is playin the long game.
- hillbillydeluxe

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:51 PM ET
Each team is so different from when they started, to who they started and ended with. A province writer compared Shanahan to Linden. Two totally different situations.

Some people just don't see the middle ground. Either wearing sunglasses or it's total darkness. JB clearly isn't perfect, no GM is. We as fans can see that there are talented hockey players coming. Might be one a year or two in one year. They are going to help Bo and Brock. Until they get here, Van needs players (poopty signings like LE, Gagner) to allow complimentary players develop. I don't really care how many picks Van has as long as they get the players they want. There is only so much room on the roster.

From 2010- 2016 Leafs had 53 picks. Pretty much 5 players in that time made the NHL. 4 first round picks and 1 6th.

- manvanfan




Cherry pick much?
Why did you choose that time period? Go back two years earlier and that number jumps up by 4.
2012-2016 results in the same 5 players making the NHL.

If you're being honest with yourself, the draft is a crapshoot. The teams who are good at drafting still miss on most their picks. The reason why Toronto is seen as successful during this rebuild is because they have acquired lots of picks.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 8 @ 1:53 PM ET
For me the problem is we aren’t really addressing holes in the line up. We ar just adding bodies and going with the same old line of create competition for the young guys. JB and company aren’t really filling the needs. Gifting veteran spots piszes me off so much. I wouldn’t rather see young guys with speed make mistakes and score some goals than gift these guys with spots and contribute very little offensively.
- thundachunk

Let's have another go round of Virtanen and McCann. The results will be different this time.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 8 @ 1:54 PM ET
One of the reasons I argued that Gaunce was good enough for our 4rth line but the consensus around here was replace him with more capable NHLers. Then the consensus became fill needs from within all of a sudden after July 1.

- boonerbuck


Gaunce
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 8 @ 1:56 PM ET
Let's have another go round of Virtanen and McCann. The results will be different this time.
- manvanfan

Sure they will.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 2:00 PM ET
I saw this in the comments on CA:



Still not sure how all these younger guys will turnout and who will still be with the team, and other changes, 4 years from now.

It is interesting to see the age spread and think drafting and developing has to be a constant.

I'm not expecting much this season, hopefully EP can centre a line or be paired with a capable offensive centre (not Bo) and not sure who that would be. 2 offensive lines would be fun to watch.

(should I be saying two lines of offence? )

- hillbillydeluxe


How many of those prospects will make the NHL. Two names to keep an eye on this year are Palmu and MacMaster. Two names right off the radar. The thing about prospects is you never know who.

I don't know if Gadjovich will ever be a Canuck. He has as much of a chance IMO as undrafted Zack MacEwan
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