Anyone want McDonough for 7 years?
- Aussiepenguin

That's a contract that will suck sooner than later.

Grabner to Arizona

If JT signs with Toronto (10-15million range) they would be moving pieces out next year when they have to pay Auston Matthews who will also get in the 10-15 million range. It makes you wonder if he will ask out of Toronto if they bump him to the 2nd line (not everyone is ok with it). Which is good for us short term(since they wont be able to sign good defensemen which is their biggest team need and will tie up a lot of money in their top 2 centers). Long term it may be like a Crosby Malkin duo but I see them losing a bunch of players due to raises. I hope he signs with SJ though
- 123Kid

There really isn't a big difference usage minutes and PP wise for the first or second line in Toronto.

All this said I think the biggest winners in free agency are the teams that do nothing, or nothing big. Watch the Tavares announcement come out the second I post this. Lol

That's a contract that will suck sooner than later.
- madmike71

Full no trade too

Also heard Jack Johnson took less money to sign with the Pens
- 123Kid

Look at those FA prices today

I’m very happy with JJ at 3.25. Feels like a steal

Shut up, sound like a jealous 10yr old.

Go Vegas Go
- Garnie

loser leaf fan has to come here to harass people

Look at those FA prices today

I’m very happy with JJ at 3.25. Feels like a steal
- RoloTahmasee

Something he's very familiar with........he's felt that sting before.

I generally like JT.... But announce a decision already. I feel like I'm waiting for my wife to finally make a decision when ordering dinner.
- madmike71

Hahah I suffer from the same problem

Grabner to Arizona
- kfinl170

3m+. Wasn't someone talking about getting him for 1m??

If JT signs with Toronto (10-15million range) they would be moving pieces out next year when they have to pay Auston Matthews who will also get in the 10-15 million range. It makes you wonder if he will ask out of Toronto if they bump him to the 2nd line (not everyone is ok with it). Which is good for us short term(since they wont be able to sign good defensemen which is their biggest team need and will tie up a lot of money in their top 2 centers). Long term it may be like a Crosby Malkin duo but I see them losing a bunch of players due to raises. I hope he signs with SJ though
- 123Kid

he didn't like his ice time being diminished as it was... how will he feel if JT takes more of it away...
Crabcock had to go to AZ to have a talk with him or something like this didn't he... chemistry is important... Geno and Sid work cuz Geno doesn't have an ego about the playing time and doesn't cause trouble...

Is Jack Johnson your new whipping boy? He is coming to a great team with elite players around him. He has never played on a team with talent like this. You need to quit using all the numbers

Is Jack Johnson your new whipping boy? He is coming to a great team with elite players around him. He has never played on a team with talent like this. You need to quit using all the numbers
- acpappas

I hope that guy lives up to the potential he showed when getting drafted...

[quote=Aussiepenguin]

Ya. Green was going to come here for 3 million

Grabner for 1.5

Cole for 2.5

Hopefully this is a reality check for the so called GMs on here

The analytics group must be going absolutely fooking bonkers today haha

Beagle 4 years 3m per
Roussel 4 years 3.25m per
Vanek 1 year 3m
Ryan 3 years 3.2m per
Reaves 2 years 2.775m per
Johnson 5 years 3.25m per
Grabner 3 years 3.35m per
Polak 1 year 1.3m

Take it for what it is... And if you look at the most respected insiders most of those guys had 3-6 offers on the table. Even John chayka is in on a couple of those!

(frank). Spain on their way out of the World Cup.

Allez les bleus.

[quote=RoloTahmasee]

Now let's sign JT for 1.8 million and call it a day

I'll agree with that however they have huge holes on D. I'm not worried about the Pens being a top contender at all.
- madmike71

I like your confidence because I too believe it to be true... Also like seeing semi to fully postive posts.

JJ isn't gonna make or break this team, either was moving Sheary to make room.

I don't think JJ can be any worse than he has anywhere else. I think with the Pens system and personnel, theres a chance we see a slight improvement in his stats... If only just in production.

Some people are way too hung up on analytics and team stats. This blogger is one of them. Are NHL GM's not capable of logging on to the internet and looking up some stats, reading a spreadsheet or a chart?

A 5 year deal though for johnson is ridiculous. No need to sign a 31 year old healthy scratch for 5 years.

A 5 year deal though for johnson is ridiculous. No need to sign a 31 year old healthy scratch for 5 years.
- drummer829

Cole was a healthy scratch and got 4.25

There really isn't a big difference usage minutes and PP wise for the first or second line in Toronto.

All this said I think the biggest winners in free agency are the teams that do nothing, or nothing big. Watch the Tavares announcement come out the second I post this. Lol
- leafsfann

Tavares will sign 10-11mil, Matthews is not at that level yet...8-8.5 tops.

A 5 year deal though for johnson is ridiculous. No need to sign a 31 year old healthy scratch for 5 years.
- drummer829

There'll be cap hit free CBA buyout periods before then...

And can you imagine Crosby or Malkin telling the pens he’s not coming back. Isles just lost their franchise player and are even more of a dumpster fire than before

Cole was a healthy scratch and got 4.25
- jchst22

Excellent point.

I like your confidence because I too believe it to be true... Also like seeing semi to fully postive posts.

JJ isn't gonna make or break this team, either was moving Sheary to make room.

I don't think JJ can be any worse than he has anywhere else. I think with the Pens system and personnel, theres a chance we see a slight improvement in his stats... If only just in production.
- MattStrat

Even though this is a bad example because he was younger, but look at Cole. He played for STL and he didn't have as many hits he didn't have as many blocked shots and he was a whipping boy because he turned the puck over and STL had a pretty good cast around him. He came here and his blocked shots and hits went up significantly. He also was pretty solid on the breakout. So I agree that I think personnel and even a change for JJ might be good for us. He already dishes out hits and blocks shots well. For 3 million in this free agent market I think JR did well