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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 5 @ 2:43 PM ET


- j.boyd919



Better not.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 5 @ 2:53 PM ET
Simon+Brassard+2019 first+2019 second in exchange for Max Pacioretty (sign-and-trade) Salary retained and Their 2019 1st FIXED IT
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 2:56 PM ET
Duclair skates fast into traffic and turns the puck over.
- EnzoD


Is that why he had 1 giveaway in 23 games for Chicago and 7 in 33 for Arizona? Really turns the puck over a ton.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 2:57 PM ET
I would only do this if the sign and trade was Montreal signing him and then retaining half his salary throughout his newly resigned contract term and we received picks from them and possibly another player. We gave up so much for Brassard already why give up another first?
- 123Kid


You smoke way too much crack kid. Put the pipe down.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
Is that why he had 1 giveaway in 23 games for Chicago and 7 in 33 for Arizona? Really turns the puck over a ton.
- j.boyd919

That guy is an idiot. Same clown who called Carlson the Caps #1 D man.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 5 @ 3:02 PM ET
Yeah, I just can't imagine anything like that.

A) I wouldn't even want to give up Simon, a 1st & 2nd for him, let alone throwing in Brassard.

B) If he turned down an 8/$64M deal from LA, I want nothing to do with a long term extension.

- MacPatty


Pens need Brassard more than they need Pacioretty. Dont @ me.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 5 @ 3:39 PM ET
You smoke way too much crack kid. Put the pipe down.
- j.boyd919


So does that Twitter account if they think JR is giving up the farm for Patches. Maybe that type of deal would happen at the trade deadline, but why give up all of our assets before the year even starts?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 5 @ 4:03 PM ET


- j.boyd919

Sign and trade and I'm OK with it, but its not the greatest deal in the world. Its at best market value.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 5 @ 4:05 PM ET
Pens need Brassard more than they need Pacioretty. Dont @ me.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

But Brassard only has one year of term and Paches would be coming in for the long haul. Max is a fantastic wing and I think last year's down year was an adoration, not a sign of major decline just yet.

Sheahan can be 3C easy. The only thing that gets my goat about this trade is that now its really unfortunate that we didn't sign Sheahan to term.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:14 PM ET
Barf on that patches deal. He will be 30, someone will pay him $7mil+ on his next deal. No thanks!

Id take Skinner over him, he's 4 years younger. Id also look at Teavu Tearavainen. 23 yrs old, RFA, put up 23 last year, Plays C, LW, RW. Patches played 64 games and put up 17....Go younger.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 5 @ 4:15 PM ET
Not sure how unpopular of an opinion this will end up being but I think:

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Pacioretty-Malkin-Kessel
Rust-Sheahan-Sprong
Hagelin-Cullen/Bleuger-ZAR

Is a better lineup than:

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Hagelin-Malkin-Kessel
Rust-Brassard-Sprong
Simon-Sheahan-ZAR
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 5 @ 4:19 PM ET
Not sure how unpopular of an opinion this will end up being but I think:

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Pacioretty-Malkin-Kessel
Rust-Sheahan-Sprong
Hagelin-Cullen/Bleuger-ZAR

Is a better lineup than:

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Hagelin-Malkin-Kessel
Rust-Brassard-Sprong
Simon-Sheahan-ZAR

- Victoro311

I agree
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 5 @ 4:20 PM ET
Barf on that patches deal. He will be 30, someone will pay him $7mil+ on his next deal. No thanks!

Id take Skinner over him, he's 4 years younger. Id also look at Teavu Tearavainen. 23 yrs old, RFA, put up 23 last year, Plays C, LW, RW. Patches played 64 games and put up 17....Go younger.

- sammy87

TT is not available and Skinner is one concussion away from his career being over.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:21 PM ET
TT is not available and Skinner is one concussion away from his career being over.
- Feds91Stammer


Thanks Brind'Amour!
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 5 @ 4:21 PM ET
I agree
- Feds91Stammer

As long as its a sign and trade, I say do it. It expends a lot of assets but I think Pacioretty on the long term over Brassard who will 100% walk after next season makes it worth it.

Not looking forward to the 3C circus next offseason though.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:28 PM ET
Not sure how unpopular of an opinion this will end up being but I think:

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Pacioretty-Malkin-Kessel
Rust-Sheahan-Sprong
Hagelin-Cullen/Bleuger-ZAR

Is a better lineup than:

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Hagelin-Malkin-Kessel
Rust-Brassard-Sprong
Simon-Sheahan-ZAR

- Victoro311


That second line would be (frank)ing fun to watch.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 4:30 PM ET
So does that Twitter account if they think JR is giving up the farm for Patches. Maybe that type of deal would happen at the trade deadline, but why give up all of our assets before the year even starts?
- 123Kid


I wouldn't consider that deal the farm. The 1st is whatever, Simon is whatever, the 2nd is whatever, and Brassard... well, I like the idea of having Brass as 3C playing with Kessel, but I think Sheahan is a perfectly capable 3C and if Brass is going to walk, and we get a signed Pacioretty out of it, I'd rather have that... but if it's Brass for 1 year vs. Pacioretty for 1 year.. I think I'd rather keep Brassard.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 5 @ 4:31 PM ET
Duclair to CBJ
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 5 @ 4:42 PM ET
TT is not available and Skinner is one concussion away from his career being over.
- Feds91Stammer


Every player is one concussion away from career being over.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 5 @ 4:47 PM ET
I think Duclair is cooked, but for $650 I'd take that gamble.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 5 @ 4:50 PM ET
Duclair to CBJ
- Feds91Stammer


AA re-signed for 2 years @$3M
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 5 @ 4:54 PM ET
AA re-signed for 2 years @$3M
- YouMeAndDupuis9

beat me to it
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
Every player is one concussion away from career being over.
- MattStrat

Skinner has history though.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 5 @ 5:03 PM ET
Skinner has history though.
- Feds91Stammer


Oh I know he does and that people with a history are more susceptible to them and more severe symptoms. I just mean that any player is one very bad hit to the head away from hanging them up. Hell, you and I could have our careers end due a massive hit to the head.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 5 @ 5:17 PM ET
Oh I know he does and that people with a history are more susceptible to them and more severe symptoms. I just mean that any player is one very bad hit to the head away from hanging them up. Hell, you and I could have our careers end due a massive hit to the head.
- MattStrat

Who said I have a career?
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