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Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jul 4 @ 11:55 PM ET
So tell us what the other juicy one was?

- boonerbuck


I shan't kiss and tell, someone might have had a melt down though....
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 5 @ 12:02 AM ET
as a paying customer, am I not entitled to an opinion? In my opinion, since he has taken the position as president, he has contradicted himself, with opposite decision making actions, at Q+A's (summit), Radio Interviews, Media Interviews. Either he has some say in some of the awful decision making this franchise has made, or he doesn't, and in that case, why is he there?
- Codes1087

As a paying costumer or not a paying costumer, you have the right to your opinion, but...in my opinion you are just bashing Linden based on an opinion and you have not an ounce of insight into who Trevor Linden is or what his roles and responsibilities entail.
I like this site, I like most of the posters, I like a lot of the conversations and bantering back and forth everyone seems to partake in. Although all this unwarranted personal attacks on specific people is a bit deflating. Seriously, Benning and his hair, the way he speaks, dim Jim references, and Linden only good for sunglasses commercials, riding a bike. The guy is self made, same with Benning, they have both achieved more than 95% of most people in life.

As a paying customer for the entertainment that is provided by a private owner, sure complain about the product, but I don’t understand mocking a persons looks or speech or successes in life.

Not pointing fingers at you Codes, just making a disappointing observation with a lot of posts lately, and if 2 people do it next day it’s 6, day after 20 and so on.
BobBot
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jul 5 @ 12:05 AM ET
I agree, I don’t buy it either but look at the latest post on the Hughes thread at HF
- Nucker101


if its the picture im thinking of (behind them both on the bench?), then its the camera angle making them look more even than reality
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:06 AM ET
As a paying costumer or not a paying costumer, you have the right to your opinion, but...in my opinion you are just bashing Linden based on an opinion and you have not an ounce of insight into who Trevor Linden is or what his roles and responsibilities entail.
I like this site, I like most of the posters, I like a lot of the conversations and bantering back and forth everyone seems to partake in. Although all this unwarranted personal attacks on specific people is a bit deflating. Seriously, Benning and his hair, the way he speaks, dim Jim references, and Linden only good for sunglasses commercials, riding a bike. The guy is self made, same with Benning, they have both achieved more than 95% of most people in life.

As a paying customer for the entertainment that is provided by a private owner, sure complain about the product, but I don’t understand mocking a persons looks or speech or successes in life.

Not pointing fingers at you Codes, just making a disappointing observation with a lot of posts lately, and if 2 people do it next day it’s 6, day after 20 and so on.

- Makita


My gripe with linden has never been personal, nor do i make fun of bennings physical appearance. I get your dissapointment, but i have tried to back up my dislike for his work with, what i thought, was fact based points. He is an athlete, and obviously was a heck of a hockey player, i just dont like how he runs a professional sports team as president.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jul 5 @ 12:14 AM ET
if its the picture im thinking of (behind them both on the bench?), then its the camera angle making them look more even than reality
- BobBot


Unless there's some sort of metric/exchange rate in effect, I'm very confident that Hughes is not six feet. From what I saw in Denmark (judging from how he looked on the ice, I didn't talk to him face to face), I think 5'10" is generous.

I am going to the game on Thursday. Hope to have more on this burning issue then!


CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:15 AM ET
As a paying costumer or not a paying costumer, you have the right to your opinion, but...in my opinion you are just bashing Linden based on an opinion and you have not an ounce of insight into who Trevor Linden is or what his roles and responsibilities entail.
I like this site, I like most of the posters, I like a lot of the conversations and bantering back and forth everyone seems to partake in. Although all this unwarranted personal attacks on specific people is a bit deflating. Seriously, Benning and his hair, the way he speaks, dim Jim references, and Linden only good for sunglasses commercials, riding a bike. The guy is self made, same with Benning, they have both achieved more than 95% of most people in life.

As a paying customer for the entertainment that is provided by a private owner, sure complain about the product, but I don’t understand mocking a persons looks or speech or successes in life.

Not pointing fingers at you Codes, just making a disappointing observation with a lot of posts lately, and if 2 people do it next day it’s 6, day after 20 and so on.

- Makita

I don’t like the personal attacks either.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:17 AM ET
I don’t like the personal attacks either.
- CanuckDon


I actually havent seen anyone on here personally attack either of them. Mind you, i have only been back for a few days
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:21 AM ET
I actually havent seen anyone on here personally attack either of them. Mind you, i have only been back for a few days
- Codes1087

People constantly attack Bennings IQ and appearance. I’m sure he is a reasonably intelligent dude or he wouldn’t have his position. Lots of people struggle with public speaking
Edit. I guess it’s difficult because it’s a message board and you can’t tell somebody’s intent. I call Neem an idiot daily but I don’t think he is actually stupid lol. We just don’t agree. If I thought he wasn’t intelligent I wouldn’t criticize him. Don’t want to sound like a hypocrite 😳
Greg7705
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jul 5 @ 12:23 AM ET
As a paying costumer or not a paying costumer, you have the right to your opinion, but...in my opinion you are just bashing Linden based on an opinion and you have not an ounce of insight into who Trevor Linden is or what his roles and responsibilities entail.
I like this site, I like most of the posters, I like a lot of the conversations and bantering back and forth everyone seems to partake in. Although all this unwarranted personal attacks on specific people is a bit deflating. Seriously, Benning and his hair, the way he speaks, dim Jim references, and Linden only good for sunglasses commercials, riding a bike. The guy is self made, same with Benning, they have both achieved more than 95% of most people in life.

As a paying customer for the entertainment that is provided by a private owner, sure complain about the product, but I don’t understand mocking a persons looks or speech or successes in life.

Not pointing fingers at you Codes, just making a disappointing observation with a lot of posts lately, and if 2 people do it next day it’s 6, day after 20 and so on.

- Makita



SPOT ON 👌
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 5 @ 12:25 AM ET
So everyone is doing some investigating.


Apparently Tyler Soy is a legit 6 foot tall player and Hughes apparently looks just as tall as him in development camp...


So if that’s true, was Hughes purposely trying to tabk his draft stock to avoid MTL/OTT horror shows? Was he trying to get drafted close to home in Detroit or Chicago?

His stock 100% goes up if he measured 6’ foot at the combine


Pure speculation since everyone is just eyeballing his height lol

- Nucker101


I bounced that idea myself a week ago or less. Only speculation but I think he's that kind of player. Why I want him signed before camp as well. I think he's the kind of kid who is playing chess all the way. Using the negative talk to fall between the cracks to a more desirable place. I'm still not sold that Vancouver was one of those teams either.

I don't think he's 6' but I do think he's at least 5'10" possibly my height, 5'11". He seemed like he was avoiding any argument against all these reports of 5'7" to be honest. It didn't seem to ruffle his ego which I think he has no shortage of. He seemed coy talking about it the other day as well. Very sheepish. Even mentioned making the critics work for him. So the speculation has a little support.

When the rumour came out about him not having good interviews, I felt this supported the idea but who knows if that was true as well. I do sense Hughes is the kind of guy who will go after what he sees as the future he wants. Just have to make sure that is the Canucks and get him signed. It's not a training camp decision like people keep suggestion with the wait and see approach.... there's no wait til after camp. There's no camp without a contract. He's good enough for Utica imo. He'd rather pro than college... sign him.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 5 @ 12:26 AM ET
That’s probably pure bs. Hughes looks small next to Woo who is 6ft. Soy is lying about his height?
- CanuckDon


That's funny because it looked to me that Hughes was at most 2 inches shorter than Woo.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:28 AM ET
People constantly attack Bennings IQ and appearance. I’m sure he is a reasonably intelligent dude or he wouldn’t have his position. Lots of people struggle with public speaking
- CanuckDon


Maybe some of this stuff happened when i wasnt here cause i havent seen anything personal about either of them. To me, management, like players, like coaches, shouldnt be exempt from professional criticism. There is no need ever to personally attack them though.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:30 AM ET
That's funny because it looked to me that Hughes was at most 2 inches shorter than Woo.
- boonerbuck


Im not sure if it makes him look smaller or taller, but ive watched Soy for 4 years on the royals and he always looked small and lanky to me. He was always skinny while playing in Victoria.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 5 @ 12:34 AM ET
People constantly attack Bennings IQ and appearance. I’m sure he is a reasonably intelligent dude or he wouldn’t have his position. Lots of people struggle with public speaking
Edit. I guess it’s difficult because it’s a message board and you can’t tell somebody’s intent. I call Neem an idiot daily but I don’t think he is actually stupid lol. We just don’t agree. If I thought he wasn’t intelligent I wouldn’t criticize him. Don’t want to sound like a hypocrite 😳

- CanuckDon


It's funny when people in hockey that have no love for Benning go out of their way to correct the theme that Benning is a bumbling idiot. They even mention how he's soft spoken and not very articulate but they say make no mistake, he's intelligent person who's been in hockey his entire life and has a lot of respect from his peers. Burke was the most recent.


boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 5 @ 12:35 AM ET
Maybe some of this stuff happened when i wasnt here cause i havent seen anything personal about either of them. To me, management, like players, like coaches, shouldnt be exempt from professional criticism. There is no need ever to personally attack them though.
- Codes1087


Look left and you'll see it all day every day.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 5 @ 12:36 AM ET
As a paying costumer or not a paying costumer, you have the right to your opinion, but...in my opinion you are just bashing Linden based on an opinion and you have not an ounce of insight into who Trevor Linden is or what his roles and responsibilities entail.
I like this site, I like most of the posters, I like a lot of the conversations and bantering back and forth everyone seems to partake in. Although all this unwarranted personal attacks on specific people is a bit deflating. Seriously, Benning and his hair, the way he speaks, dim Jim references, and Linden only good for sunglasses commercials, riding a bike. The guy is self made, same with Benning, they have both achieved more than 95% of most people in life.

As a paying customer for the entertainment that is provided by a private owner, sure complain about the product, but I don’t understand mocking a persons looks or speech or successes in life.

Not pointing fingers at you Codes, just making a disappointing observation with a lot of posts lately, and if 2 people do it next day it’s 6, day after 20 and so on.

- Makita

I'm tired of the contradictions and saying one thing and doing another. I think this is a fair place to voice one's frustrations. I was happy with the draft and pissed with free agency. I'm not thrilled with Linden or Benning.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 5 @ 12:37 AM ET
As a paying costumer or not a paying costumer, you have the right to your opinion, but...in my opinion you are just bashing Linden based on an opinion and you have not an ounce of insight into who Trevor Linden is or what his roles and responsibilities entail.
I like this site, I like most of the posters, I like a lot of the conversations and bantering back and forth everyone seems to partake in. Although all this unwarranted personal attacks on specific people is a bit deflating. Seriously, Benning and his hair, the way he speaks, dim Jim references, and Linden only good for sunglasses commercials, riding a bike. The guy is self made, same with Benning, they have both achieved more than 95% of most people in life.

As a paying customer for the entertainment that is provided by a private owner, sure complain about the product, but I don’t understand mocking a persons looks or speech or successes in life.

Not pointing fingers at you Codes, just making a disappointing observation with a lot of posts lately, and if 2 people do it next day it’s 6, day after 20 and so on.

- Makita

What about the Stetcher sucks rants?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 5 @ 12:38 AM ET
My gripe with linden has never been personal, nor do i make fun of bennings physical appearance. I get your dissapointment, but i have tried to back up my dislike for his work with, what i thought, was fact based points. He is an athlete, and obviously was a heck of a hockey player, i just dont like how he runs a professional sports team as president.
- Codes1087

Again Codes, it wasn’t pointed at you, just used your post to make my point.

BTW, Linden is far more than an athlete, he is a successful business man, he was president of the NHLPA for 8 years, professional hockey player for 19 years, he is great at PR, he is the president of a NHL club worth hundreds of millions. To me as a professional mariner and a risk assessment analyst, his resume screams successful.

People may not know his role and what his responsibilities are, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have any.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 5 @ 12:41 AM ET
What about the Stetcher sucks rants?
- Retinalz

Stecher as a hockey player “skill wise” sucks, I have no idea if he looks funny, talks funny, has funny hair, chews gum with his mouth open...etc.

He is a number 8-10 type defender.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:41 AM ET
I'm tired of the contradictions and saying one thing and doing another. I think this is a fair place to voice one's frustrations. I was happy with the draft and pissed with free agency. I'm not thrilled with Linden or Benning.
- Marwood


^this

I think the majority of us in here are non biased enough to acknowledge both accomplishments and flaws of the entire organization. I think Benning has done more good than bad when it comes to this team. I think Green has done the same. I think weisbrod and judd have been excellent. I will save my opinion of linden because it will just be a vicious cycle.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jul 5 @ 12:41 AM ET
Unless there's some sort of metric/exchange rate in effect, I'm very confident that Hughes is not six feet. From what I saw in Denmark (judging from how he looked on the ice, I didn't talk to him face to face), I think 5'10" is generous.

I am going to the game on Thursday. Hope to have more on this burning issue then!

- Carol Schram


See ya there!

It's amazing. I have 2 extra tix, and nobody wants them. Guess I'm just a hockey junky.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:43 AM ET
That's funny because it looked to me that Hughes was at most 2 inches shorter than Woo.
- boonerbuck

Well Hughes is listed at 5’10 and Woo is 6’0. So yes
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:43 AM ET
Maybe some of this stuff happened when i wasnt here cause i havent seen anything personal about either of them. To me, management, like players, like coaches, shouldnt be exempt from professional criticism. There is no need ever to personally attack them though.
- Codes1087

Agreed
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 5 @ 12:43 AM ET
It's funny when people in hockey that have no love for Benning go out of their way to correct the theme that Benning is a bumbling idiot. They even mention how he's soft spoken and not very articulate but they say make no mistake, he's intelligent person who's been in hockey his entire life and has a lot of respect from his peers. Burke was the most recent.
- boonerbuck

And I trust these people over the idiots who assume he is dumb because if how he speaks. since when is that a sign of intelligence? I know a couple people who have speech issues and are smarter than most posters here(one is a computer programmer that could make a better site than this in his sleep)
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 5 @ 12:44 AM ET
Again Codes, it wasn’t pointed at you, just used your post to make my point.

BTW, Linden is far more than an athlete, he is a successful business man, he was president of the NHLPA for 8 years, professional hockey player for 19 years, he is great at PR, he is the president of a NHL club worth hundreds of millions. To me as a professional mariner and a risk assessment analyst, his resume screams successful.

People may not know his role and what his responsibilities are, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have any.

- Makita


I know you weren't pointing directly at me, and i appreciate that. No room for pettiness in making fun of personal appearance, speech, etc. Like i said, i havent seen it, but i understand your frustration as a mod if it was a regular occurance not long ago. Linden is a lot richer than me, and it didnt happen by mistake. In the end, benning is a GM, linden is a president of a million dollar franchise, and we are all armchair GMs canuck fans.
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