lol wut... We are talking about a player's corsi that just won a cup.
- Codes1087

Yes but Beagle if he signs with us is not about Corsi nor a cup run. Plug

Corsi is bottom of my list 11/10x

Sutter has more offensive upside, so unless they're bringing Beagle in only to trade him off at this TDL I would hope they play them together so Granlund is spared having to play defense all the time.

If they trade Sutter and replace him with Beagle we will only get worse
- NorthNuck

I think most here would take Begale + late 1st(or 2nd + prospect) over Sutter


I'm still sceptical that they move Sutter though.

Hey Codes good to see you back, but....stick the corsi where the sun don't shine
- Makita

I think most here would take Begale + late 1st(or 2nd + prospect) over Sutter though


I'm still sceptical that they move Sutter though.
- Nucker101

As am I. Theoretically that return for Sutter would be a good deal for us but who knows what the landscape will be this year, he very well may not fetch that much

probably worth a it to take a flyer on him if you guys can dump tanev on buffalo
- Tumbleweed

We like dumping on TO

I'd split up Boeser and Horvat actually, I didn't see a lot of chemistry between them. Boeser needs someone to feed him the puck and Bo is a powerforward. Lipstick or Baertschi aren't gifted enough playmakers for that to be a legit 1st line.
- Nucker101

Goldobin

As am I. Theoretically that return for Sutter would be a good deal for us but who knows what the landscape will be this year, he very well may not fetch that much
- NorthNuck

The one thing I'll say is that guys like Beagle and Sutter are actually good vets to have around while rebuilding(cap hits aside). They take a lot of the hard minutes and free up easier minutes for the rest of the lineup, which ideally would be filled with youth.

This is why Gagner is so annoying, he needs to be spoonfed PP time and easy 5v5 mins to produce, those minutes should all be going to younger players.

LE is annyoing too but at least he can play as a checker on the Sutter line.


Plus good teams will always have interest in guys like Sutter/Beagle at the TDL since they're easy to plug into your bottom 6 and coaches always beg their GM's for guys like them since they're safe players.

Goldobin
- VANTEL

Reinhart

The one thing I'll say is that guys like Beagle and Sutter are good to have around while rebuilding. They take a lot of the hard minutes and free up easier minutes for the rest of the lineup, which ideally would be filled with youth.

This is why Gagner is so annoying, he needs to be spoonfed PP time and easy 5v5 mins to produce, those minutes should all be going to younger players.

LE is annyoing too but he can play as a checker on the Sutter line.


Plus good teams will always have interest in guys like Sutter/Beagle at the TDL since they're easy to plug into your bottom 6 and coaches always beg their GM's for guys like them since they're safe players.
- Nucker101

Beagle-Sutter-Eriksson

The line with the worst +/- in the NHL next year? Fine by me if the kids get to score lots

Beagle-Sutter-Eriksson

The line with the worst +/- in the NHL next year?
- NorthNuck

As ugly/overpaid as that line sounds, I don't think they'd be a bad checking unit by our standards.

Beagle-Sutter-Eriksson

The line with the worst +/- in the NHL next year? Fine by me if the kids get to score lots
- NorthNuck

Working on the assumption JT is a Leaf

Nylander might be needed to move for cap space due to the contract he is expecting. Traded in the east to any team with cap space is less likely & definitely not an inter-division deal. Hence goes out west to a team with cap space. Why trade Willy? For need & a cup push. What? Top 2D. Who? Tanev fits the bill but who else is available & at what cost & cap hit?

The above could mean Willie for Tanev+ or he stays put til next offseason. Another angle if Willie is traded is JVR could resign. Cap space going forward is what any trade hinges on if JT is a Leaf.

As ugly/overpaid as that line sounds, I don't think they'd be a bad checking unit by our standards.
- Nucker101

Canucks standards and league standards are two entirely different things

I think most here would take Begale + late 1st(or 2nd + prospect) over Sutter


I'm still sceptical that they move Sutter though.
- Nucker101

I am too unless a real home run. C depth is our problem & league wide there are not enough to go around even for PO teams.

Working on the assumption JT is a Leaf

Nylander might be needed to move for cap space due to the contract he is expecting. Traded in the east to any team with cap space is less likely & definitely not an inter-division deal. Hence goes out west to a team with cap space. Why trade Willy? For need & a cup push. What? Top 2D. Who? Tanev fits the bill but who else is available & a what cost & cap hit?

The above could mean Willie for Tanev+ or he stays put til next offseason. Another angle if Willie is traded is JVR could resign. Cap space going forward is what any trade hinges on if JT is a Leaf.
- Nighthawk

It should Nylander, + for Tanev

Canucks standards and league standards are two entirely different things
- Codes1087

It should Nylander, + for Tanev
- pker2theend

If a cap dump & a needed roster spot.
Is that Martin?

it's not that simple.


A guy who scores 18 points making 1M is not more valuable than a guy who scores 65 points making 6M.
- Nucker101

Thats obvious. I guess I dont see a 6 mill cap hit as an anchor anymore. Maybe if he couldnt play in the league.

He had a down season. Lucic was much better in a different system.

If a cap dump & a needed roster spot.
Is that Martin?
- Nighthawk

Nylander, Martin, 1st, 2nd for Tanev and 7th

Thats obvious. I guess I dont see a 6 mill cap hit as an anchor anymore. Maybe if he couldnt play in the league.

He had a down season. Lucic was much better in a different system.
- manvanfan

I thought you were trolling. You’d honestly take Lucic’s contract over Beagle at 2.5M over 3 years?

I was realistically hoping they’d sign Rieder and Roussel instead

Thats obvious. I guess I dont see a 6 mill cap hit as an anchor anymore. Maybe if he couldnt play in the league.

He had a down season. Lucic was much better in a different system.
- manvanfan

Dear god.

I was realistically hoping they’d sign Rieder and Roussel instead
- Nucker101

Same

Willie/Martin for Tanev/Sven

Now before you all roast me...

Tanev fills a real need at a great price.
Sven comes cheap with a new contract.
Willie is the best player in the deal but next contract is a tough fit & Marner is no doubt much better to pay off.
Martin is a cap dump & easily replaced by internal talent.

Not so sure that gets it done but feel free to tweak the deal. Thx

I was realistically hoping they’d sign Rieder and Roussel instead
- Nucker101

I was hoping for one of Derek Ryan / Riley Nash (AAV and term permitting) / Rieder. Ultimately though, I would be just as happy if Jim kept his phone away and we just started taking calls on the Hossa's/Spezza's/Ennis's/etc contracts