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vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:24 PM ET
Kypreos speculating Tavares wait is for trade of rights from NYI so another team can sign him for 8...

EDIT: per twitter...
“An SPC with a term of greater than seven (7) years, provided, however, that a Club may sign a Player to an SPC with a term of up to eight (8) years if that Player was on such Club's Reserve List as of and since the most recent Trade Deadline”, he was an Islander at that point

- Marlowe


Think if I'm Lou, and I have a lot of good will on my side with the fan base right now, I'd tell him to go F himself, and not give him 8 unless I am getting an offer that's just too good to pass up.


vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:27 PM ET
"Tavares Signing a One Year Deal....and then 8 in January." -EK lol
- SoftServe


Not a terrible strategy, I heard one of the guys on Sirius NHL channel, Boomer I think, mention that Toronto could sign him to a one year 15 mil deal, then in January he could sign an 8 year. Would actually give him more on his 8 year deal, and the 15 mil deal now would give him an extra few mil.

If I'm one of the teams going after him, and wanted him badly enough, its a good strategy.

Not sure if a handshake on this is a violation of the CBA though, but if it Toronto, I'm sure Bettman gives them a pass.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 4:34 PM ET
Not a terrible strategy, I heard one of the guys on Sirius NHL channel, Boomer I think, mention that Toronto could sign him to a one year 15 mil deal, then in January he could sign an 8 year. Would actually give him more on his 8 year deal, and the 15 mil deal now would give him an extra few mil.

If I'm one of the teams going after him, and wanted him badly enough, its a good strategy.

Not sure if a handshake on this is a violation of the CBA though, but if it Toronto, I'm sure Bettman gives them a pass.

- vabeachbear

Contract is only a 1 year deal then. Get a career ending injury and you don’t get the other 8. Not sure I take that chance.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:36 PM ET
Not a terrible strategy, I heard one of the guys on Sirius NHL channel, Boomer I think, mention that Toronto could sign him to a one year 15 mil deal, then in January he could sign an 8 year. Would actually give him more on his 8 year deal, and the 15 mil deal now would give him an extra few mil.

If I'm one of the teams going after him, and wanted him badly enough, its a good strategy.

Not sure if a handshake on this is a violation of the CBA though, but if it Toronto, I'm sure Bettman gives them a pass.

- vabeachbear


Good strategy - unless he blows out a knee or gets the worst concussion ever in December.

Not likely, maybe but still....

Gambling with $80MM or so.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 30 @ 4:38 PM ET
Dehaan -3 shoulder surgeries, big upcoming contract, time in coach's doghouse, present club letting him go

Why are we even talking about him? Hopefully Bowman has dismissed these thoughts too.

- 67hawks

Isles aren't letting him go - they're one of the teams in the mix for him because they want him to stay but he's a UFA so he can talk to anyone. They don't know their money situation until Tavares is done.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:39 PM ET
Isles aren't letting him go - they're one of the teams in the mix for him because they want him to stay but he's a UFA so he can talk to anyone. They don't know their money situation until Tavares is done.
- L_B_R


Time for Tavares tp poop or....

The league has business to take care of.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:02 PM ET
Didn’t EK say Tavares was going to decide by 5? Well!?!!?!! Were waiting!!! (Insert Judge Smales gif here)
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:08 PM ET
Didn’t EK say Tavares was going to decide by 5? Well!?!!?!! Were waiting!!! (Insert Judge Smales gif here)
- Marlowe

Great reference
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:22 PM ET
Great reference
- ObeseOprah

I know you’re probably not talking about EK...
HamiltonHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.13.2015

Jun 30 @ 5:35 PM ET
Can't wait for the Wingles signing
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:37 PM ET
Can't wait for the Wingles signing
- HamiltonHawk

Wingels
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 5:43 PM ET
Holy (frank) nothing yet? Seriously ? Wtf Tavares?
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 30 @ 5:44 PM ET
Zawaski

A little update.

I’m told Q wants a defensive defenseman and “he’s probably going to get what he wants.”

All quiet on the Hossa front for now.

- mrpaulish


Can’t say I disagree one bit with Q here. The real story behind this though is:

Conflict between SB and Q. Again. And yes, counting on McD to manage this makes it even worse.

Coach tells you what he needs, GM finds guys Daddy says they need, Q goes ballistic working with what they give him, and McD is going on three years allowing this conflict to continue.

Can you imagine what a cluster it must be to do a trade with Chicago if they behave like the Three Stooges all the time before they make decisions.....?

Going to be another terrible year. So, at least dont screw it up this year by being less terrible at the end and miss a higher draft slot.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 5:48 PM ET
Can’t say I disagree one bit with Q here. The real story behind this though is:

Conflict between SB and Q. Again. And yes, counting on McD to manage this makes it even worse.

Coach tells you what he needs, GM finds guys Daddy says they need, Q goes ballistic working with what they give him, and McD is going on three years allowing this conflict to continue.

Can you imagine what a cluster it must be to do a trade with Chicago if they behave like the Three Stooges all the time before they make decisions.....?

- Return of the Roar


I really dont think its like that. How could they function? I think Bowman hets a lot of imput from Q. I also believe Bowman is very stubborn and wants to appear to “win” every deal. Bowman doesnt appear to have a whole lot if risk to his game. Which isnt terrible i mean look at the Canadians. Bergey x box trades all the time and they are (frank)in ruined.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 30 @ 5:55 PM ET
I really dont think its like that. How could they function? I think Bowman hets a lot of imput from Q. I also believe Bowman is very stubborn and wants to appear to “win” every deal. Bowman doesnt appear to have a whole lot if risk to his game. Which isnt terrible i mean look at the Canadians. Bergey x box trades all the time and they are (frank)in ruined.
- mrpaulish


Precisely my point, as the proof is in the lack of results since 2015. Its been three consecutive years of decline to the bottom of the division from winning a Cup.

They aren’t functioning.

Since McD doesn’t know what to do but make videos, sell bobbleheads, and shut down inquiring journalists, he hires “hockey consultants”. Do you think the consultants will point any blame at the guy who hired them?

Just a mess.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 6:16 PM ET
Lazarus- Team Mouth Piece- earlier

As @ByScottPowers has noted, James van Riemsdyk is a long shot for the Blackhawks. They haven't ruled him out, nor has he ruled them out, but the competition is fierce and the price could be too steep.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jun 30 @ 6:19 PM ET
I really dont think its like that. How could they function? I think Bowman hets a lot of imput from Q. I also believe Bowman is very stubborn and wants to appear to “win” every deal. Bowman doesnt appear to have a whole lot if risk to his game. Which isnt terrible i mean look at the Canadians. Bergey x box trades all the time and they are (frank)in ruined.
- mrpaulish


I feel like everyone continually overlooks the fact that on Bowman's side, he has to find willing FAs and willing trade partners. It's not as easy as it seems to be assumed here to go out and just take what you want from whichever team you want, particularly up until this year when the money really wasn't there. Yeah, we have examples of trades going the other way we don't like, but are there actual examples of players you (the collective you) think he should have been able to get, no question, and couldn't? Would we know?
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 6:46 PM ET
Greg Brady:

Islanders know they’re out.....
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 30 @ 7:00 PM ET
Greg Brady:

Islanders know they’re out.....

- mrpaulish


The Greg Brady???
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 7:07 PM ET
The Greg Brady???
- vabeachbear

Toronto AM drive guy (not the character from the 70s sit com). Also tweeted this:
Assuming, not reporting. But it’s sourced. A player on that team is “almost certain he’s gone”. Players haven’t been speaking about this, even to close friends & family. Now they are. “He wouldn’t jerk the other teams around until midnight if he was staying”. Exactly.
https://twitter.com/gregb.../1013191048212824065?s=21

And:
Here’s another educated guess - Tavares & agent telling all teams who don’t get him all at once, or as quickly as they can. They’ve kept this airtight & professional, & that’s how to do it. It’s brutal he can’t tell his teammates first, but no possible way to accomplish that.
https://twitter.com/gregb.../1013194379849109504?s=21
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:18 PM ET
The Greg Brady???
- vabeachbear



😎
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jun 30 @ 7:21 PM ET
The Greg Brady???
- vabeachbear

IE: Johnny Bravo
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 7:23 PM ET
IE: Johnny Bravo
- powerenforcer

Just look at how well the jacket fits!
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 7:33 PM ET
Just look at how well the jacket fits!
- Marlowe


C'mon people - you are aging yourselves with these joke!!!!

dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 7:34 PM ET
Just look at how well the jacket fits!
- Marlowe


And everyone knows it's always Marcia Marcia Marcia!!!!!!
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