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rawwdogg88
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.18.2013

Jul 2 @ 3:16 PM ET
The answer for our LHD is Michael Kapla
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jul 2 @ 4:06 PM ET
The answer for our LHD is Michael Kapla
- rawwdogg88


Doomed.

redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 2 @ 4:31 PM ET
Doomed.
- Queenie_5_hole

If we don't sign anyone or trade, Greene, Butcher, Muelller could develop.
Greene actually would be the worry spot.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Jul 2 @ 4:55 PM ET
Gibbons to the Ducks. First one way deal for him.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Jul 2 @ 5:01 PM ET
So now we get to judge the offseason with some degree of certainty of how the rest will go.

Prognosis: Not bad: we didn't make a stupid trade or a stupid signing. Lou has often done the latter of the two.

Often the teams that do little capitalize on existing chemistry and start well out the gate. I'd like to see this team get CdH and Maroon.

Shero didn't pull the trigger on any deals, but looking at what some players have gone for, I don't blame him. Prices are too high.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Jul 2 @ 5:35 PM ET
So now we get to judge the offseason with some degree of certainty of how the rest will go.

Prognosis: Not bad: we didn't make a stupid trade or a stupid signing. Lou has often done the latter of the two.

Often the teams that do little capitalize on existing chemistry and start well out the gate. I'd like to see this team get CdH and Maroon.

Shero didn't pull the trigger on any deals, but looking at what some players have gone for, I don't blame him. Prices are too high.

- archromat


I would say that the bottom 6 guys that were signed were bad, not all but they stand out.

Stastny, Reider and JVR was good value. JVR 5 years is really good IMO, the money doesn't matter that much at that term.

With the Bing Devils sucking last year, I don't understand not signing some AHL guys, like Lorito, Terry, Agostino, Macdonald, Wotherspoon. Try to help Blackwood actually be good by having a good team in front of him. Or guys that can at least score in the AHL. Hopefully they bring back Appleby.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 2 @ 5:37 PM ET
Gibbons to the Ducks. First one way deal for him.
- willschulme


So who do we have left for the forwards from last season?

Hall Nico palms
Mojo zacha wood
Bratt zajac Coleman
Boyle noesen ?

Not doing line up but just looking who we have, who am I missing?

Who could be ready in the system? McLeod? Anderson?
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 2 @ 5:48 PM ET
Man everything Lou is doing for the Islanders right now reeks of post-Parise-pre-Shero NJ. I feel bad for Islanders fans.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 2 @ 5:50 PM ET
Man everything Lou is doing for the Islanders right now reeks of post-Parise-pre-Shero NJ. I feel bad for Islanders fans.
- MannySilvers


Can we trade zajac for barzal?
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 2 @ 6:09 PM ET
Man everything Lou is doing for the Islanders right now reeks of post-Parise-pre-Shero NJ. I feel bad for Islanders fans.
- MannySilvers

They need to meet the floor. They're going to suck and just need contracts to exist. They've drafted well lately and just need some stop-gap kind of players.
K-dizzle
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 2 @ 6:49 PM ET
So OTT is letting teams talk to Karlsson about an extension.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 2 @ 6:54 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/devil...t-camp-roster/c-299393376

Development camp roster

Sucks that fire and ice has gone down hill, nothing about the draft, nothing like it was with TG
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 2 @ 7:41 PM ET
So OTT is letting teams talk to Karlsson about an extension.
- K-dizzle


We don't have enough to even get ottowa interested
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 2 @ 9:45 PM ET
We don't have enough to even get ottowa interested
- dmarsden2988


Not sure that's true. I have a feeling the return for Karlsson will be underwhelming, especially if Ryan is going with him.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 2 @ 9:51 PM ET
Not sure that's true. I have a feeling the return for Karlsson will be underwhelming, especially if Ryan is going with him.
- MannySilvers


What could we offer that couldn't be beat? Severson 1st and McLeod?
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:06 PM ET
Not sure that's true. I have a feeling the return for Karlsson will be underwhelming, especially if Ryan is going with him.
- MannySilvers


Well apparently the offer on the table from the Knights for taking both is two 1sts and Theodore+. Read it on twitter earlier today
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Jul 2 @ 10:58 PM ET
Well apparently the offer on the table from the Knights for taking both is two 1sts and Theodore+. Read it on twitter earlier today
- vlongo4419


Doubt anyone will beat that offer. I'm guessing Dorion will want more "material" prospects rather than futures, though.

Two first round picks excites people about as much as vegetables.
DownwiththeDevil
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 2 @ 11:21 PM ET
I don't see how we can't take a run at Karlsson. He is a elite talent and the right age for the Devs. So the question is what can we offer & what is off limits?

Personnel I would think are untouchable are Hall, Nico, Palms, Vatanen, Butcher, & Schneider. Butcher and Schneider may be available, less so Schneider because finding a true #1 goalie these days is almost impossible. I would hate to give up Butcher, but if push comes to shove you may have to make the call.

In order to get Karlsson, I wouldn't be surprised if we went with a package of (this is a complete guess as I am not a GM lol):
- Severson
- Jojo
- Butcher
- McLeod
- 2019 1st Rd. Pick
- 2019 2nd Rd. Pick
- 2020 1st Rd. Pick
- 2020 3rd Rd. Pick

From Ottawa:
- Karlsson
- Ryan
- 2019 3rd Rd. Pick
- 2019 6th Rd. Pick

Maybe this all for nothing and just a Devils fan being a dreamer and trying to find the best possible package we can offer to land Karlsson.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jul 2 @ 11:21 PM ET
Doubt anyone will beat that offer. I'm guessing Dorion will want more "material" prospects rather than futures, though.

Two first round picks excites people about as much as vegetables.

- archromat


Yeah pretty much, especially us. We don't really have enough to compete with other teams in a trade of this caliber unfortunately
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:23 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/devils/news/devils-announce-2018-development-camp-roster/c-299393376

Development camp roster

Sucks that fire and ice has gone down hill, nothing about the draft, nothing like it was with TG

- dmarsden2988


depressing. that was a daily read for me.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:25 PM ET
They need to meet the floor. They're going to suck and just need contracts to exist. They've drafted well lately and just need some stop-gap kind of players.
- Pomegrant


so.. Zajac would be a perfect fit! We'll have Boyle take all our faceoffs.. or bring back Dean McAmmond!
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Jul 2 @ 11:58 PM ET
I don't see how we can't take a run at Karlsson. He is a elite talent and the right age for the Devs. So the question is what can we offer & what is off limits?

Personnel I would think are untouchable are Hall, Nico, Palms, Vatanen, Butcher, & Schneider. Butcher and Schneider may be available, less so Schneider because finding a true #1 goalie these days is almost impossible. I would hate to give up Butcher, but if push comes to shove you may have to make the call.

In order to get Karlsson, I wouldn't be surprised if we went with a package of (this is a complete guess as I am not a GM lol):
- Severson
- Jojo
- Butcher
- McLeod
- 2019 1st Rd. Pick
- 2019 2nd Rd. Pick
- 2020 1st Rd. Pick
- 2020 3rd Rd. Pick

From Ottawa:
- Karlsson
- Ryan
- 2019 3rd Rd. Pick
- 2019 6th Rd. Pick

Maybe this all for nothing and just a Devils fan being a dreamer and trying to find the best possible package we can offer to land Karlsson.

- DownwiththeDevil


Devils overpayment IMO. And by quite a margin.

That Ryan contract is worth Ottawa giving up a 1st and 2nd to get rid of. We do not have any crap contracts to give back to them: most of our players are worth nearly what they're being paid, thankfully.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 3 @ 3:07 AM ET
I don't see how we can't take a run at Karlsson. He is a elite talent and the right age for the Devs. So the question is what can we offer & what is off limits?

Personnel I would think are untouchable are Hall, Nico, Palms, Vatanen, Butcher, & Schneider. Butcher and Schneider may be available, less so Schneider because finding a true #1 goalie these days is almost impossible. I would hate to give up Butcher, but if push comes to shove you may have to make the call.

In order to get Karlsson, I wouldn't be surprised if we went with a package of (this is a complete guess as I am not a GM lol):
- Severson
- Jojo
- Butcher
- McLeod
- 2019 1st Rd. Pick
- 2019 2nd Rd. Pick
- 2020 1st Rd. Pick
- 2020 3rd Rd. Pick

From Ottawa:
- Karlsson
- Ryan
- 2019 3rd Rd. Pick
- 2019 6th Rd. Pick

Maybe this all for nothing and just a Devils fan being a dreamer and trying to find the best possible package we can offer to land Karlsson.

- DownwiththeDevil


call me crazy, but I feel that's too much, and I'm not willing to give the farm for this guy. Yes, he's great.. but is he going to win us a Cup? probably not. It's not like we're dumping the franchise for McDavid. Karlsson is awesome, but he's still an offensive dman and not a center. We're still missing another big piece or 2 up front. While it's great we developed guys last year, getting a top 10 pick would've been more useful going forward. idk. we gotta hit it big in free agency, trades, or find another "Elias" without having a top 15 pick..
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 3 @ 4:30 AM ET
I don't see how we can't take a run at Karlsson. He is a elite talent and the right age for the Devs. So the question is what can we offer & what is off limits?

Personnel I would think are untouchable are Hall, Nico, Palms, Vatanen, Butcher, & Schneider. Butcher and Schneider may be available, less so Schneider because finding a true #1 goalie these days is almost impossible. I would hate to give up Butcher, but if push comes to shove you may have to make the call.

In order to get Karlsson, I wouldn't be surprised if we went with a package of (this is a complete guess as I am not a GM lol):
- Severson
- Jojo
- Butcher
- McLeod
- 2019 1st Rd. Pick
- 2019 2nd Rd. Pick
- 2020 1st Rd. Pick
- 2020 3rd Rd. Pick

From Ottawa:
- Karlsson
- Ryan
- 2019 3rd Rd. Pick
- 2019 6th Rd. Pick

Maybe this all for nothing and just a Devils fan being a dreamer and trying to find the best possible package we can offer to land Karlsson.

- DownwiththeDevil

If that was the cost, serios pass. If you have to take on that Ryan contract the ask should be a lot less. Especially if Karlsson is a free agent in a year.
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 3 @ 8:54 AM ET
Taking Ryan's contract back seriously lessens the trade return for Ottawa. For NJ it'd start with something like Severson, Bratt, a 1st, and maybe an additional prospect. I just feel like whenever there is a big star player like this who everyone in the league knows wants to get traded, the return is always underwhelming, and that's NOT including Ottawa sending a terrible terrible contract in Ryan the other way. Giving Ottawa two first round picks plus two great young players/prospects is the price without Ryan being involved IMO.
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