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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:14 PM ET
2 years and 1 mil*
- NorthNuck



That buys you a Granlund not a Beagle sorry
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:15 PM ET
That buys you a Granlund not a Beagle sorry
- VANTEL

Rieder actually


And one less year let’s you upgrade to Grabner
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:17 PM ET
Unless Sutter is moved it doesn’t make sense. Canucks needed a C with some offensive skill not another Sutter.
- Nucker101


If Benning doesn't move Sutter by TDL then he is a dumbass . No argument there same as Tanev MDZ and hopefully Edler for 3 months .
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 1 @ 3:19 PM ET
That buys you a Granlund not a Beagle sorry
- VANTEL

I would rather have a Granlund who is 25 can potentially score 20 goals and can play offensive or defensive roles than Beagle who is a 4th line PKer
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:19 PM ET
Rieder actually


And one less year let’s you upgrade to Grabner

- Nucker101



Is that a big improvement?

I thought we went yesterday from Rieder playing with EP to Gagner playing with EP with no hesitation or complaint.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 1 @ 3:19 PM ET
Let's hope that JT wants the leafs to get him Gagner to play on his wing.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:20 PM ET
Dahliwal:
Archibald signing with #Canucks will get done, they have agreed to terms. #Canucks
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:20 PM ET
Remember that year that Beagle got more minutes than Ovechkin in the playoffs? Yeah, the Caps totally lost that series.

He's a decent NHL centre, good on the draws, good at killing penalties. He's like having Malhotra. It's more than likely he sucks in 4 years, but we weren't getting players to come otherwise. And the guy just played a big role in winning the Cup. Not crazy about the deal, but he's infinitely better than Gaunce.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:21 PM ET
I would rather have a Granlund who is 25 can potentially score 20 goals and can play offensive or defensive roles than Beagle who is a 4th line PKer
- NorthNuck


All I can tell you is it will be long four years for you. I don't have words of comfort for you.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:21 PM ET
If Benning doesn't move Sutter by TDL then he is a dumbass . No argument there same as Tanev MDZ and hopefully Edler for 3 months .
- VANTEL


Benning on 650 sounds like he wants Sutter back to 2LC


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:22 PM ET
Remember that year that Beagle got more minutes than Ovechkin in the playoffs? Yeah, the Caps totally lost that series.

He's a decent NHL centre, good on the draws, good at killing penalties. He's like having Malhotra. It's more than likely he sucks in 4 years, but we weren't getting players to come otherwise. And the guy just played a big role in winning the Cup. Not crazy about the deal, but he's infinitely better than Gaunce.

- micah555


He’s a valuable player(don’t think anyone here has said that Beagle sucks) but bumping Sutter up to 2LC kills some of that value since Sutter isn’t cut out to be used as an offensive player and doesn’t produce enough in easier minutes


I’m cool with tanking for Hughes, I just don’t want EP stuck with Sutter on 5v5 and the PP
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:25 PM ET
Benning on 650 sounds like he wants Sutter back to 2LC



- Nucker101



I honestly don't know what to tell you guys

Do I say NOW NOW or Suck it up Buttercup?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:27 PM ET
He’s a valuable player(don’t think anyone here has said that Beagle sucks) but bumping Sutter up to 2LC kills some of that value since Sutter isn’t cut out to be used as an offensive player and doesn’t produce enough in easier minutes


I’m cool with tanking for Hughes, I just don’t want EP stuck with Sutter

- Nucker101



What if your second line is the line that plays against other teams best players like last year

Granlund Sutter Roussel
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:27 PM ET
I honestly don't know what to tell you guys

Do I say NOW NOW or Suck it up Buttercup?

- VANTEL



Unless you feel the need to defend Benning, you don’t have to say anything
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 1 @ 3:28 PM ET
nighthawk, you're late for work...
- Brooks_Light


Supply me the roster & on it lol
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:28 PM ET
What if your second line is the line that plays against other teams best players like last year

Granlund Sutter Roussel

- VANTEL



Sure

Where’s Beagle then? 4th liner playing against other 4th liners?

That’s what I’m questioning
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:29 PM ET
Supply me the roster & on it lol
- Nighthawk

The current roster


Beagle/Roussel/Schaller in the lineup


Cut whichever forwards you wish to make room
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jul 1 @ 3:29 PM ET
Hey guys,

Interesting morning.

New blog is up on the signings and what it means going forward.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...oussel-Schaller/194/93732
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:36 PM ET
I mean if Green wants to get really creative and line match hard, he can roll with 2 lines that get pretty much all the Dzone starts and 2 that get sheltered heavily like the Sedins


Offense:

Lipstick/Goldy - Horvat - Boeser
Baertschi - Gagner - Petersson


Defense:

Eriksson - Sutter - Granlund
Roussel - Beagle - Schaller


That’s one way to make sense of this roster
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 1 @ 3:38 PM ET
Someone post a lineup


Where’s nighthawk???

- Nucker101


Supply me the roster lol
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:38 PM ET
Unless you feel the need to defend Benning, you don’t have to say anything
- Nucker101


What fun would that be?

The flip side of the coin is if you don't hate the contracts why complain about them.

Benning is getting the brunt of this and it was the coach that requested these players and they got signed off by the owner and president also .

You forget I am not a Benning fan I would rather someone else , but give blame where blame is due.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:39 PM ET
Benning on 650 sounds like he wants Sutter back to 2LC



- Nucker101


Well. Nobody else can fill that role as of today.

I think that’s why people are a bit sour on Beagle.
Most see Sutter as a 3rd C.
We needed. 2C.
We got a 3-4C.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:46 PM ET
Well. Nobody else can fill that role as of today.

I think that’s why people are a bit sour on Beagle.
Most see Sutter as a 3rd C.
We needed. 2C.
We got a 3-4C.

- dbot


What free agent out there would be classified as a 2C besides Stastny ? Please don't say Bozak I don't want to laugh at you.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 1 @ 3:50 PM ET
They shoulda gave him a TDL ultimatum

To lose an asset that valuable for nothing when you weren’t even in a playoff spot at the TDL is just horrible

- Nucker101



Only horrible?
Cue Lefty & switch Benning for Snow
Now all those ppl who made such a huge noise about Hamhuis & Vrbata look silly.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:55 PM ET
What free agent out there would be classified as a 2C besides Stastny ? Please don't say Bozak I don't want to laugh at you.
- VANTEL


Bozak is another Gagner. I'd say none of the above(including Beagle).


Just move Gagner to C, start Gaudette off slow or in the AHL and maybe give him a chance in that spot after the TDL if he's having a good start to the season.


Would have been fine with just Schaller and Roussel. Rieder or Grabner if they wanted a 3rd body
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