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Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jul 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
Don Brennan


@SunDoniB
30m30 minutes ago


A source who has a great batting average says he feels "very comfortable" with a source that tells him Karlsson will be traded to the #TBLightning
Stay tuned. #senators

- Lilroot9



Yost just said he's heard the same.
SABRES 89
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 5 @ 10:23 AM ET
Who said it?

What did they say?

Why is everyone so down on Maroon. I'll be honest, I don't know much about him other than looking at his numbers.

- Cup Crazy '07

Wouldn't mind him not a bad player, people don't want Maroon but they want Duclair.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
Now they’re talking about Jason zucker who I really think is going to be the Target for the winger
Shadman306
Joined: 06.11.2015

Jul 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
Don Brennan


@SunDoniB
30m30 minutes ago


A source who has a great batting average says he feels "very comfortable" with a source that tells him Karlsson will be traded to the #TBLightning
Stay tuned. #senators

- Lilroot9


This type of thing might be a prime opportunity to pry some assets from the lightning once they put another 11M on the books in EK

I know he plays RW, but what does it take to get Kucherov out of Tampa, they will have no way of affording him if EK signs
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:32 AM ET
This type of thing might be a prime opportunity to pry some assets from the lightning once they put another 11M on the books in EK
- Shadman306


I’d take Killorn or Johnson off their hands. In terms of Maroon as long as it’s short term I wouldn’t mind him either. He could fill that “tom Wilson” role for us.

Sheary-Eichel-Reinhart
Maroon-Mitts-Thompson
Berglund-Erod-Okposo
Wilson-Sobotka-Pominville

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:33 AM ET
I’d take Killorn or Johnson off their hands. In terms of Maroon as long as it’s short term I wouldn’t mind him either. He could fill that “tom Wilson” role for us.

Sheary-Eichel-Reinhart
Maroon-Mitts-Thompson
Berglund-Erod-Okposo
Wilson-Sobotka-Pominville

- Pegullaville



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Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 5 @ 10:34 AM ET
This type of thing might be a prime opportunity to pry some assets from the lightning once they put another 11M on the books in EK

I know he plays RW, but what does it take to get Kucherov out of Tampa, they will have no way of affording him if EK signs

- Shadman306


He will be very expensive (trade and cap wise).

TB will try to keep him if they can and the no tax on income is huge for take home money for a player. Could see him staying at a lower cap hit, to complete that team.

Karlsson and Hedman is just silly though.

Since Karlsson ~$11m wont hit til next year, they are not forced to trade until deadline or draft next year.
Shadman306
Joined: 06.11.2015

Jul 5 @ 10:36 AM ET
He will be very expensive (trade and cap wise).

TB will try to keep him if they can and the no tax on income is huge for take home money for a player. Could see him staying at a lower cap hit, to complete that team.

Karlsson and Hedman is just silly though.

Since Karlsson ~$11m wont hit til next year, they are not forced to trade until deadline or draft next year.

- Lilroot9


Yea, pipe dream. But imagine Eichel and Kucherov
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 5 @ 10:40 AM ET
Same thing as if JT signed with TB. If Karlsson gets traded to TB need to pounce on a favorable cap trade for Palat, Johnson or Killorn. They have to give up someone/2 of them.

Johnson has full NTC, i think Palat has a 20 team list, and Killorn has nothing yet. Although I could be misreading that.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 5 @ 10:42 AM ET
This type of thing might be a prime opportunity to pry some assets from the lightning once they put another 11M on the books in EK

I know he plays RW, but what does it take to get Kucherov out of Tampa, they will have no way of affording him if EK signs

- Shadman306


0 chance kucherov is traded
gerbe75pts
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Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:43 AM ET
Wouldn't mind him not a bad player, people don't want Maroon but they want Duclair.
- SABRES 89


Don't trust maroon he will be another Beleskey bad contract
buffalokb
Joined: 02.24.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:43 AM ET
I would be calling Arizona to converse about Dvorak or Perlini. They are deep with LWs with the addition of Galch. They are still young and no slam dunk but the reward could be a lot bigger and cheaper than a guy like Skinner.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 5 @ 10:47 AM ET
Don't trust maroon he will be another Beleskey bad contract
- gerbe75pts


That’s why if we were to sign maroon, to cover our backs the term would be 2-3 years max. Heck even throwing him a one year $6M deal wouldn’t even hurt. We have the cap space.
Stripes77
Referee
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 5 @ 10:51 AM ET
Wouldn't mind him not a bad player, people don't want Maroon but they want Duclair.
- SABRES 89



Maroon is 30

Duclair is 22

Big difference why people want Duclair
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 5 @ 10:51 AM ET
Same thing as if JT signed with TB. If Karlsson gets traded to TB need to pounce on a favorable cap trade for Palat, Johnson or Killorn. They have to give up someone/2 of them.

Johnson has full NTC, i think Palat has a 20 team list, and Killorn has nothing yet. Although I could be misreading that.

- robz228



Ottawa will be taking salary back though for sure if this deal happens
gerbe75pts
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Jul 5 @ 10:52 AM ET
I would be calling Arizona to converse about Dvorak or Perlini. They are deep with LWs with the addition of Galch. They are still young and no slam dunk but the reward could be a lot bigger and cheaper than a guy like Skinner.
- buffalokb


I like this
gerbe75pts
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Jul 5 @ 10:53 AM ET
Maroon is 30

Duclair is 22

Big difference why people want Duclair

- Stripes77


And will likely only cost you a million when Patrick maroon is asking for 4.5-5
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 5 @ 10:55 AM ET
Ottawa will be taking salary back though for sure if this deal happens
- Stripes77


Why would Ottawa be taking back salary? They are saying Ryan is not included. Karlsson is $6.5.

They will ask for picks and prospects, but at least one would be Sergachev (~$1m cap), so they don't need to take salary back to make that work.
SABRES 89
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Jul 5 @ 10:58 AM ET
Maroon is 30

Duclair is 22

Big difference why people want Duclair

- Stripes77

We have 3-4 " Duclair's" I don't care how old he is, he's played on 4 teams, he stinks.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 5 @ 10:59 AM ET
Why would Ottawa be taking back salary? They are saying Ryan is not included. Karlsson is $6.5.

They will ask for picks and prospects, but at least one would be Sergachev (~$1m cap), so they don't need to take salary back to make that work.

- Lilroot9



The cap floor is $58.8 million

Take away Karlsson's $6.5 million that puts them at $55 million

Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 5 @ 11:02 AM ET
The cap floor is $58.8 million

Take away Karlsson's $6.5 million that puts them at $55 million

- Stripes77


Right and they have Stone looking for some coin (RFA).

And a mil or two return (young entry level players) will help get there for sure.

I hear you, but they will be fine.
gerbe75pts
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Jul 5 @ 11:04 AM ET
You have to love that EK puts the Karlsson to Tampa like he broke it lol
gerbe75pts
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Jul 5 @ 11:06 AM ET
Karlsson deserve to go to Tampa and win a cup guys been through a lot

Respect .
SABRES 89
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Jul 5 @ 11:06 AM ET
People say we can't afford this player or it will hurt us cap wise in the future funny, Tampa can do it.
SABRES 89
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Jul 5 @ 11:08 AM ET
Karlsson deserve to go to Tampa and win a cup guys been through a lot

Respect .

- gerbe75pts

F Him, what's he been through? the Sens were a good team up until a couple years now . Yea I feel real sorry for him.
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