Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Agree but bridge contracts for Hanifin & Lindholm probably unlikely. If they offer it then over a barrel whether they like it or not sending a very poor message. Its ill advised imo - Nighthawk
Lindholm is coming off a bridge so fair enough, he's worth between 4.25-4.75mil - he's a career .50PPg, .03pts up from Baertschi
Hanifin is coming off ELC so he hasnt really earned poop yet - there's no reason he couldnt be bridged, i cant see him making more than Brodie's 4.6mil |
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Codes1087
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When it comes down to TL as a president i can see a change if he isn’t driving the bus very well. Cap contol & revenues & his hirings below him dictate his fate. He can be replaced easy enough. By whom idk & that contradicts me asking for names. As for a GM or Coach i abstain til its a problem or a better option comes around. None are available at this time imho. So its stay the course & let the dust settle. - Nighthawk
TL has, and always will be, a strict PR move. He came in when things were looking the most grim, had the fans in absolute joy because he was a fan favorite at one point. What credentials or schooling or history did he have prior to taking the president role within the Canucks. I can't wait till he is gone. |
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Location: CA Joined: 02.02.2009
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TL has, and always will be, a strict PR move. He came in when things were looking the most grim, had the fans in absolute joy because he was a fan favorite at one point. What credentials or schooling or history did he have prior to taking the president role within the Canucks. I can't wait till he is gone. - Codes1087
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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TL has, and always will be, a strict PR move. He came in when things were looking the most grim, had the fans in absolute joy because he was a fan favorite at one point. What credentials or schooling or history did he have prior to taking the president role within the Canucks. I can't wait till he is gone. - Codes1087
He has his name on several successful businesses that other people run for him... that must count |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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He has his name on several successful businesses that other people run for him... that must count - Retinalz
He’s used his popularity in Vancouver to profit, I can’t blame him.
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neem55
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Hanifin & Lindholm yet to sign let alone cap space troubles. Trades are needed & they both needed to sign or flipped if not. - Nighthawk
They have 12 mil to sign Hanafin and lindholm. Thats a non-issue. Very improved team. Monahan 1c, Backlund 2c and Lindholm 3c Ryan 4c is the best in the west IMO. top 5 center corps in the league |
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neem55
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He has his name on several successful businesses that other people run for him... that must count - Retinalz
That's just smart and leveraging of social capital. |
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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TL has, and always will be, a strict PR move. He came in when things were looking the most grim, had the fans in absolute joy because he was a fan favorite at one point. What credentials or schooling or history did he have prior to taking the president role within the Canucks. I can't wait till he is gone. - Codes1087
What, exactly, is the role of President for an NHL club? Seems to vary from team to team, with some being more hands-on and others being more PR. Linden is clearly the PR move, but based on his fame in Vancouver and time/credibility in the NHL and NHLPA, I'd say he's a pretty good fit for the job Aquilini wanted him for. |
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Codes1087
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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What, exactly, is the role of President for an NHL club? Seems to vary from team to team, with some being more hands-on and others being more PR. Linden is clearly the PR move, but based on his fame in Vancouver and time/credibility in the NHL and NHLPA, I'd say he's a pretty good fit for the job Aquilini wanted him for. - NewYorkNuck
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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TL has, and always will be, a strict PR move. He came in when things were looking the most grim, had the fans in absolute joy because he was a fan favorite at one point. What credentials or schooling or history did he have prior to taking the president role within the Canucks. I can't wait till he is gone. - Codes1087
President of the NHLPA
A business man in the fitness industry
A consumate teammate
A leader on & off the ice by example.
Some criteria
What did Neely have? Lowe?
2 examples of boom or bust.
A president to me is less important & all about his hirings & delegating. So the Q is how TL has done on those? Passable
Still a President is the least important position to me other than a rep for the owner & his go between from business to the hockey side of a team. AGM’s are on his plate & for us its always been scheduling that is his main issue. |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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TL has, and always will be, a strict PR move. He came in when things were looking the most grim, had the fans in absolute joy because he was a fan favorite at one point. What credentials or schooling or history did he have prior to taking the president role within the Canucks. I can't wait till he is gone. - Codes1087
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Codes1087
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President if the NHLPA
A business man in the fitness industry
A consumate teammate
A leader on & off the ice by example.
Some criteria
What did Neely have? Lowe?
2 examples of boom or bust.
A president to me is less important & all about his hirings & delegating. So the Q is how TL has done on those? Passable
Still a President is the least important position to me other than a rep for the owner & his go between from business to the hockey side of a team. AGM’s are on his plate & for us its always been scheduling that is his main issue. - Nighthawk
Having a franchise use your name doesn't make you a business man
Having appeared in sunglass and bike ads doesn't make you a business man
He is an athlete, I won't take that away from him, and WAS a great teammate and hockey player, but the president of Canucks Hockey, I am not sure anyone here knows EXACTLY what he does in day-to-day operations for the Canucks.
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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Having a franchise use your name doesn't make you a business man
Having appeared in sunglass and bike ads doesn't make you a business man
He is an athlete, I won't take that away from him, and WAS a great teammate and hockey player, but the president of Canucks Hockey, I am not sure anyone here knows EXACTLY what he does in day-to-day operations for the Canucks. - Codes1087
I think you missed the first mention where he was the President of the NHLPA. IDK if that is true, but if it is he obv knows a little bit about being in charge. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Having a franchise use your name doesn't make you a business man
Having appeared in sunglass and bike ads doesn't make you a business man
He is an athlete, I won't take that away from him, and WAS a great teammate and hockey player, but the president of Canucks Hockey, I am not sure anyone here knows EXACTLY what he does in day-to-day operations for the Canucks. - Codes1087
Marketing is Marketing |
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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Having a franchise use your name doesn't make you a business man
Having appeared in sunglass and bike ads doesn't make you a business man
He is an athlete, I won't take that away from him, and WAS a great teammate and hockey player, but the president of Canucks Hockey, I am not sure anyone here knows EXACTLY what he does in day-to-day operations for the Canucks. - Codes1087
Then why are you chastising him, if you don't know what he actually does? Maybe he does a lot behind the scenes that's beneficial for the organization – or maybe he bikes in the gym with some sunglasses. Not here to defend him, just pretty lazy to fully form an opinion without all the facts self-admittedly. |
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Codes1087
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Then why are you chastising him, if you don't know what he actually does? Maybe he does a lot behind the scenes that's beneficial for the organization – or maybe he bikes in the gym with some sunglasses. Not here to defend him, just pretty lazy to fully form an opinion without all the facts self-admittedly. - NewYorkNuck
as a paying customer, am I not entitled to an opinion? In my opinion, since he has taken the position as president, he has contradicted himself, with opposite decision making actions, at Q+A's (summit), Radio Interviews, Media Interviews. Either he has some say in some of the awful decision making this franchise has made, or he doesn't, and in that case, why is he there? |
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TL has, and always will be, a strict PR move. He came in when things were looking the most grim, had the fans in absolute joy because he was a fan favorite at one point. What credentials or schooling or history did he have prior to taking the president role within the Canucks. I can't wait till he is gone. - Codes1087
You don't think he learned anything about the operations side of the game over the course of his 19 year career and 8 years as president of the players association? Wasn't Linden/Shanahan the catalysts in helping negotiate the end of the 2005 lockout?
I'm not a fan of Linden either but its not like he went in blind. Sakic and yzerman went directly into front office roles with zero experience months after retiring. Robitaille was the pres of a USHL team 3 months after he retired. Shanahan 2 months retired, into NHL VP role. Neely - 3 years as assistant VP. Snow - zero experience. Sather was a coach for 2 years then directly into GM. John Davidson was a (frank)ing color commentator before he got his role. |
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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I think you missed the first mention where he was the President of the NHLPA. IDK if that is true, but if it is he obv knows a little bit about being in charge. - Retinalz
It is true, he was the president for 8 years. Wiki, but whatevs:
In 1998, he was elected president of the National Hockey League Players' Association (NHLPA), a position he held for eight years. |
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Codes1087
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That's just smart and leveraging of social capital. - neem55
Steve Nash would have a thing or two to say about that lol |
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Codes1087
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You don't think he learned anything about the operations side of the game over the course of his 19 year career and 8 years as president of the players association? Wasn't Linden/Shanahan the catalysts in helping negotiate the end of the 2005 lockout?
I'm not a fan of Linden either but its not like he went in blind. Sakic and yzerman went directly into front office roles with zero experience months after retiring. Robitaille was the pres of a USHL team 3 months after he retired. Shanahan 2 months retired, into NHL VP role. Neely - 3 years as assistant VP. Snow - zero experience. Sather was a coach for 2 years then directly into GM. John Davidson was a (frank)ing color commentator before he got his role. - Brooks_Light
Personally, no I don't. I don't think years with an organization, or years in a league, give you the upper hand on a position that you either have no schooling, history, or much knowledge of. I don't care if a person is black/white/Asian/gay/straight/male/female/old/young, if you are qualified for a job, it just should be awarded to the person most fit, and I can't say that I feel Trevor Linden, is the most fit for being president of a hockey team, based off of X amount of years as a player, and 8 years in a job, with relative leadership skills being applied. Just my opinion though, we can change the subject as I see some people disagree. |
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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as a paying customer, am I not entitled to an opinion? In my opinion, since he has taken the position as president, he has contradicted himself, with opposite decision making actions, at Q+A's (summit), Radio Interviews, Media Interviews. Either he has some say in some of the awful decision making this franchise has made, or he doesn't, and in that case, why is he there? - Codes1087
Of course you're entitled to an opinion, not taking that away from you, especially on July 4th
However, opinions are like bumholes, yadda yadda. An uniformed opinion is just ignorance. Again, not defending him/all the decisions of this team – I think a lot of those fall on JB and the scouts – but to answer your last question with your previous post, he's mainly there for PR! To take heat, answer questions, be the intermediary. People aren't going to hate on him as hard because he is Captain Canuck.
That being said, I also think his duties more tie into the franchise as a whole: hiring, affiliates, background operations. Not too much I can complain about, aside from continuation of JB, but that's mainly JB's own doing. |
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Codes1087
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Of course you're entitled to an opinion, not taking that away from you, especially on July 4th
However, opinions are like bumholes, yadda yadda. An uniformed opinion is just ignorance. Again, not defending him/all the decisions of this team – I think a lot of those fall on JB and the scouts – but to answer your last question with your previous post, he's mainly there for PR! To take heat, answer questions, be the intermediary. People aren't going to hate on him as hard because he is Captain Canuck.
That being said, I also think his duties more tie into the franchise as a whole: hiring, affiliates, background operations. Not too much I can complain about, aside from continuation of JB, but that's mainly JB's own doing. - NewYorkNuck
lol ok, well to your point, if we are evaluating him, in the position of president, strictly to take heat, and how he handles PR, how would you grade him? |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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as a paying customer, am I not entitled to an opinion? In my opinion, since he has taken the position as president, he has contradicted himself, with opposite decision making actions, at Q+A's (summit), Radio Interviews, Media Interviews. Either he has some say in some of the awful decision making this franchise has made, or he doesn't, and in that case, why is he there? - Codes1087
This. |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Personally, no I don't. I don't think years with an organization, or years in a league, give you the upper hand on a position that you either have no schooling, history, or much knowledge of. I don't care if a person is black/white/Asian/gay/straight/male/female/old/young, if you are qualified for a job, it just should be awarded to the person most fit, and I can't say that I feel Trevor Linden, is the most fit for being president of a hockey team, based off of X amount of years as a player, and 8 years in a job, with relative leadership skills being applied. Just my opinion though, we can change the subject as I see some people disagree. - Codes1087
No need.
I think Benning & Linden are idiots. In way over their heads. |
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