If Stone's numbers are as bad as you say, and his salary is that high for two more years, I don't see Ottawa as a good fit. Melnyk wouldn't pay for that.

Not sure any other team would be willing to take than on.

If Stone's numbers are as bad as you say, and his salary is that high for two more years, I don't see Ottawa as a good fit. Melnyk wouldn't pay for that.

Not sure any other team would be willing to take than on.
- david22

They just traded for boedker who sucks and gets paid a lot

If Stone's numbers are as bad as you say, and his salary is that high for two more years, I don't see Ottawa as a good fit. Melnyk wouldn't pay for that.

Not sure any other team would be willing to take than on.
- david22

Stone can still be a capable top 4 defender who's signed for a decent contract for a top 4 role. His numbers took a hit because everyone takes a hit when used as a bottom pairing guy.

The biggest obstacle to trading him is Stone himself. If he wants to stay in Calgary, he's going to stay in Calgary. He took less money and a reduced role to stay with the team. He has a 15 team NTC, which makes it pretty easy for him to not get traded if he doesn't want to be.

If Stone's numbers are as bad as you say, and his salary is that high for two more years, I don't see Ottawa as a good fit. Melnyk wouldn't pay for that.

Not sure any other team would be willing to take than on.
- david22

Ottawa would absolutely pay for that. I would imagine that Mark Stone isn't very happy with his team and management getting his brother to play could help appease that. Plus Ottawa is so poorly managed, they are like the Oilers of the east so of course they are going to make bad moves.

For Bennett being such a bust we sure do get a lot of fans from other teams trading for him

I hope we don't trade Bennett. The kid has the skills, we just need to give him a legitimate chance to succeed.

Give any player in the league linemates like Brouwer & Bouma to work with on a regular basis and they will have sub-par numbers as well.

Notice no one who's actually watched him play wants to get rid of him? Sure the points aren't there yet and he takes too many dumb penalties, but everything else about his game has been positive. He was the Flames best forward both times they made the playoffs with him. His line was a great possession line last year. He's shown glimpses of being able to dominate a game when he's rolling. The biggest problem with Bennett is confidence and he gets stuck in his own head. He's got a new coach now and will have a significantly better line this year. There's a very good chance he sees significant time with Lindholm, Neal, or Tkachuk, which is a significant upgrade over Hathaway and Brouwer.

Yeah, he needs to figure things out pretty quickly if he's ever going to be a star in this league and it might be time to move on if next year is a dud, but there's no way they can get a return for him that'll make it anywhere close to worth giving up on him yet.

If we follow your logic, the Leafs should probably just cut Kapanen now because he's never going to amount to anything.
- Hunkulese

Kapanen hasnt played 3 full season on the Leafs yet, and truth be told, I actually would like to trade him for help on D. Im not a big fan of his.

Kapanen hasnt played 3 full season on the Leafs yet, and truth be told, I actually would like to trade him for help on D. Im not a big fan of his.
- Holy_Makinaw99

Stone for Kapanen. Done deal.

Kapanen hasnt played 3 full season on the Leafs yet, and truth be told, I actually would like to trade him for help on D. Im not a big fan of his.
- Holy_Makinaw99

How does him not being good enough to crack the Leafs lineup make him less of a dud than Bennett? They're both 21. People don't seem to understand that the AHL is still hockey.

One of many examples.

That being said, I hope Yaks finds success in the KHL. Good kid, think he was mismanaged by EDM and never found his groove. Hopefully he can get himself on a top KHL line and get big minutes and turn his game around.
- Holy_Makinaw99

He couldnt find his groove in Colorado or St.Louis either.

How does him not being good enough to crack the Leafs lineup make him less of a dud than Bennett? They're both 21. People don't seem to understand that the AHL is still hockey.
- Hunkulese

Bennett should probably be in the AHL.....

He couldnt find his groove in Colorado or St.Louis either.
- Little Ricky

I think both had him on the 3rd and 4th lines and in limited minutes. Yaks prob should have spent 1-2 seasons in the AHL before being brought up to the big leagues.

I think both had him on the 3rd and 4th lines and in limited minutes. Yaks prob should have spent 1-2 seasons in the AHL before being brought up to the big leagues.
- Holy_Makinaw99

He was ineligible for the AHL. Came to the NHL the year after he was drafted from the Sarnia Sting. It was NHL or CHL. No other options.

At this point Bennett is the same as Yakupov. Thanks but no thanks on either.

Bennett should probably be in the AHL.....
- Holy_Makinaw99

K, you clearly have never watched the Flames play. Move along.

At this point Bennett is the same as Yakupov. Thanks but no thanks on either.
- wreckage

Um, what? Yakupov was a completely one-dimensional player. If he wasn't scoring, they weren't getting anything out of him. Bennett is a far more complete player. Yes, it would be nice if he'd start scoring consistently, but he's still a useful 3rd liner. Yakupov was never useful.

Um, what? Yakupov was a completely one-dimensional player. If he wasn't scoring, they weren't getting anything out of him. Bennett is a far more complete player. Yes, it would be nice if he'd start scoring consistently, but he's still a useful 3rd liner. Yakupov was never useful.
- Hunkulese

Bennett was almost as minus as he totaled points last year. Dont try to tell me he has an effective defensive game. He was the 3rd worst on the team. Tell yourself what you have to if you want to believe he's an effective NHL player but his stats say otherwise. There may be something there, but it's not there yet.

Um, what? Yakupov was a completely one-dimensional player. If he wasn't scoring, they weren't getting anything out of him. Bennett is a far more complete player. Yes, it would be nice if he'd start scoring consistently, but he's still a useful 3rd liner. Yakupov was never useful.
- Hunkulese

Starts 59.5% of his shifts in the offensive zone.
-0.9 corsi for% relative
-1.1 fenwick for% relative.

Its black and white bud, Bennett is below average at best. And clearly the team sees him as a defensive liability or else he wouldn't start 59.5% of the time in the offensive zone.

Starts 59.5% of his shifts in the offensive zone.
-0.9 corsi for% relative
-1.1 fenwick for% relative.

Its black and white bud, Bennett is below average at best. And clearly the team sees him as a defensive liability or else he wouldn't start 59.5% of the time in the offensive zone.
- wreckage

You just quoted +/- in your last post. I have zero confidence you even know what those numbers represent

Bennett might not ever become the high impact player we were hoping for, but if you actually think he isn’t even fit to be a 3rd liner then you have no business discussing hockey. Run along.

You just quoted +/- in your last post. I have zero confidence you even know what those numbers represent

Bennett might not ever become the high impact player we were hoping for, but if you actually think he isn’t even fit to be a 3rd liner then you have no business discussing hockey. Run along.
- Saskabush

I'm saying he is as effective as Yakupov. But Flames fans and their flames tinted glasses can't accept anything other than their players all being studs. Dougie should have won the Norris until traded. Then he was an overrated cancer.

I'm saying he is as effective as Yakupov. But Flames fans and their flames tinted glasses can't accept anything other than their players all being studs. Dougie should have won the Norris until traded. Then he was an overrated cancer.
- wreckage

You know what, you're alright in my books

Todd Cordell: What's left to do for the Calgary Flames?
- ToddCordellCGY

fold

Should try and trade Sam Bennett while they are at it. Kid will never be an impact player in the NHL, would be better to try and trade him for another struggling prosect. Too bad EDM wouldnt trade with a rival, cause Jesse Puljujarvi would make for a good swap.
- Holy_Makinaw99

Piss off

I'm saying he is as effective as Yakupov. But Flames fans and their flames tinted glasses can't accept anything other than their players all being studs. Dougie should have won the Norris until traded. Then he was an overrated cancer.
- wreckage

You should probably spend your time reading up on next years draft, cause that's all the Oilers have to look forward to. Old boys club is pretty pathetic!

I'm saying he is as effective as Yakupov. But Flames fans and their flames tinted glasses can't accept anything other than their players all being studs. Dougie should have won the Norris until traded. Then he was an overrated cancer.
- wreckage

But let me guess, your Pizza loving Fin is not a bust. Because of usage and the fact he is 1 whole year younger.



Anyways, would rather give the kid some time to find his game. Kinda like you guys did with Nuge.......sometimes being patient pays off.

For Bennett being such a bust we sure do get a lot of fans from other teams trading for him

I hope we don't trade Bennett. The kid has the skills, we just need to give him a legitimate chance to succeed.

Give any player in the league linemates like Brouwer & Bouma to work with on a regular basis and they will have sub-par numbers as well.
- Saskabush

I agree he wasn't given extended looks playing in the top 6. I blame the coach, relax OG glugheads gone!

You should probably spend your time reading up on next years draft, cause that's all the Oilers have to look forward to. Old boys club is pretty pathetic!
- K-man25

I guess that 1 win more the flames had makes them a far better team. All the while the Oilers did it while recognizing they had flawed players like Lucic and Russell and one of the worst GMs in the game. Flames fans just think their team is flawless and their results were all a matter of bad luck.