Canucks need to worry about Luongo retiring early as well.




Aquillini better be sending Luongo some nice christmas gifts every year so he doesn't (frank) us over

Because the Preds chose to match the offer? They were well aware of the possible consequences and still chose to match it. Not like they had no choice.

They had ample time to workout a deal with Weber and it was nice to see a team have the balls to do something which was perfectly legal but "frowned upon" in the old boy's club.


The NBA and NFL teams receive zero backlash for RFA offers, maybe NHL GM's are just too sensitive?
- Nucker101

Didn't the recapture penalty come in after all contracts were signed? How can you be aware of circumstances if the rule doesn't exist yet?

They wouldn't have Subban, so it worked out well as long as Weber doesn't actually retire early.
- Nucker101

A lot of work and on my mobile, so i wont bother to see what Nashville could of had for draft picks. Who they would/could have been. 😁

Didn't the recapture penalty come in after all contracts were signed? How can you be aware of circumstances if the rule doesn't exist yet?
- VANTEL

You're right, but then why should Philly be punished either? I still don't get that line of thinking.

You're right, but then why should Philly be punished either? I still don't get that line of thinking.
- Nucker101

No one should be punished

A lot of work and on my mobile, so i wont bother to see what Nashville could of had for draft picks. Who they would/could have been. 😁
- manvanfan

They do draft pretty damn well, but getting a top 10 dman in his prime while most of your core is all in their primes as well is pretty great timing. Especially with the decline of the California teams and Chicago.

No one should be punished
- VANTEL

I agree. The rule should've been grandfathered in.


NHL was embarrassed that teams found a loophole and the owners/gm's that didn't think of it first or didn't have ownership backing to do the same thing were jealous.


Yet the shady LTIR stuff is just swept under a rug.

No one should be punished
- VANTEL

The players should be the ones having to pay if they retire from their contracts early. I also dont see how Nash has to pay for Weber when no salary was retained, Montreal should be taking the responsibility of the player they wanted

A lot of work and on my mobile, so i wont bother to see what Nashville could of had for draft picks. Who they would/could have been. 😁
- manvanfan

Scott Laughton
Samuel Morin
Travis Sanheim
Ivan Provorov

Scott Laughton
Samuel Morin
Travis Sanheim
Ivan Provorov
- VANTEL

Because the Preds chose to match the offer? They were well aware of the possible consequences and still chose to match it. Not like they had no choice.
- Nucker101

Aware of the consequences? There were none at the time. These contracts were proposed by agents that figured out a legal way to get the highest possible salary for their clients. The CBA was later amended to prevent them. Changing the rules to penalize teams retroactively is a prime example of the lack of integrity in Gary's league.

Maybe the NHL should send a registered letter to Scott Stevens advising him that he owes them the equivalent of 10 games from his 2000-2001 salary. Under the current rules he would have been suspended for a head shot on Eric Lindros, so using Gary's logic he should be penalized.

The players should be the ones having to pay if they retire from their contracts early. I also dont see how Nash has to pay for Weber when no salary was retained, Montreal should be taking the responsibility of the player they wanted
- phyllee

Here's a bucket of money sign if you dare

No one should be punished
- VANTEL

[ Insert Bell Emoji Here ]

Aware of the consequences? There were none at the time. These contracts were proposed by agents that figured out a legal way to get the highest possible salary for their clients. The CBA was later amended to prevent them. Changing the rules to penalize teams retroactively is a prime example of the lack of integrity in Gary's league.

Maybe the NHL should send a registered letter to Scott Stevens advising him that he owes them the equivalent of 10 games from his 2000-2001 salary. Under the current rules he would have been suspended for a head shot on Eric Lindros, so using Gary's logic he should be penalized.
- YeOldTimer

Yeah, my bad. For some reason I thought the Weber OS was a year later lol.

Still don't understand why you think Philly should be hit with a cap penalty. They didn't know about a future rule either and he hasn't played a single game for them lol, they haven't benefited from his lower cap hit vs actual salary in any way at all.

You're criticizing the league for punishing teams after the fact, yet you want to punish Philly retroactively?

Doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah, my bad. For some reason I thought the Weber OS was a year later lol.

Still don't understand why you think Philly should be hit with a cap penalty. They didn't know about a future rule either and he hasn't played a single game for them lol, they haven't benefited from his lower cap hit vs actual salary in any way at all.

You're criticizing the league for punishing teams after the fact, yet you want to punish Philly retroactively?

Doesn't make sense to me.
- Nucker101

everyone gets fecked?

I agree. The rule should've been grandfathered in.


NHL was embarrassed that teams found a loophole and the owners/gm's that didn't think of it first or didn't have ownership backing to do the same thing were jealous.


Yet the shady LTIR stuff is just swept under a rug.
- Nucker101

It will be interesting to see what happens when Luongo retires before his contract is up. If he has any animosity towards Vancouver he could just retire and screw them over. I doubt that's the case and suspect he will try going the LTIR route as well. He has plenty of injury history to support his case, but how the league looks at it and what they allow could get dicey for the Canucks.

Yeah, my bad. For some reason I thought the Weber OS was a year later lol.

Still don't understand why you think Philly should be hit with a cap penalty. They didn't know about a future rule either and he hasn't played a single game for them lol, they haven't benefited from his lower cap hit vs actual salary in any way at all.

You're criticizing the league for punishing teams after the fact, yet you want to punish Philly retroactively?

Doesn't make sense to me.
- Nucker101

That was really the whole point. The idea of a retroactive penalty is completely ridiculous. Why not make it even more so?

A Chicago writer had Seabrook on the 3rd pairing. Where would Stecher play then?
- manvanfan

Buffalo

Things are going to be different in Vancouver this year.
Virtanen is going to become the power forward we have all been hoping for. Eriksson will start to live up to his contract, Pettersson and Juolevi will both make the team, that will put Hutton on the short lease.
Stecher will get $2.5 at arbitration and hopefully improve his play.
Canucks new ufa’s will help bring some grit to an otherwise passive team.

Dare to dream, right guys. Honestly I hope all this comes true.
- Makita

All the negative nellies will eventually come around. Too much female dogging going on these days about the current roster and they haven't played a game yet. I'm not over the moon with the recent signings either but management felt they needed to address some issues which they did. "Suck it up butter cups!" I could handle the losing but getting manhandled so many games even with Dorsett in the lineup was painful to watch. The team is 2 to 3 years away. The team is a little more insulated so there's no rush to bring in Juolevi and Gaudette if they aren't ready. Give Demko one more year in Utica as the starter...then he'll be ready when Nilsson is gone. Baby steps ladies...baby steps.

Baertschi Horvat Boeser
Dahlen Pettersson Eriksson
Goldobin Gaudette Virtanen
Schaller Beagle Rousell
Leipsic Granlund

Edler Tanev
Joulevi Gudbranson
MDZ Stecher
Pouliot Biega

Markstrom
Demko

If I had my way this is the line up trading Sutter, Gagner, Hutton, Gaunce and Nilsson for whatever pics in 2019 we could get!
- shutout47

Ppl will think you are my alt. Are you?

The power of positivity. I found it by the woodpile.
- thundachunk

Things are going to be different in Vancouver this year.
Virtanen is going to become the power forward we have all been hoping for. Eriksson will start to live up to his contract, Pettersson and Juolevi will both make the team, that will put Hutton on the short lease.
Stecher will get $2.5 at arbitration and hopefully improve his play.
Canucks new ufa’s will help bring some grit to an otherwise passive team.

Dare to dream, right guys. Honestly I hope all this comes true.
- Makita

All is a reasonable wish list 👍
I’ll take 80% on that. Chances are higher.

We need a top center (#1 and a offensive RHD)
Keep drafting
I think we will be slightly better this year 8-10 finish.
- VANTEL

Sounds like a lot of teams need that.
Another easier route is depth scoring.
That would take a team 200’ game to begin with & where TG will start IMO.

Can we not just have somewhat realistic expectations?
- manvanfan

sorry

I've been a critic of his, but selling him low right now doesn't make much sense to me. And if he gains value that just means he's progressing so I don't think it would make sense to trade him if he has his most productive season this year.


As much as his lack of hockey sense is annoying, his speed/size allows him to break through the neutral zone and gain the blueline with possession, that's what all of the elite teams do so well. Play him with 2 smart players and you can make it work.


He can do a couple of things that guys like Roussel/Beagle and Schaller cannot.
- Nucker101

Good analysis 👍
JV is a classic example of a high pick without high enough hockey IQ. His skill set does make him interesting in that the right linemates can make him flourish. I thought he made some real nice strides last year & found some chemistry with AG. Keep EP as a winger with them & test how JV responds. JV is a tweener at this juncture being a 3rd liner when we want him a top 6. Goal is for him to be a very good 3rd wheel & played that way. 15+ goals i can see next year.